Star Wars ep.3 ......SUCKED!!

Don't get me wrong i love the FX .....FX were incredible!!!! ....BUT...the story SUCKED ASS!

here's the story......"I love you Anakin....I love you too Padmé...our love will save us...kiss kiss...no I want to be Darth Vader because I want to be a bad ass"

...thats it...the first 3 star wars films worked because every character had a great story to them....we loved each one of them...Solo, Luke, Leia, Chewbacca,Yoda, Vader, hell...even the Jawas were cool because of the story....I'm sorry this movie sucked....at least its over....

LOL yer funny!

Exactly what did you glean about Chewie or Jawas from the other movies?

Chewie = Big guy who flys with Han and fixes the ship....
Jawas = Little grubby guys who kidnap droids and sell them...

i seriously think they ruined the new star wars movies

LOL..how is that different than any of the other movies?

I didn't see an in-depth storyline to any of them. They are comic-booky and fun and entertaining, and that's all they were meant to be.

"N000OOOooo!" (vader voice)

I think that episodes IV-VI are fun to watch because Lucas really didn't know what he was doing and probably knew he didn't know and somehow that process of discovery added to the charm.

Episodes I-III are so boring because he thinks he knows what he's doing and he still has no clue.

Actually Lucas only directed the first one and it took him nearly 3 years to write the script.. and even then, Harrison Ford changed many of his lines because "you can type them, but you can say them."

On-set, all lucas could do was tell everyone to do it better or faster.

And while such fervered creations sometimes work out -- Lucas is just beating a dead horse for more dollars.

While I believe StarWars will always be cool... the latest three films have completely ruined it. The fact that the merchandising was plotted and released before each film is a testament to that.

Lesson: once you let the carrion crows in by licensing your stuff, you're not cool anymore. You're just a greedy loser.

The politics of cool, eh?
All lifestyles, art, and thought are commodities in a capitalist society. Success is measured in dollars because we live in a capitalist society. Sales are the feedback that let us know if we are connecting to our audience. If you do art for art's sake, then you will probably never reach a broad audience and never be "cool" in the first place. It seems like a weird decision to criticize sucky art for being a business venture while giving "cool" artists implied immunity from those kinds of comments.


I'm tempted to agree except for the part about him agreeing to let the film be released with a PG-13 rating (many parents were angry about that). If he only cared about money, he'd have reached a much bigger demographic if he'd kept with a "PG." Knowing how much of a Kurosawa fan he is, I'd say he is honestly trying to convince himself that he is a good storyteller even though he has very little talent (and probably very little self awareness as well).

Really wasn't going for the politics of cool thing. And frankly, I don't buy it either... cool is sold. Just like anything else.

However, I do own two businesses and am thinking of starting a 3rd very part-time venture. I own a record label and a small front that I freelance my illustration and web dev skills through. I also work for a growing IT company now and well... I do like capitalism.

And if people wanna commoditize their lives -- fine by me. Buy your Dalai Lama t-shirt and the latest CDs from the best top-40 artists. It's all subjective anyway.

The fact of the matter is, most Starwars fans will always remember the original. Some of them will like the new ones. But everyone knows it isn't about Starwars really as it is about the video games, dvds, and toys. That's what I was trying to get at.

Guess I slipped into the "it's not cool if everyone else likes it" trap a bit.

(And while we're on the topic, yes I do believe art is precious and shouldn't be a commoditiy even though it is these days.)

As an incurable cynic, I have to wonder if art was always a commodity (as opposed to being one "these days". Even in the Renaissance, art was a luxury for wealthy patrons. I once heard that there were Native Americans who didn't have a word for "art" as we think of it because the art they did have had a utility. I don't know if that memory is accurate or not, but it makes sense that people concerned with survival wouldn't have a use for art that was precious in and of itself. This line of thinking makes me wonder if precious art that isn't a commodity is just a luxury of the self-centered (made that way by an excess of ideals, freedom, money, power, or anything else). I wonder if truly precious art can only exist in periods of social excess because precious, non-commodity art becomes disposable when survival becomes anything more than an afterthought. Without euphemisms, I guess what I'm really suggesting is that maybe precious art is only the luxury of the spoiled?

