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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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12-21-2004 08:15
If you retaliate with a push weapon, you open yourself up to being abuse reported. Arguing "well they shot me first" isn't going to save you. Your best bet is to IM a Linden and/or file an abuse report. Yes I know.  They should implement some way to make guns useless in certain areas or some kind of land option for it. I would be filing an abuse report 2 or 3 times a week if I did that. Thanks for your post though. _____________________
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Ferran Brodsky
Better living through rum
Join date: 3 Feb 2004
Posts: 821
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12-21-2004 08:27
You are assuming that everything that looks like a weapon in SL is actually a weapon, and everything that doesn't look like a weapon is not. You're going to pre-emptively blow away the guy with the AK-47 that just makes gun noises while the girl with the glow stick knocks you three sims over. Brilliant. So how are you enjoying SL, Mr. Rumsfeld? You cant even see the push weapon I carry. and beware people with floating titles. For a while I used to carry a tiny little tea rose that would smack ya up to 17 sims away, we spent hours testing it. The record is 17 sims away from Crimson to Linmatour. But since push weapons were patched to not be so nasty Ive taken up other methods... On my own land I just eject people.... no shield or offsetting animation can save them from that. |
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Adam Cooper
Just call me Uncle Adam..
Join date: 10 Oct 2004
Posts: 380
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12-21-2004 10:20
Blake......
I and in fact most of us can understand your frustration but you must try and realize what we are saying also. It's not what you are feeling that we sort of have a problem with, its how you are reacting to it. Do not fight fire with fire. There are far better ways to handle the situation than just playing there game here; listen to these fine folks sir as they do speak wisdom here. In fact, I can sum it up very nicely with this 'rough' quote..... "When you look long into the abyss, the abyss always looks back and when fighting monsters, one must make sure in the process NOT to become a monster." - Nizitchi (Sorry I do not have his name in front of me). _____________________
"Once while we were making love, a curious optical illusion occurred, and it almost looked as though she were moving." - Woody Allen.
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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12-21-2004 10:22
Blake...... I and in fact most of us can understand your frustration but you must try and realize what we are saying also. It's not what you are feeling that we sort of have a problem with, its how you are reacting to it. Do not fight fire with fire. There are far better ways to handle the situation than just playing there game here; listen to these fine folks sir as they do speak wisdom here. In fact, I can sum it up very nicely with this 'rough' quote..... "When you look long into the abyss, the abyss always looks back and when fighting monsters, one must make sure in the process NOT to become a monster." - Nizitchi (Sorry I do not have his name in front of me). You are correct. Who is the bigger fool, the fool..or the fool who follows him? _____________________
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Ryen Jade
This is a takeover!
Join date: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,329
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12-21-2004 10:35
Did they have the title [LLJK] by any chance? Because if so those are my home boyz u b trashin.
Edit: Robot suit eh? STOP DISSIN MY BROTHAS! _____________________
Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP!  Whats a twerp?  |
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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12-21-2004 10:40
You are correct. Who is the bigger fool, the fool..or the fool who follows him? http://www.kropserkel.com/horsehead.htm _____________________
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Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people ! |
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
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12-21-2004 10:50
Ah , I almost replied to this but dont want to be mistaken as being "ANGRY" again so ..pfft carry on.
