Kerry stoops to a new low by calling out Cheney's daughter!

Ok... time for all of you libs out there to stand up for one of your own. Kerry singling out Cheney's daughter for being a lesbian was for political purposes only and downright pathetic. It is an example of dirty politics at it's worst. Let's all rally against the man for his lower than low tactic.



Um… wasn’t Kerry asked what HE thought… not what Dick Cheney’s daughter thought?



Exactly why is that I have to ask? I thought that Edwards and Kerry supported homosexuals? Their true colors come out.



I couldn’t agree more Mr. Vice President

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4551198,00.html

It's only bad if you think lesbian is a dirty word or a horrible thing to be. That is why Mrs. Edwards used the shame comment. Their is no shame in having a lesbian daughter.

As for Mary Cheney, she is not some innocent little lesbian daughter. She is running her father's re-election campaign. She isn't just a family member, she is a fully paid staff member.

Mary Cheney and her life partner appeared on the stage with their father after the Vice Presidential debate. Her being a lesbian is no big secret nor is it something dirty that John Kerry shouldn't reference.

Do you think it's dirty? Does George Bush think it's a dirty little secret?

Who was it again that politicized homosexuality by speaking to the entire nation about the need for a Constitutional Amendment? I forget.

In what way is calling an out and proud lesbian woman a lesbian stooping to a new low?

Methinks your homophobia is showing.

Why couldn't he give us HIS OWN thoughts though Neehai? Is Cheney's daughter the one running for office? No, I don't think so. Was she a participant in the debate last night? No again.

Cheney himself has brought up his duaghter and her sexuality in stump speeches during the campaign, when asked about the proposed gay marriage ban. That low bastard! Talking about his own daughter that way! The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

He did give us his own thoughts and a relevant example.

It's not John Kerry's fault Dick Cheney' daughter is a lesbian.

Again, I don't think it is a dirty word or a dirty thing to be. Mary Cheney runs Dick Cheney's campaign so she was a relevant example.

What were HIS thoughts again? I must have somehow lost his point, as often seems to be the case when I hear him drone on and on about 'the plan'. Does anyone really know what 'the plan' is? Or is this kind of like turning in Ovalitine UPC's to receive the Orphan Annie decoder...kind of like "Vote for me and 'the plan' will be revealed to you."

How exciting! Sorry, if you watched A Christmas Story, you already know the disappointment in store if you think you'll be decoding anything more than "I hate Bush!"

http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

In answer to your question, everyone who bothered to read it knows what the plan is. Is your complaint that it wasn't somehow downloaded directly into your brain by osmosis while you were sleeping?

Luckily I am here to save you from your ignorance. It is hard work (like being President) but someone has to do it.

http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

It has been mentioned many times. I am provided the link many times. I am doing so again for you.

Damn Chip, you are too fast.

You mean you knew about the sekrit plan too?

If you mean "outing" his daughter then you'd be assuming she had been "in" as in "in the closet". This is no new revalation. You can't "out" someone who is already out.

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Yeah, it was passed out at the last Unpatriotic Godless America Haters meeting I attended

Billy, the question was whether he thought homosexuality is a choice. Since he is not a homosexual, it would be near impossible for him to cite his *personal* opinion w/o referring to somone who IS gay. They are the only ones who can truly answer the question, all the rest are merely guesses, educated and otherwise.

I think you're reaching way too far on that comment and looking for reasons to discredit Kerry.



*Sigh* Billy... you've taken this completely out of context. Mrs. Kerry's comment was in response to a comment from Mrs. Cheney:



If you were to take that in context, I agree with what she's saying. Kerry said nothing hurtful about Lynn or her sexuality. One could easily speculate that the seed of her anger is not really Kerry's comments, but her daughters sexuality which brought the spotlight to an area they'd rather it not be.

So Cheney has a lesbian daughter. Big freakin' deal. Mrs. Cheney getting all pissy about Kerry bringing up her daughter's sexual preference suggests that "mommy dearest" is having trouble accepting her daughter's lifestyle. It was not an invasion of her family's privacy, since it was already public knowledge. Kerry's comment was in no way an insult. Actually, it underlined the hypocracy of the Republican platform when it comes to how they view homosexuals. They want their votes, but they will deny their rights.

I find it ironic that the very people who were offended by Kerry's comments were the same ones who ate up the Starr report, and learned all about Clinton's bent penis. Where were the cries of invasion of privacy back then?

Bravo, couldn't have said it better myself.

At least Kerry didn't call her a filthy hedonist like Alan Keys did.

(btw, Alan Keyes' daughter is also a lebsian. I think it is in the republican drinking water.)