When I think about myself and the fact that I can appreciate a cloud, or a piece of art, or an ant exploring a blade of tender zoysia in the morning light as something worth cherishing just because it exists, the thought creeps up that, "Damn, I'm lucky to be a spoiled brat who can indulge to this extent."

Bah. They all sucked.

The best thing StarWars ever spawned was Lego Starwars: The Video Game. So it was worth enjoying 20-something years of overhyped tripe in the end

Much anger you have. Path to the dark side it is.

"I killed them, I killed them all, the women, the children, the babies"



When we saw that at the first midnight showing, I laughed out loud, very loud. That was one of the most poorly delivered lines in the history of movies with sound. People turned around and glared at me, so I silently laighed until I cried.



The poor acting has been the worse thing in these movies so far. Episodes 1 and II sucked, I expect III to suck also. Star Wars to me is like a bad marriage with a lot of money at stake. I have been in it too long to bail now, even thoguht it sucks, so I just keep some side action.

Sigh. I kinda figured it would suck, even after the advance reviews kept saying "No, no, its darker, you'll LIKE this one!".

I'm still gonna see it at the drive-in tonight...cause even a crappy movie is better at the drive-in

Yup...you're silly, it was good (not groundbreaking, but good nonetheless). Worth the money to go see. I particularly liked all of the little "easter eggs" you see going on in the background....I think I'll watch it again this weekend.

I still will see it, maybe just wait for the dvd to arrive.

OK, here's my 2 cents:

I think we can all agree that Phantom Menace and Clone Wars did SUCK, but I beg to differ with this one, and here's why:

1. No cute n fuzzy/comic relief creatures like Jar-Jar or Ewoks to distract/detract from the overall plot, (unless you count R2-D2, which I thought his scenes were awesome and a lot of fun, not stupid at all)

2. I think that Anakin's transition to the dark side was handled fairly well, although the first part of the movie dragged on a bt too long for my taste. Hey, waddya know, he made the choice out of LOVE... hmmm interesting paradox!

3. I liked how they pretty much tied everything up. I was really worried before I saw it that I wouldn't be satisfied with how he wrapped things up, but I didn't have that feeling at all when I left the theater.

4. I really appreciated Lucas' efforts to evolve the architecture and vehicles start to resemble the ones in IV and onward. Did anyone else notice that the colors that the clone warriors wore (faded red, blue, yellow, green) are the same colors that the Rebel forces use in subsequent movies... so the Stormtroopers become all white, kind of representing the purging/reorganization of forces once the Empire is created.

5. Yoda kicks major ass once again!


The things about this one I DIDN'T like are:

1. Too long. They could easily have chopped a 1/2 hour out of the movie by elimintaing the ridiculously bad acted love scenes.

2. Count how many damn times you see a scene where a ship is landing on some platform somewhere. It's EXCESSIVE! On the order of at least a dozen, probably a lot more times, each time they show that it takes up a minute or two more of useless footage. OK, Anakin flew to this location, we get it already!

3. The large scale battle scenes. They were excessively chaotic. You couldn't follow any of the action at all, it was just a klooge of "stuff" moving on the screen... look back at the original 3 movies... you could actually follow the action much better, even in the big battle scenes.

4. General Grevious. OK, Lucas must have decided that the only way to top Darth Maul's double-sided lightsabre was to have a character that uses FOUR. That was just stupid. And they never really explained why the guy coughed all the time! LOL

5. The first 1/2 of the movie plodded along rather slowly.

6. If they really wanted to demonstrate that there was still a small part of Darth that was good, they would have had him let the padawan children go instead of slaughtering them. Bad move on Lucas' part I think, but it did certainly make him look much more evil!

7. The post-Vader-gets-fitted-into-his-suit scene "NOOOOOO!" was just gay and could have been handled much more dramatically.

8. The Jedi were dispatched WAAAAY too easily when they were ambushed. I was pretty disappointed with that.

9. Put some damn railings up on those high walkways for chrissake! Actually that part has bothered me in ALL the movies! LOL

**SPOILER!!! DON"T READ BELOW IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT**



1. Agreed, everyone will like one particular scene with R2-D2 (who, by ROTJ will be the grizzled vet of 3 wars)
2. Yup...didja notice the computer effect on his eyes to darken them when he had a "sith" moment?
3. Almost everything is tied up...though some things were tied up with one line of dialog (seemed like an afterthought...like the explaination of the jedi ghosts)
4. And we got to see Scout Troopers ver. 1.0! And I loved the single rider walkers that were ridden like ostridges..
5. Yoda, R2-D2, The Emp....but mostly Obi Won (who would've known from ANH that he was such a badass!)

