Second Life Forums Archive - I'll pay $100 USD for 16m2 of Tier Free Land

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

01-20-2005 14:10

Is there such a thing?

If there was, how much would you pay for it?

I think I might pay $100 USD to *LindenLabs* for 16 m2.

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Zuzi Martinez

goth dachshund

Join date: 4 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,860

01-20-2005 14:22

i'd pay approx. US$0 for it. what is that like 12 prims?

Alby Yellowknife

Sic Semper Tyrannis

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Posts: 1,148

01-20-2005 14:23

From: blaze Spinnaker

Is there such a thing?

If there was, how much would you pay for it?

I think I might pay $100 USD for 16 m2.

I just bought 16,800m2 of land for L$69,000 just the other day.. That'll run me about $75/mo ($900/yr)

Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,869

01-20-2005 14:24

tier free land is land you can afford on your base package

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Eggy Lippmann

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01-20-2005 14:25

Send me your $100 and I'll throw 16m2 of land allocation to a group of your choosing

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Rickard Roentgen

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01-20-2005 14:26

How big is your package?

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

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01-20-2005 14:28

Let me clarify in case it wasn't obvious, I'd pay linden labs $100 for 16 m2 of tier free land and the land should be fully resellable.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

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01-20-2005 14:30

you really thing 16m of land would be worth 100 just because it's not going to dock your tier?

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blaze Spinnaker

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01-20-2005 14:32

No, I think it would be worth a lot more than that. That's why I'm willing to pay $100 USD

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Lance LeFay

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Posts: 1,488

01-20-2005 14:36

Blaze, this is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

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01-20-2005 14:37

Eh? It's not an idea.

It's a very serious offer.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Kathy Yamamoto

Publisher and Surrealist

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 615

01-20-2005 14:43

Uh...I'm confused. But I think I have to say I'll do it.

Give me $100 and I'll write you a bill of sale. I'll hold it against my own tier, instead of yours. You'll have complete access and rights. Then, when you want to resell it, I'll handle the transfer to the new party.

Am I missing something?

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Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

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01-20-2005 14:43

From: blaze Spinnaker

No, I think it would be worth a lot more than that. That's why I'm willing to pay $100 USD

dodged the question. Why do you think anyone would pay you as much or more once you owned it?

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

01-20-2005 14:44

blaze, people confuse the fact that they are paying $9.95 a month for 2000L and a base 512sm tier because it's billed as being "free."

there was joyful rioting in the sims when land taxes were dropped. "we won! we convinced them! virtual protestors arise!" some of those people still don't accept that ll simply shifted those taxes from being paid in L to being paid in $.

the only people getting freebies now are the lifers, who've more than used what they paid for up front, and the people who work hard enough inworld, and out, to cash enough lindens to cover their fees.

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

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01-20-2005 14:50

Heh heh.. Yeah, I guess I should fill in the details for those who are new

Basically, the idea would be that I wouldn't have to pay $9.99 per month or anything ever.

In a way it's an investment in the company. Some players paid $200 for 4096 m2, so they're pretty lucky.

I'm willing to pay $100 for basically a 300th of what they have, except that I'd be able to resell.

It would be nice if the land didn't have to be in a particular SIM, though I might be a bit nervous about that if the SIM for whatever reason got closed down.

LL would have to promise to always relocate my property if I wasn't around to do it (Got hit by a bus or something).

I'd pay more for more but I'm not sure I could afford to invest that much (LL isn't exactly blue chip..)

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Prokofy Neva

Virtualtor

Join date: 28 Sep 2004

Posts: 3,698

01-20-2005 14:56

Sure there's such a thing. Pay me the $100, I will put you in my rentals group on group land, you get the 16 m forever ; ) Heck, I'll give you a 512 for that much : )

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blaze Spinnaker

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01-20-2005 15:01

ahaha.

Again, I'll pay LindenLabs that money. I don't think Prokofy has benchmark backing..

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Ice Brodie

Head of Neo Mobius

Join date: 28 May 2004

Posts: 434

01-20-2005 15:06

Isn't it like... 5 bucks USD a month for 512 meters of land, I seem to recall that somewhere.
Like... the home page o.O?

