Daughter Dies While Parents Play WOW

Yep. I've said this a few times before in RL discussions. Great minds think alike.

First: Anyone who leaves a 4 month old alone for any reason deserves to be locked in a room with me and a louisville slugger for about an hour.

And no, you don't want to know what I would do.


Aside from that, I will be perfectly honest: The child could have died anyway.

Why do I say such a terrible thing? Because the truth is, parents CAN'T watch thier child every moment of every day.

What? You don't believe me? Do you take your baby and hold her when you go to the bathroom? When you take a shower? When you watch TV with him in the crib in the next room?

Do you wake up evey 1/2 hour to check on her over night for the first year of her life?

Do you Keep the child in the kitchen with you when you cook?


Think about it. SIDS kills because we are unable to watch a baby every moment of the day. In most cases, children who die of it traumitize the parents terribly with "If I had just watched a little better." or "I'm a mother, I should have KNOWN something was wrong."

And people see that vulnerability and go for blood, over and over.

Parents with living kids, let me clue you in: You were lucky, and rolled the dice well enough to avoid a horror that happens commonly.

I was lucky with my two children, I just remember not to judge others because of my luck.


But... Those two SHOULD burn for leaving the kid along, regardless of why the child died.

How sad

I can't imagine what these parents were thinking leaving an infant home alone period. & While a case of SIDS may not be preventable I didn't see that this is a case of SIDS. It says "suffocation" which as someone else pointed out could have been from soft bedding, stuffed animals, etc in the crib. We simply do not know.
Either way Had they been home something MIGHT have been able to be done to save this baby. Monitors, while not perfect can be rather sensitive. When my younger son (who was a very sickly baby) was little we used the monitor & we could hear him breathing on the monitor..yes it was THAT sensitve. At the slightest hint something didn't sound right I was able to get right to him & check. Many times I had to get up & to help him I shudder to think what might have happened had I not been there.
& I did not treat my older son (who was a healthy infant) any different. I was very cautious with both my kids. When they were sleeping in their cribs I never strayed any further then our front porch, with the front door open, & a baby monitor right with me. Sickens me to think about what these people did.
I am not saying that the baby would Definately be alive had they been home. I do not have enough information to establish that either way, but I do believe that the baby's chances may have been better had they been there & negelecting a child is a crime. Just the possibility that their being home MAY have made a difference imo justifies any charges they may face in regards to their baby's death.

The point that grabbed me was that the lazy-assed couple could have just left the kid UPSTAIRS with a grandparent...I mean, damn, were they afraid that their internet cafe seats were going to get swiped if they didn't hurry? Pathetic.

I have two at the ages of 4 and 6.


At 4 months that is normaly not true. My wife was back to work in 2 months so it was really not true,


I could hear my kids breath on the monitor. I don’t know mine was so great.


They were irresponsible and should be………….Well I don’t know what we should do with them but it’s not good. Yes it does happen every day and some of SIDS is from Parents neglect, some is really unknown reasons. Putting this case and SIDS together is unfair to parents that are not irresponsible and neglecting.

That's what struck me as well. The "computer games are evil" meme gets play when a story without that aspect wouldn't get the same exposure. I wonder if there's any independent verification of the story.

If true, there's no excuse for that degree of irresponsibility, whether you're playing a computer game, hammering out a business deal, or attending the ballet. That this aspect of the story was highlighted may just be a symptom of Korea's growing disenchantment with internet gaming parlors.

I'm not going to get into parenting and stay at home moms. It was great your wife went back to work at 2 months , some people choose not to and some people have children on different sleep schedules.



I am not saying they were not irresponsible but the story it written to be sensational and to continue to paint games as evil and addictive. If these people were home at the time there is no guarantee the child would be alive. Being responsible isn't always enough.

I agree but the statement that when your kid sleeps you sleep does not really fly at that age. Even Stay at home moms I know say the first two months are that way but after that things start to change. If we had the money she should have been stay at home.


The problem was not the games. No were in the story did it say it was the game. 60 min yesterday was talking about the GTA lawsuit because a kid killed some people and cops after playing GTA. It’s called personal Responsibility. If they were home they COULD have MAYBE saved the kids life, Because they were not home with there child there was no chance. If this was a fire you would have agreed 100% because they could have gotten the child out. Well we don’t know what the child chocked on, maybe they gave the kid something that a child that age should not have.

Someone I knew had a baby die of SIDS , while she was out partying. The baby was under the care of his Grandmother. The Grandmother was even awake when it happened, the baby had been sleeping in the next room. The baby was alive when she lay him down to sleep and a couple hours later .. wasnt.

