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Why persecute the truthful?

Juro Kothari
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05-17-2005 22:46
From: Hiro Pendragon
Because it's pretty obvious that the thread starter is specifically making fun of one person in a public forum, and that's wrong and against CS.

It's a parody... I mean, they did have most of us fooled for the first page or so. I was. Then I thought it was Panda, but now, I dunno who it is.

It might be in poor taste, but if it was against TOS/CS, Robin would've closed it down.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-17-2005 22:47
From: someone

Why should they close it? I didn't see anything that violated the TOS - should they close it because it is an obvious parody of an SL personality?


From: someone

I think it's hillarious!!


Pathfinder, Robin - you've really cultivated a great crowd here.
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05-17-2005 22:49
From: Hiro Pendragon
Because it's pretty obvious that the thread starter is specifically making fun of one person in a public forum, and that's wrong and against CS.

I agree.
It's making fun of another person.
And maybe LL aren't on tonight.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-17-2005 22:51
Robin Says:

From: someone

Impersonating a Linden is against the TOS. There isn't any way for someone to replicate the name of another resident, so we can assume it is at worst, parody.


That was about an hour ago.
Juro Kothari
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05-17-2005 22:51
From: blaze Spinnaker
Pathfinder, Robin - you've really cultivated a great crowd here.

Pishaw. Have a sense of humor about it.

Someone created an account with a similar name, used the same forum icon, even created a parody of the ad in the sig, then went and copy/pasted a bunch of the real Prokofy's posts... all to fool us into thinking it was Prokofy. And, most of us fell for it.
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05-17-2005 22:53
From: Hiro Pendragon
Because it's pretty obvious that the thread starter is specifically making fun of one person in a public forum, and that's wrong and against CS.

i agree, and the name is pretty offensive, too.
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05-17-2005 22:53
From: blaze Spinnaker
Pathfinder, Robin - you've really cultivated a great crowd here.

yeah...
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Hiro Pendragon
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05-17-2005 22:58
While Robin said parodying someone's name, in and of itself, is against the TOS, to my understanding using that parodied name to ridicule somone is.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-17-2005 23:00
Juro, you parody your friends. I've been roasted before, and it's a sign of admiration, respect and trust.

This is not. This is yet another terribly pathetic attempt to alienate and isolate an individual who's real crime was to have alternative opinions.

Because if it was for hijacking threads, being insulting or offensive .. then why aren't all other morons around here which do the same thing equally isolated?
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05-17-2005 23:02
From: blaze Spinnaker
This is yet another terribly pathetic attempt to alienate and isolate an individual who's real crime was to have alternative opinions.

I agree with the um ... first part of that sentence.
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05-17-2005 23:03
From: blaze Spinnaker
This is not. This is yet another terribly pathetic attempt to alienate and isolate an individual who's real crime was to have alternative opinions.

Because if it was for hijacking threads, being insulting or offensive .. then why aren't all other morons around here which do the same thing equally isolated?

prokofy went considerably further than you imply.

but that doesn't justify this parody.
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05-17-2005 23:04
Oh, absolutely, Prok was/is insulting, offensive and hijacked threads consantly.

But there is a huge list of other individuals in these forums which behave exactly in the same way, except that they express ideas and opinions which are widely acceptable.
Juro Kothari
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05-17-2005 23:05
From: Hiro Pendragon
While Robin said parodying someone's name, in and of itself, is against the TOS, to my understanding using that parodied name to ridicule somone is.

If that's the case, I'm sure they will shut the thread.
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05-17-2005 23:05
OK. This thread is totally inappropriate. But I will say this. I laughed SO HARD through this whole thing!!! Honestly, I feel like a shell shocked veteran that just got news that peace broke out! I think we all needed this little celebration before we resumed our civilized discussions.

And for the record....

woot!


:D
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05-17-2005 23:06
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prokofy went considerably further than you imply.


Agreed. But when you sum the offensiveness of the tag-team lynch mobs, I would take a Prokofy over them any day!
blaze Spinnaker
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05-17-2005 23:06
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And for the record....

woot!