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Prokofy Neva

Virtualtor

Join date: 28 Sep 2004

Posts: 3,698

01-20-2005 15:11

From: someone

benchmark backing..

I don't know what this means. I have a year-long subscription. What, you want me to pay YOU to live on land I bought and turned over to you??? Well, the offer is still good.

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Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,869

01-20-2005 15:21

From: blaze Spinnaker

Heh heh.. Yeah, I guess I should fill in the details for those who are new

Basically, the idea would be that I wouldn't have to pay $9.99 per month or anything ever.

In a way it's an investment in the company. Some players paid $200 for 4096 m2, so they're pretty lucky.

I'm willing to pay $100 for basically a 300th of what they have, except that I'd be able to resell.

It would be nice if the land didn't have to be in a particular SIM, though I might be a bit nervous about that if the SIM for whatever reason got closed down.

LL would have to promise to always relocate my property if I wasn't around to do it (Got hit by a bus or something).

I'd pay more for more but I'm not sure I could afford to invest that much (LL isn't exactly blue chip..)

This didn't help. I get the never having to pay for it again part. but it's still 16 meters. what use is 16 meters paying regularly or not? how would you recoup your 100$

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

01-20-2005 15:29

Well, prokofy if you put up a bond that you'll pay my tier for the next 100 years, I'll do it.

It's probably about $10*12*100, so $12,000 USD? We can use Lloyds of London for escrow (you'll have to pay the escrow fees, which will probably be more than the interest).

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Yashu Vindaloo

Velvet Dominant

Join date: 24 Aug 2004

Posts: 121

01-20-2005 16:53

The problem is there aren't enough tier levels. It is too much of a jump between levels.

Prokofy Neva

Virtualtor

Join date: 28 Sep 2004

Posts: 3,698

01-20-2005 17:31

blaze, let's just do a micro version of this for 100 days, in LL, and see how it goes, and don't use Lloyds, use SLExchange...

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

01-20-2005 17:50

No, the idea is that this land will still be around no matter what happens.

What if you get hit by a bus? Who's going to pay my land tier?

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

CrazyMonkey Feaver

Monkey Guy

Join date: 1 Jul 2003

Posts: 201

01-20-2005 18:08

Id sell my lifetime for 25,600 USD, lol..(4096 m2)