The mother blamed herself anyway. The whole time I knew her she could never get past the feeling that if shed been there she could have saved him.

What happened in this case is a tragedy.

The parents are guilty of neglect. If it was not SIDS (hard to determine , im sure) then they should be held responsible for the baby's death. They are probably going through their own hell also.

The other posters are correct - this is a tragedy sensationalized to get attention to sell papers or get hits or whatever.

It is true people should not ignore theirr children to play games online, children come first.

But i dont think the game was anythind more then what the parents wanted to do when they acted irresponsible. It could have been going to the grocery store or a movie, or any of number of things.

I am not going to argue sleeping schedules and parenting, every parent does what works for them.


And if this was a fire I still wouldnt agree. My grandfather lost his first wife and 2 child in a fire and was only able to save my one aunt. There are no guarantees in life, you can't predict the future and hindsight is 20/20.

They should have been at home or had a babysitter, they didn't. The baby died. If they were home there is no guarantee the baby would be alive. Period.

I have to agree here, it was a careless act to leave the baby alone, but babies die all the time, my daughter almost stopped breathing once, both my partner and I were both there, and thankfully i was so paranoid, I was checking in with her (it was wayyyyyy hot), she had only a nappy on, and no blankets, there are no guarentees that your baby will always be safe, you just have to be responsible enough to try and ensure it doesn't happen.

These parents were not.

Well true. But then maybe they weighed up the alternatives - as you quite rightly present them above...

Plan A: Pay babysitter. No guarantee baby will be alive when we return.
Plan B: Leave baby alone. No guarantee baby will be alive when we return.

...and figured the second way they didnt have to pay for a babysitter.

When my sister was just a baby, my parents were watching tv and my sister was laying on the couch next to my mother. My mom looked down and saw my sister was turning blue and noticed she wasnt breathing. My dad performed CPR and saved my sisters life. So yes, there is a reason to believe things like this could be prevented. Sure not in every case, but at least by someone being there my sister had a chance to survive.

Lets take SIDS out for a Second.

Fire
Plan A: Baby sitter could have possibly gotten the child out of the building.
Plan B: baby alone would have not been able to get out of the building by it’s self.

Hysterics, Some times a person can cry so hard and so long that they swallow there own tong and chock on it.
Plan A1: Baby sitter could have possibly gotten the child calmed down.
A2: Baby sitter could have possibly gotten the tong out and saved the Childs life.
Plan B: baby alone would have not been had any one to comfort it so it would keep crying and then swallow it’s tong and died.

Chocked on a Object:
Plan A: Baby sitter could have possibly saved the Childs life.
Plan B: No one there to even possibly save the child’s life.

Plan A is better then Plan B. The statement that even with a Sitter or the parents there may not have saved the child’s life is true but at least there was a possibility with no one there their was no possibility.

Not really.

Scene A: Baby sits gurgling alone in cot for several hours.

Scene B: Baby gets dropped head first down stairs by babysitter.

If the sitter hadn't been there, there was no possibility of baby being dropped to their death.

Are you advocating a Child of 4 months should be left home alone?

No. Mostly I'm trolling. And reinforcing what Eboni said that in life there are no guarantees.

Can we stop all the BS posturing and scene guessing? Fact is these parents didnt give a shit and the baby had ZERO chance to live. My parents cared and were fortunate enough to save my sisters life. Even if the parents in this story couldnt have saved their child, at least they were responsible and the child had a chance to live if they or someone had been with the child. Be responsible and be a good parent. Do what you can. If you neglect your children for whatever selfish reason then I have zero sympathy for you.

You are right there is no Guarantee, No one here is saying there is. We are saying that with out a siter the child had no chance. With a Sitter MAYBE the child had a chance.

Unless what I said above happens

When your case of diarrhea of the mouth is cleared up let me know. But the fact that there are no guarantees in life does not excuse a parent from being responsible. Just like you use trolling as an excuse to say what you want and not have to take the consequences.

When you disappear up your own ass, gimme a shout so I can come point and laugh.

*crickets*

Come on. You can do better. That wasnt even good. I thought you were the professional troll around here.

Yeah cmon Kritter, who the hell am I sposed to look upto if you go soft?!!?!

Why bother? You've already decided that I'm full of shit and only pretending to troll so as not to be answerable for my real thoughts. If you knew anything about me at all, btw, you'd know if I had a real opinion on the subject I wouldn't be holding it back. Because for one thing I could care less what anyone's opinions of my opinions are.

You obviously figured you'd pick a fight. I'm merely bored. And if I were bored enough to fight, there are far more worthy opponents.