Wipe or NO Wipe?

Philip asked this at a gathering today!
Please everyone vote!
Give a reason if you like.

P.S. Poll is public, don't be afraid to vote!

Public polls never go well.

Wipe.. ohh I thought you meant something else Nexus..

I think if the Ratings have value and not monetary reward, as well as taking out Negative Ratings it will mean more towards what it was mean't to be. Ratings should only be relevant to a rating, not monetary reward, that being said; there is nothing wrong with ratings because it does not detrementally effect the economy with a revamp of removing bonuses. It will only stimulate appreciation and Social activity and give the real meaning of what it was mean't to be with a cost involved and much like a Tip without the reward, only the Reward of appreciation.

As far as current bonus stipends from previous ratings granted, I think it would be feasible to either gradually deminish it or if going by my proposal with longevity and calculations of what the new longevity system would have granted and adjust it appropriately if it balances within the Economy without a Deficit and leaving enough Surplus to pay Linden Staff appropriately, otherwise go with the Player Tax scenario.

I ticked the yes, but I think it would be fair if LL returned at least a percentage of a person's "Given" ratings in the form of Linden cash. After all, it would be stealing if ratings were wiped without compensation for ratings given because people paid for those ratings. It would be costly, but the only way to fairly wipe them.

I vote yes, but LL should return all money spent on ratings thus far.
-AP

What, you haven't already made that money back a few times over, with the current Bonus system?

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

He should scan the damn forums! this is the third thread devoted to the subject in less than 24 hours.

Forums posters represent a minority of SecondLife users, and I do not think SL is an Auraltocracy. (Rule by shouting the loudest)

I just want wipes period...the dingleberries from the bs tp are killing me.

Opinions seem pretty divided. How about a compromise?

Keep both new and old rates, but separated. On one profile tab page, you can list old rates, and another can list new-style rates

Actually, the rating bonus is/was based on ratings received, not ratings given. So, if I gave 1000 ratings, costing L$1000, yet received no return ratings... I get no rating bonus. So no, a person does not necessarily get money back from ratings spent.

But, I think for ratings to reflect what LL wants them to reflect of a particular person, the ratings need to be wiped.

Thank you for making this poll's question and responses clear, simple, and unbiased. It's a refreshing change from other polls.

It's a public poll though, so whichever way I vote people can yell at me personally for voting that way.

I think they should divide the current ratings by 25. That would make the most sense to me, rather than having everyone start from nothing.

I Disagree.

Reasoning behind this, is - we dont know what ratio the new ratings will take, could be 25, could be 50. LL should transition across into the new system IMO. Lose 10% of old ratings per week for 10 weeks until they are finally all gone. Gives plenty of time to adjust.

-Adam

I would like this. But it would be a stupid move for LL. Most people who disagree with the current ratings system will not leave/react to it being wrong now, or they would have in the past already. But by wiping it, LL will antagonize a large part of the rest of the SL population.

So.. good idea, but bad move...

It would be very not fair to keep the current ratings. The newbies would be surrounded by oldbies with insane ratings, effectively there would be two scales in the world: old ratting and new ratting.

While it's not fair to just reset the ratings for the people who accumulated ratings over the year (wether they merited them or one), I feel that's it's the better solution.

An immediate wipe would be bad idea, yes. It'd probably be best done about a month or two into the reduction period; By then most would have adjusted.

But its definately overall a good idea. I remember when the first Until Uru shards came up, you could import your Prime game, as in Live. But those importing Expansion save games caused stability issues, so the caracter data was wiped from ALL the shards and import disabled. People were mad at that too, but once they found things a lot nicer server-wise they quieted down and enjoyed themselves.

That will happen here too. It just needs time.

Just for the Record, I knew this already DoteDote. But given the propensity for two people to deliberately rate each other whenever they meet in SL, its reasonable to assume that you've gotten at least a moderate number of "re-rates" in response to the ones you've given.

Since the exchange seems to be greater than L$1 per positive rating received, its REALLY easy to make your money back and more! I've been in-world for only 3 weeks. In that time, I've spent L$50 to L$100 rating people. In return, I've been rated about an equal number of times - and have so far garnered L$300 or more in bonuses. That's a pretty good return on investment! And this is also why things need to change.

Ratings Bonus payouts of that level are just counter-productive as they don't motivate people to craft things in the game, put on events, or pay for a Premium Account - to get money. Instead, it encourages people to sit around in big groups and rate each other - kinda like monkeys picking fleas off each other's backs.

Take care,

--Noel "HB" Wade
(Tread Whiplash)

So your saying ppl need to be motived to "do" something other than socialize. I disagree some ppl join SL just to socialize they don't have a need to do anything else. To assume they do is I believe a mistake on your part. I don't think ppl need to be "motivated" I think they need to be left alone and have a good time. Say it with me now "For some SL is entertainment"

*Why am I picturing little worker drones now?

Catherine, as I just said in another thread... its absolutely fine for people to just socialize. As long as they dont expect LL to fund their spending habits. Presumably, if ALL they do is socialize, then they dont need money, right?

And if they DO need money, and they DO expect to be consumers, which means doing more than just socializing... where do they expect this money to come from? If they're not earning it, then they need to inject it into SL thru GOM, don't they?

They can't *really* expect to live off LL's welfare state forever, can they? Or can they?

Well, my thought of what Phillip suggested considering is fair. There needs to be a Tax System as in any Economy. The amount of Taxes collected from Players should be based on their income level, this part is my opinion as far as income level. This would contribute to an economical budget to help fund different things that various account holders want and want to keep. Bottom line is, the people that oppose funded Events will still say, "I don't go to Clubs because of this and that, why should I have to pay?" Reality dictates in a real economy that people have to pay certain Taxes that they do not like or want. I don't like paying Personal Property Taxes on my House because I feel I never truely own it, the Government does. Is my view going to change it? I doubt it. It is a big chunk of necessary funding through Taxation to provide other needed things to keep the Economy maintained.

No way no how!!!

I DO NOT attend events. I DO NOT want to pay for other people to attend events. I DO NOT expect to be penalised for my earning potential to prop up people who want a free ride. I pay $195USD every month for an island that I spend 90% of my time on. The rest of Second Life could not exist and I wouldn't much care. We each play SL our own way. Mine doesnt involve financing yours.

The absolute surest way to make me quit Second Life would be to introduce something like this.

ACK! I voted NO! and I meant YES! but then its not a case of want, its a case of Yes, its an ok idea, I wouldnt mind happening

DAMMIT!

Yes I think its a good idea, what is there to lose? If you are truly talented etc.. your rates will soon get back to good status, if ppl are willing to rate you