I'll pay $100 USD for 16m2 of Tier Free Land
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 14:10 Is there such a thing? If there was, how much would you pay for it? I think I might pay $100 USD to LindenLabs for 16 m2. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Zuzi Martinez goth dachshund Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,860	01-20-2005 14:22 i'd pay approx. US$0 for it. what is that like 12 prims?
Alby Yellowknife Sic Semper Tyrannis Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,148	01-20-2005 14:23 From: blaze Spinnaker Is there such a thing? If there was, how much would you pay for it? I think I might pay $100 USD for 16 m2. I just bought 16,800m2 of land for L$69,000 just the other day.. That'll run me about $75/mo ($900/yr)
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-20-2005 14:24 tier free land is land you can afford on your base package . _____________________
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	01-20-2005 14:25 Send me your $100 and I'll throw 16m2 of land allocation to a group of your choosing _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-20-2005 14:26 How big is your package? _____________________
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 14:28 Let me clarify in case it wasn't obvious, I'd pay linden labs $100 for 16 m2 of tier free land and the land should be fully resellable. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-20-2005 14:30 you really thing 16m of land would be worth 100 just because it's not going to dock your tier? _____________________
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 14:32 No, I think it would be worth a lot more than that. That's why I'm willing to pay $100 USD _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Lance LeFay is a Thug Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 1,488	01-20-2005 14:36 Blaze, this is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard. _____________________ "Hoochie Hair is high on my list" - Andrew Linden "Adorable is 'they pay me to say you are cute'" -Barnesworth Anubis
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 14:37 Eh? It's not an idea. It's a very serious offer. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Kathy Yamamoto Publisher and Surrealist Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 615	01-20-2005 14:43 Uh...I'm confused. But I think I have to say I'll do it. Give me $100 and I'll write you a bill of sale. I'll hold it against my own tier, instead of yours. You'll have complete access and rights. Then, when you want to resell it, I'll handle the transfer to the new party. Am I missing something? _____________________ Kathy Yamamoto Quaker's Sword Leftist, Liberals & Lunatics Turtlemoon Publishing and Property turtlemoon@gmail.com
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-20-2005 14:43 From: blaze Spinnaker No, I think it would be worth a lot more than that. That's why I'm willing to pay $100 USD dodged the question. Why do you think anyone would pay you as much or more once you owned it? _____________________
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	01-20-2005 14:44 blaze, people confuse the fact that they are paying $9.95 a month for 2000L and a base 512sm tier because it's billed as being "free." there was joyful rioting in the sims when land taxes were dropped. "we won! we convinced them! virtual protestors arise!" some of those people still don't accept that ll simply shifted those taxes from being paid in L to being paid in $. the only people getting freebies now are the lifers, who've more than used what they paid for up front, and the people who work hard enough inworld, and out, to cash enough lindens to cover their fees. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 14:50 Heh heh.. Yeah, I guess I should fill in the details for those who are new Basically, the idea would be that I wouldn't have to pay $9.99 per month or anything ever. In a way it's an investment in the company. Some players paid $200 for 4096 m2, so they're pretty lucky. I'm willing to pay $100 for basically a 300th of what they have, except that I'd be able to resell. It would be nice if the land didn't have to be in a particular SIM, though I might be a bit nervous about that if the SIM for whatever reason got closed down. LL would have to promise to always relocate my property if I wasn't around to do it (Got hit by a bus or something). I'd pay more for more but I'm not sure I could afford to invest that much (LL isn't exactly blue chip..) _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	01-20-2005 14:56 Sure there's such a thing. Pay me the $100, I will put you in my rentals group on group land, you get the 16 m forever ; ) Heck, I'll give you a 512 for that much : ) _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 15:01 ahaha. Again, I'll pay LindenLabs that money. I don't think Prokofy has benchmark backing.. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Ice Brodie Head of Neo Mobius Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 434	01-20-2005 15:06 Isn't it like... 5 bucks USD a month for 512 meters of land, I seem to recall that somewhere. Like... the home page o.O? _____________________
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	01-20-2005 15:11 From: someone benchmark backing.. I don't know what this means. I have a year-long subscription. What, you want me to pay YOU to live on land I bought and turned over to you??? Well, the offer is still good. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-20-2005 15:21 From: blaze Spinnaker Heh heh.. Yeah, I guess I should fill in the details for those who are new Basically, the idea would be that I wouldn't have to pay $9.99 per month or anything ever. In a way it's an investment in the company. Some players paid $200 for 4096 m2, so they're pretty lucky. I'm willing to pay $100 for basically a 300th of what they have, except that I'd be able to resell. It would be nice if the land didn't have to be in a particular SIM, though I might be a bit nervous about that if the SIM for whatever reason got closed down. LL would have to promise to always relocate my property if I wasn't around to do it (Got hit by a bus or something). I'd pay more for more but I'm not sure I could afford to invest that much (LL isn't exactly blue chip..) This didn't help. I get the never having to pay for it again part. but it's still 16 meters. what use is 16 meters paying regularly or not? how would you recoup your 100$ _____________________
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 15:29 Well, prokofy if you put up a bond that you'll pay my tier for the next 100 years, I'll do it. It's probably about $1012100, so $12,000 USD? We can use Lloyds of London for escrow (you'll have to pay the escrow fees, which will probably be more than the interest). _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Yashu Vindaloo Velvet Dominant Join date: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 121	01-20-2005 16:53 The problem is there aren't enough tier levels. It is too much of a jump between levels.
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	01-20-2005 17:31 blaze, let's just do a micro version of this for 100 days, in LL, and see how it goes, and don't use Lloyds, use SLExchange... _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-20-2005 17:50 No, the idea is that this land will still be around no matter what happens. What if you get hit by a bus? Who's going to pay my land tier? _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
CrazyMonkey Feaver Monkey Guy Join date: 1 Jul 2003 Posts: 201	01-20-2005 18:08 Id sell my lifetime for 25,600 USD, lol..(4096 m2)

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