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1. No way, I could taken another hour of it...(needed more space battles)
2. I agree, but didja see the M. Falcon near the beginning? (it's during the first docking scene on Corusant)
3. I did find the first scene a bit too hard to follow (mostly from the swooping camera angles), the new ships RAWK, though!
4. Oh come on! Him twirling two and blocking with 2 and cutting the floor like a buzzsaw...way cool. And if you watched the Clone Wars cartoon it explains his coughing, he was attacked by Windu and almost killed just prior to his first scene in Episode III. (they also explain Ani's facial scar in the cartoon)
5. Not including the huge space battle and the encounter with Tyrannus...
6. I have the opposite feeling, everything else indicated that the Sith and Jedi were almost mirror images of each other, there needed to be a real reason to call him evil instead of just killing aliens/droids. Just becoming a Sith and acting petulent didn't really capture his "fall" emotionally for me...killing kids (who were looking to him for guidance) in cold blood, that did it for me.
7. Agreed, but him freaking out and crumpling every piece of metal near him was cool looking..
8. I felt the same way, I always thought that they had heightened senses, only one of them picked up on it before they could kill him....
9. What about at Ani and Padme's apartment...they just walk out onto their balcony (which looks a couple of thousand feet up) and hop in their convertable ship, real safe...

My only real complaint is a timeline one:
Luke was a late teen/maybe 20 in ANH...Obi looked around 65. Which would mean that Obi was supposed to be around 45 in this movie (if so, he looked GREAT)....

oh wait, and the emperor's "deformed" makeup looked cheeseball until he put his hood up...

Why beg? Why not just differ?

Anyway, I like how you want to differ and say that this one doesn't suck but you listed almost twice as many negatives than positives. Clearly you are crazy and should not be trusted.

that's a shame....

I was really excited when I went to see Phantom Menace, even though the title was stupid. I saw it on openning night, and was very disappointed.

I was cynnical when I went to see Attack of the Clones, because it had the sort of title that Ed Wood used to use. I wen't anyway, however, because I honestly hoped that George Lucas would make good. During the film I may have laughed and cried, but not when Lucas wanted me to. It was a horrible movie, and I really should have braced myself with a few beers before subjecting myself to it.

Revenge of the Jedi... I mean Return of the... wait... oh yeah... Revenge of the Sith. Hmm... Do I really want to see this one for theater price? Well, maybe if George sent me a ticket for the new film, along with sixteen dollars to pay for the other ones... maybe then.

As it is, I might check it out in the Dollar Cinema. The lesson for me is: no matter how many times you say the word "digital" in the commercial, it's still a bad movie.


Gydeon.

I actually saw it because the trailer made it look like it might have depth. It made it look interesting. The person who cut the trailer deserves a reward. Maybe they should have directed it.

I don't feel that way at all. There are those who'd commoditize art -- but it doesn't make it any less precious. It's a fascinating concept that one person's junk is another's masterpiece.

Wildly cynical yes, but if you can enjoy a cloud -- don't go claiming nihilism or anything.

As for art being selfish -- yes, it is very selfish. Creating a work of art is a very internal process unique to how you feel, think, and what you experience. It has an almost unlimited scope and can compound limitless volumes of information in a single representation.

However, art is also copyable and duplicable -- afterall, once it exists, someone can find a way to do it the same as you or better. Heck, they can refine it into a process and distribute it everywhere and make a few dollars.

While it may be precious still to some... I don't think the latest three starwars movies were the labour of one man or a group of people to express something. Looks, feels, and apparently is simply another corporate venture -- a duplicable formula easily distributed to the masses.

Maybe there should be an academy award for that lol!

Most Quality Portrayed in a Trailer in Spite of Source Material


Gydeon.

It's too bad because they're great actors individually -- everyone knows Samual L. Jackson is a badass and Ewan McGregor is great -- even Hayden Christensen was wonderful in "Life as a House."

It just goes to show how awful a director Lucas is if he can flatten Natalie Portman. I wish they'd used unknowns (except they would've stayed "unknown", poor fools, 'cause he's so baaaddd)