I was watching the news about this tonight. At the end of the report they suggested that Cheney was more upset about Kerry speaking on how his daughter would think rather than the fact that he mentioned she was a lesbian. Kerry shouldnt speak on how she thinks since he has no real knowledge of her opinion and bringing her up somehow implies that she supports his stance. I think the whole thing it is all overblown and ashamed if it becomes or remains a focus beyond tomorrow.

This thread really amuses me. It has played out exactly as I thought it would. For Kerry to discuss someone’s sexuality that he doesn’t even know is pathetic and to defend his actions is a sad testimony for Kerry supporters everywhere.

All of your rationalizations are laughable. Let me summarize:
1. She works on her dads campaign so who cares about her privacy
2. Let’s deflect attention away from the issue altogether by calling the messenger a homophobe
3. Blame Cheney of the same thing insinuating that what Kerry did was ok.
4. Putting words in the mouth of someone you don’t even know is perfectly fine. Let’s say it is even a relevant example because surely Kerry KNOWS what she thinks… right?
5. Answering a direct question about your thoughts is best answered by saying what someone else thinks.
6. Lets just call people ignorant to hide our own ignorance and bring up some crap about Bush… even though it has nothing to do with this issue.
7. Kerry has a “plan”
8. How about claiming we are talking about “outing” her when that was never said. Let’s just completely ignore the issue.
9. Since Kerry is not gay he has no opinion at all about the issue so he turned to his only option, talking about his opponent’s daughters sexuality… yeah… that’s right… sounds reasonable.
10. Attack the mother instead of Kerry. After all, a mother has no right being angry at someone who is talking about their daughters sexuality for political purposes ONLY.
11. Compare Kerry’s actions to something worse and say it is perfectly fine.
12. Let’s not forget my personal favorite… claim that we now KNOW what Cheney’s wife thinks about her daughter’s sexuality and accuse her of being angry at her, not Kerry for this happening.

That is all a crock and you know it. What Kerry did was wrong. I would respect him if he would just be a man and come out with an apology but we all know that will never happen. You all have given very plausible excuses for him to use. I am sure that the democratic party thanks you for your blind support. Isn’t it wonderful having a whole bunch of hypocrites as supporters who could care less about a persons rights and will endlessly rationalize Kerry’s actions with hollow excuses. Rationalize… Rational Lies!

You KNOW that if rolls were reversed and it was in fact Bush that did what Kerry did that you would scream bloody murder. But hey, Kerry is a liberal and who cares about Cheney’s daughter, she is a conservative anyway… right? Hypocrites!

It's not about her privacy. She was the friggin Gay and Lesbian Outreach Coordinator for Coors. Mary Cheney is pretty out there.


What do you want? A bloodletting?

Typical Republican smokescreens. Don't look at the war and the terrible economy. Look at the bad man who talked about the lesbian.

Look over there! Not over here!

Haha, exactly! What, I'm supposed to be upset about this now? Okay. Damn you, lesbian menitoning Democrats! Er, what? Cheney had already brought it up publicly himself? Er, Damn you, inconvenient facts!

Those wacky compassionate conservatives getting all bent out of shape that Kerry would bring up Mary Cheney's sexual proclivity for political reasons, while supporting an amendment to the Constitution to ensure she never gets equal rights, for political reasons! Nah, no hypocrisy there. :cough:

Who Cares?
I'm going to vote for Bush, you are going to vote for Kerry.
This ping pong bashing isn't changing my mind or yours.
Billy
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You amuse me Billy/Alby/Shepp. You my friend started this thread. Why? Wasn't there another radical Rep. out there? Can't remember his name but I thought there was another. You people are the reason I can't stand to hold a conservative side of view on any debates in here. Because ya'll wade in and muddy the waters and I can't see the catfish no mo'.
I can't wait until November 3rd.

Yes... Billy's just upset because Bush got his a$$ whooped in the debate... again. Sounds like he's just trying to find more reasons to hate Kerry.

He already did that in Vietnam, but apparently he didn't bleed enough for some folks liking.

Siggy.

More storm in a teacup... I'll rank this with the 'CNN - Newsgate' uproar.. followed by the incredible silence over Fox's lil dual headed blunder..

Same debate - Bush refers to Kerry as Ted Kennedy, saying he is the most liberal senator in the US... hmm c'mon is it Ted or John... sounds a lot like a 'flip-flop' to me...
(chuckle)

Hmm with Limbaugh in rehab and O'Reilly in court, I imagine someone is running outta heroes....

People are gonna vote for whoever they're gonna vote for, and screaming righeous rage on a forum ain't gonna change it.. Especially half quotes taken out of context - I swear you fuckers are worse than the News sometimes.

Siggy.