I expected nothing less.
Hiro Pendragon
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05-17-2005 23:08
From: blaze Spinnaker
Agreed. But when you sum the offensiveness of the tag-team lynch mobs, I would take a Prokofy over them any day!

blaze, perhaps you've never heard the expression, "Choose the battles you can win".

You're not going to win that one.
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05-17-2005 23:10
For one, it's never a battle. A concept neither Prokofy nor most of the people around here can seem to appreciate, and two .. this is mostly for the benefit of the people who have the maturity and wisdom to appreciate.
Juro Kothari
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05-17-2005 23:10
From: blaze Spinnaker
Juro, you parody your friends. I've been roasted before, and it's a sign of admiration, respect and trust.

No, blaze, parody is not, by definition, a warm-fuzzy you do to your friends.

Judge Rules Barbie Parody is Free Speech

Sometimes, parody is used to make a point, but often it is just in fun. I don't know what the original posters intentions were, but I do know they pulled the wool over us for a few moments.
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05-17-2005 23:13
I like rootbeer floats! :)
Seth Kanahoe
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05-17-2005 23:17
This thread isn't any better than what Prokofy Neva does to other people time and time again. And it isn't any worse, either. The medium and the approach is different; the spirit is just the same.

Prokofy Neva and all of his alts should be banned from these forums. The person who created the PN parody ought to be banned as well.

Funny? No. Satirical? No. Fun and satire have what this little squat-and-push exercise lacks: intelligence, and a decent point. If you're gonna act like a total ass, you can't out-ass the ass you're acting like.

I have no idea how the Lindens are interpreting the standards for enforcement on these forums. None. I wish they'd clarify. Simply throwing the ToS our way isn't gonna do it. The ToS is a document to be interpreted, and as I said, I can't see a pattern in the interpretation.
Hiro Pendragon
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05-17-2005 23:18
From: Juro Kothari
No, blaze, parody is not, by definition, a warm-fuzzy you do to your friends.

Judge Rules Barbie Parody is Free Speech

Sometimes, parody is used to make a point, but often it is just in fun. I don't know what the original posters intentions were, but I do know they pulled the wool over us for a few moments.

This whole thing has nothing to do with free speech.

It does have to do with keeping the forums insult-free.

I could make other insults, and while they are Free-Speech protected, they are still not acceptable in the forums.
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05-17-2005 23:19
Pardon me, I meant - Parody is something you do to your friends when you're a mature and rational adult that's not trying to devolve backing into his or her puberty.
Seth Kanahoe
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05-17-2005 23:19
This thread isn't any better than what Prokofy Neva does to other people time and time again. And it isn't any worse, either. The medium and the approach is different; the spirit is just the same.

Prokofy Neva and all of his alts should be banned from these forums. The person who created the PN parody ought to be banned as well.

Funny? No. Satirical? No. Fun and satire have what this little squat-and-push exercise lacks: intelligence, and a decent point. If you're gonna act like a total ass, you can't try to out-ass the ass you're acting like. You've got to put a little subtlety in the mix.

I have no idea how the Lindens are interpreting the standards for enforcement on these forums. None. I wish they'd clarify. Simply throwing the ToS our way isn't gonna do it. The ToS is a document to be interpreted, and as I said, I can't see a pattern in the interpretation.
Seth Kanahoe
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05-17-2005 23:24
This thread and the parody isn't any better than what Prokofy Neva does to other people time and time again. And it isn't much worse, either. The medium and the approach are different; the spirit is nearly the same.

Prokofy Neva and all of his alts should be banned from these forums. The person who created the PN parody ought to be banned as well.

Funny? No. Satirical? No. Fun and satire have what this little squat-and-push exercise lacks: intelligence, and a decent point. If you're gonna act like a total ass, you can't accidently out-ass the ass you're acting like. You've got to have more control than that.

I have no idea how the Lindens are interpreting the standards for enforcement on these forums. None. I wish they'd clarify. Simply throwing the ToS our way isn't gonna do it. The ToS is a document to be interpreted, and as I said, I can't see a pattern in the interpretation.
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