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New Worlds new Adventures Formerly known as Jade Wolf my business name has now changed to Dragon Shadow. Im me in world for Locations of my apparrel Online Authorized Trademark Licensed Apparel http://www.cafepress.com/slvisions OR Visit The Website @ www.slvisions.com |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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12-21-2004 10:52
Ah , I almost replied to this but dont want to be mistaken as being "ANGRY" again so ..pfft carry on. Perception is a choice Shadow, please don't let the perceptions of a few exert control over your willingness to speak your mind. _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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12-21-2004 10:52
Blake...... I and in fact most of us can understand your frustration but you must try and realize what we are saying also. It's not what you are feeling that we sort of have a problem with, its how you are reacting to it. Do not fight fire with fire. There are far better ways to handle the situation than just playing there game here; listen to these fine folks sir as they do speak wisdom here. In fact, I can sum it up very nicely with this 'rough' quote..... "When you look long into the abyss, the abyss always looks back and when fighting monsters, one must make sure in the process NOT to become a monster." - Nizitchi (Sorry I do not have his name in front of me). Originally Posted by Adam Cooper I am very happy I put a smile on your face; especially seeing as you read it at work. Everyone needs to smile at work sometimes! The honor is to serve, and if I can make you smile, then my day has been a good and productive one. Thank you...... I swear though if I see one more poll done by Blake I am gonna just *puke* then make one of my OWN dealing with the experiance known simply as... Blake......... And Blake dude, you can keep your love bub as I don't love men (or boys as the case may be) save perhaps my own Father. I love woman, but if you wanna love men then go for it I say. Just make sure to keep your 'poll' to yourself and away from me or I'll cut it off right quick..... if I can find it that is......... DOH! "My mom was fair. You never knew if she was going to swing with her right or her left." - Herb Caen Your inflamatory remarks only show your ignorance. You imply the opposite of love (hate). You imply sexual orientation to love and condemn those that love. You do not comprehend what love is for you are only blinded by your false masculinity. You try to tempt me to lower myself to your your level. Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him? You put up a false reflection of manhood, and only reflect weakness. One that does not see and learn from others but accuses; one that does not have constructive insight is worthless. So such are the words you have written, so shall you be remembered. A good fight should be like small play..but played seriously. When the opponent expands I contract. When he contracts, I expand. And when there is opportunity, I do not hit; it hits all by itself. The growth of wisdom may be gauged exactly by the diminution of ill-temper.” LOLOLOL That actually gave me a good laugh. Sound's like you are reading from a script there. LOL It also sounds like I hit a nerve pretty good there. I am sorry if I hurt ya too much there Blakey, it's just that I can't stand Narcissist (Those who are totally in love with ones self) and you caught me at a bad time (My father is in the hospital again... might not make it) and I sort of reacted as I am quite worried, and not acted like I usually do. I am only human, but that is no excuse I know...... Lesson learned. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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12-21-2004 10:52
Ah , I almost replied to this but dont want to be mistaken as being "ANGRY" again so ..pfft carry on. What are you mad about Shadow?  |
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Ryen Jade
This is a takeover!
Join date: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,329
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12-21-2004 11:00
Ah , I almost replied to this but dont want to be mistaken as being "ANGRY" again so ..pfft carry on. Shadow, why are you so angry? Edit: Beaten like a bondage loving teen. _____________________
Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! Whats a twerp? |
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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12-21-2004 11:53
For a while I used to carry a tiny little tea rose that would smack ya up to 17 sims away, we spent hours testing it. The record is 17 sims away from Crimson to Linmatour. But since push weapons were patched to not be so nasty Ive taken up other methods... Tell me about it  My super trampoline used to throw you 10k meters into the air, now its around 1k on a good day _____________________
The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals.
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Lash Xevious
Gooberly
Join date: 8 May 2004
Posts: 1,348
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12-21-2004 12:11
Some days when I have nothing better to do, I feel like a stroll over to my neighboring club and lighting all the patrons asses there on fire. I feel it helps with the club's ambiance since they do proclaim it's "the hottest spot in SL." But I just know that once I walk in there with my glorious flamethrower, I will be lagged to death.
And, no, the weapons I use do not push people. They only make blood spurt out of their pixel flesh. It's so prettiful. _____________________
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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12-21-2004 12:13
And, no, the weapons I use do not push people. They only make blood spurt out of their pixel flesh. It's so prettiful. LOL, I won a 'most evil' contest last week in a club (I think Lestats) when I took out a flamethrower and torched everyone. _____________________
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
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12-21-2004 12:17
Actually Im not mad it was just pointed out that my words "Hurt" people so I am trying to be SLoliticaly correct and keep the ruckas down.
