Out of curiosity, what's happening Feb. 11th?

When I look at secondlife.com, I see a slideshow with pics of people stalking each other on a dark city street, with the message "Coming February 11th". So, what's coming on that date? A new city sim? Combat sim?

MYSI KARUNA

Feb. 11 is when Chinatown opens. It's one of the mos beautiful builds in the history of SL, and its public opening is eagerly anticipated by the SL community.

FYI, it used to say "In world now" next to those pictures, but some people who were upset that Chinatown's owners aren't letting everyone in yet accused LL of "false advertising", so they changed it to say the opening date instead. The wonders never cease in regard to what people find to complain about.

Unreal - a Bedazzled project, is opening.

Mysi, more information about Chinatown is available in this here thread:

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And c-c-check out the official Bedazzle website for more pics:

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Should you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Thanks graciously for the interest, and stay tuned!

PoseCubes will have been released to all of Second Life... oh, on the Linden front page? Well, yeah, that sim, too.

mmm, that may well be a slight exaggeration lol !

It's a complex and very clever build for sure, but would I go as far as calling a dark rainy city street beautiful ? Probably not, no matter how many lightmaps and reflective surfaces there were. This isn't to say I'm decrying the marvelous effort of the crew that built it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ... get it out with Optrex.

Was this necessary

In a nutshell, no, but then blah blah freedom of speech blah blah blah BLAH

*grumbles*

Okay, you can't have it two ways.

Jimmy Thompson knows his textures, and knows how to incorporate them into builds. Chinatown will probably be the pinnacle of his efforts in this area.

By saying 'yeah its great' and then 'no it isn't', just makes you look like some wishy-washy passive/agressive troll.

So, its great or it isn't - just say it, eh?

I think it will be quite beautiful. It raises the bar for anyone who really likes to build, seriously.

read what I said, I'll put it simply for you,

imho it's an exaggeration to call it the most beautiful build in the history of SL.

Yes it is a clever, arguably great build. It was like the poster was saying no-one else has created any particularly beautiful work in SL to date. I can name several builds I would rather look at myself. I personally think bringing what really are no more than standard game graphic techniques into SL doesnt really deserve the level of adoration it gets especially when really the actual content is not an original concept of the builders.

You must be totally barmy for having your own opinion!

Clearly, Chinatown is a lot of great things that can not be denied.

However, the most beautiful ever?

From what I've seen, I disagree. I have seen SIMs which have taken my breath away at their emotional depth and beauty, and while the pictures are very very cool, they don't do it for me any more than hentai gives me a chubby.

Personally, all this hype may lead to some dissapointment when people start complaining about how prim heavy and dark it is, and how annoying the lag is when there are so many avatars in the same sim.

Well it's one of the most detailed/textured places in SL history! Trust me... i've looked... Something else that comes to mind is Gravity Station and WhiteStar Casino. They look really good.

The only thing I don't like about it is I only get like 5 fps

I get that in the vehicle sims when they're empty. I daren't visit this new place.

ty Blaze, you got the point.

IMHO, lightmap textures, reflective modelled mirrors and the Game of Unreal have all been done before and do not equate to the inspired original content of many other SL artists who cannot afford the luxury of entire sims. AND I made the point that I am NOT decrying the effort of the builders, simply stating publicly that it is not a thing of great beauty to all of us. I do get a little annoyed that so much great work is ignored because it isn't on the grand scale of a sim.

Seriously Nexus? Woah, that doesn't sound good at all. How can you have a PVP with such poor frame rates - it's not really good for that sort of action gaming is it? I really hope you're on some old, clapped out computer there held together with sticky tape and string , otherwise I have to ask how playable it is?

Style over content? We shall see!

I don't care if I get 1fps.

I can recognize skill, I don't know what the allergic reaction some people have to just saying 'damn that is good'.

I have a build that is 1,500 prims and counting, I have trouble completing it, because the client lags badly when I work on it. I'm going to finish it anyway, because I really like how its turning out. Performance be damned. Its about actualizing what is in my head, not listening to feeble complaints about how to build it in the most bland way possible, sacrificing detail.

Eh, its almost like I have to say you have to really love building to understand.

I think the one who needs to read more carefully is you, Totally. I never said it was THE most beauiful build. I said it was ONE OF THE most beautiful builds. And as for waht you said earlier, I see no reason why a dark rainy street can't be beautiful. The hallmark of a truly talented artist is to find the inherent beauty in all things, and that's exactly what the Bedazzle team has done with Chinatown. If you can't see that, I feel very, very sorry for you, as you are missing out on a very large slice of what makes life worth living.

Now that we've cleared that up, it sounds like either you haven't been to Chinatown yet, you are completely ignorant of what constitutes "standard game graphic techniques", or both. The fact is there's nothing standard about the way Chinatown was created in relation to the way other games are created. SL is simply incapable of doing things the way they're done in other games. As such, everything needs to be "jerry rigged" to give the appearance that things are happening that are not really happening. I can't say too much more without revealing things about Chinatown that its creators probably don't want known yet, but I'll be happy to elaborate after the opening if you still don't understand. For now I'll just say that some creative solutions had to employed in order to simulate things like mist effects, reflections, etc. In other games, those things could be made "for real", but in SL, they have to be faked. The fact that you seem to think it's all the same is perhaps the best compliment you could have given them, even though your intent was clearly the exact opposite.

As for the "not an original concept" line, you're joking, right? Exactly how many other Chinatowns have you seen in SL? What's that, none? Oh, I get it; you mean because there are places called "Chinatown" in several major cities around the world, then making a place called "Chinatown" in SL must not be anything novel. That makes so much sense, I'll tell you what we should do. Several states have a town of Springfield, and each of them has one if not several little boys named Bart living in them. Let's go tell the creators of the Simpsons they didn't do anything original. While we're at it, I happen to know that the world already has at least one captain whose name is Kirk, a doctor named McCoy, and even a space ship named Enterprise. Let's go dig up Gene Roddenberry and tell him he didn't do anything original. Oh, and that Stephen King guy, all those stories that take place in Maine, Maine's a real place. Nothing original then from Mr. King I guess.

I think you've misunderstood me Maxx, if your response was in some way triggered by what I said. The build does look great in the pictures (can't wait to see it for real) but surely it's being built for a purpose. If you can't move for the client lag then, even though the building is great, it's not really fit for the main purpose, which is PVP gaming.

I'm not sure this has anything to do with building in the "most bland way possible", it's about understanding the purpose of the build and accomodating that accordingly. Like I said I hope Nexus is on a right old dog of a machine as at 5fps, it's not going to playable for its purpose, even if it looks grand.

lmao, oh chosen I'm sorry I've tickled your sensibilities.

Not sure what to make of that, Totally. First you insult the builders of Chinatown by calling it not beautiful and unoriginal. The you insult everyone's intelligence byfeigning respect, calling the very thing you just bashed "arguably great". Next you insult me by misquoting me not once but twice, first by claiming that I had said it was THE most beautiful build, then by pretending I had implied no one else had ever made anything beautiful. Now you laugh about it.

Do me a favor. Don't apologize unless you mean it. It just makes you look silly, as does insulting people who are clearly more talented than you are. If you stand by everything you've said, go build something better than what we're talking about here, and prove it. Otherwise, kindly pack up your bag of insults and go play elsewhere.

No, just a timing of posting -- I just meant that overall, I think the effects are good and I look forward to seeing it in person. I respect Jimmy's skill.

My bland comment is really just frustration with limits imposed by the system, not by particular builders per se. Not directed at anyone at all.

I just get into 'the zone' sometimes and I have to stop when I hit a brick wall like lag or something sometimes, just bugs me.

etc etc resolving into personal attack

I believe it was you who perceived insult. If you are so involved with the project or at least very close to it then perhaps you should step away from this thread if you cannot maintain some sense of subjectivity. I am not going to do you any favors, you don't like my stated opinions, that's ok with me. However at no time did I stoop to the sad depths of a personal attack simply because someone doesn't agree with me. I've no more to say on this thread, it's degraded too far now. If you see me in-world we can discuss it there.

Just for the sake of acuracy, first of all, I'm not involved with the project. I was fortunate enough to receive a tour, and I was very impressed with what I saw. That's all. Second, you are once again contradicting yourself by claiming that your insults were not what they were. If you can't see that your remarks were indeed offensive attacks, then for the third time now, I feel sorry for you. I suspect that you can though, and that you're simply trying to back out of the corner you've put yourself into.

Anyway, I asked you to take your insults elsewhere, and appears that that is exactly what you are doing, so for that I will simply say thank you and move on.

I've been there, I didn't think it was beautiful. I did think it was very clever. I wished I had a whole sim

And please boys, keep your dicks in your trousers eh ?