Can I coin that word as mine...SLolitically...LMAO _____________________
Everyone here is an adult. This ain't DisneyLand, and Mickey Mouse isn't going to swat you with a stick if you say "holy crapola."<Pathfinder Linden>
New Worlds new Adventures Formerly known as Jade Wolf my business name has now changed to Dragon Shadow. Im me in world for Locations of my apparrel Online Authorized Trademark Licensed Apparel http://www.cafepress.com/slvisions OR Visit The Website @ www.slvisions.com |
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Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
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12-21-2004 12:20
Tell me about it My super trampoline used to throw you 10k meters into the air, now its around 1k on a good day Sniff, I remember that Siggy remember that Night in Lusk when we put Libby in the shell with the trampoline script in the shell that she bounced back n forth so many times that the velocity she created threw her from Lusk to Jessie. Meanwhile Siggy was playing Stack in the Tube..  _____________________
Everyone here is an adult. This ain't DisneyLand, and Mickey Mouse isn't going to swat you with a stick if you say "holy crapola."<Pathfinder Linden>
New Worlds new Adventures Formerly known as Jade Wolf my business name has now changed to Dragon Shadow. Im me in world for Locations of my apparrel Online Authorized Trademark Licensed Apparel http://www.cafepress.com/slvisions OR Visit The Website @ www.slvisions.com |
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Sox Rampal
Slinky Vagabond
Join date: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 338
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12-21-2004 17:19
There's no way to stop it as far as I can see. We DO try, anyone who comes into our club armed is asked ONCE to put the weapon away before they are removed but by then it's often too late as they've shot up half your club.Then of course you ban them so they sit just off your land and fire into the club anyway,so you go put their name into your security system and it removes them from range and the next thing you know....you have a warning from Linden Labs
Griefing IS on the rise, we've had the same guy come back 4 days running and no amount of abuse reports from all the people in the club this moron has shot has made any difference.No kids in second life? maybe not a whole lot of adults with a mental age above 14 then. |
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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12-21-2004 17:54
...they give you a Yokozuna -- you give em a RoShamBo..
.... thats the chicago way... Siggy _____________________
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Einsman Schlegel
Disenchanted Fool
Join date: 11 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,461
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12-21-2004 19:21
Hmmm........ wonder if.. teens.. err.. nah... *rolls eyes* can't be..
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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
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12-22-2004 04:57
I endorse this product and/or service.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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12-22-2004 05:06
I endorse this product and/or service. What, you endorse shooting clubbers? Or endorse shooting them back and being a massive hypocrite? Or endorse shooting them back, being a massive hypocrite and then come whining about it in the forums? Or 'Other'? Clarify! (Btw, the usual way to clarify or further state your case is to just quote a dictionary definition of some semi related word in big, bold font. I suggest answering with a definition of 'endorse'. That'll clear the matter right up. However, if you don't want to do that, an unrelated quotation that you don't quite understand and neither fits the context nor furthers your argument will suffice. Failing that, you could always start a poll. Which must have an extremely ambiguous title and initial question, a biased set of options to choose from, and you must edit the first post repeatedly after people have started responding to it). Oh, and I didnt use a smiley once. Just drawing that to your attention so that you realise my motivation and intentions in posting. _____________________
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Arcadia Codesmith
Not a guest
Join date: 8 Dec 2004
Posts: 766
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12-22-2004 07:03
Griefing IS on the rise, we've had the same guy come back 4 days running and no amount of abuse reports from all the people in the club this moron has shot has made any difference.No kids in second life? maybe not a whole lot of adults with a mental age above 14 then. The response of many game developers to griefing (which is a problem in virtually ALL multiplayer games) is to code out the mechanisms that allow it. In-game support tends to be understaffed, underpaid, and all too often outsourced to some shop in Bangalore that doesn't understand the game's culture. Faced with an inability to enforce rules of conduct, companies opt instead to restrict players' ability to interact with each other. If reports of obvious griefing are being ignored (and forgive me, but that's hearsay at this point - we have no objective evidence), that points to enforcement issues. Those can be due to short-staffing, GM favoritism or bribery, a hands-off philosophy that players should resolve their own issues, or even a developer attitude that paid subscribers are a legitimate pool of lab rats for sociology experiments rather than customers expecting value for their investment. Whatever the cause, it tends not to get addressed until it shows a significant impact on revenues, at which point the live team goes into panic mode and starts coding solutions - which often curtail the freedom of players who are not intending or causing grief. The ideal solution is to invest in recruiting and retaining a professional customer support/GM staff. These are your front-line troops, and they should be pulling down at least as much as the devs, if not more. Enforcement demands judgement and interpretive skills you're not going to get from a minimum-wage flunky that you treat like a doormat. Unfortunately, I don't see the standards shifting any time soon. Count on spotty enforcement throughout the industry until somebody wises up. |
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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
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12-22-2004 09:20
Shooting clubbers.
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
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12-22-2004 09:40
Shadow,
<<Actually Im not mad it was just pointed out that my words "Hurt" people so I am trying to be SLoliticaly correct and keep the ruckas down.>> *looking in the opposite direction and whistling.*  _____________________
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1,606
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12-22-2004 09:57
What, you endorse shooting clubbers? If you call Griefers that come into Clubs shooting Clubbers, "Clubbers" I call them Griefers. *Scratches head* lol. _____________________
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