Tolerance - The T word topic of the day

so who are you to judge them?

Seems like it was an A and B conversation and you should C your way out of it... Apparently they weren't disccusing these issues with you, so who are you to judge them?

I don't think Vade was overtly judging these two individuals, but upon re-reading Vade's original post, I see where Sensual is coming from. I guess I had assumed that Vade was more of an active participant in the discussion.

Oh, no, Wall/Alby arn't the same

Seems like it was an A and B conversation and you should C your way out of it... Apparently they weren't disccusing these issues with you, so who are you to judge them?

Goddamn Alby,

Where do you get the time to find such hilarious photos? I'm loving 'em.

You rock!

Vade,

It was the protestant who crossed the line in the first place by making unwelcome statements about needing to save someone. That is forcing your religious beliefs upon someone else, which is not tolerance. Additionally, the religious justification for the continued oppression of gay people is sickening, and makes me ashamed as a Catholic and a hetereosexual male. Tolerance would be to let the gay person live his or her life without interference from some "well intentioned" Christian who just wants to save them from their poor sinful selves . Try looking in the mirror and saving thyself - we are only responsible for ourselves.

What would you have the gay person do? Sit there and let the person tell them all that is wrong with who they are? Ok, in that case I should have let the person who called me a nigger, spic and a monkey just go on by and not push back against that out of tolerance, since it was obviously his belief that non-white people are trash, and I need to respect that eh? I am sure the argument will be "but race is different". It's not - gay people are born that way, and no amount of bigotry in the name of religion is ever going to change that.

Pardon my quoting the entire thread Cris, this late in the thread...

This is not really how it went, Mr. Christain was just sharing his beliefs saying jesus died for our sins, some example of what his belief structure saw sins as, and that was pretty much it. Also, he only stated this after the homosexual player asked him why he did not agree with homosexuality. To be honest, I kind of felt bad for the protastant, and I am sorry I categorize protastants as christians if that is wrong. He was being scolded for his beliefs, and was basically being told that his beliefs are wrong - there is no god - etc etc. I mean, it is one thing to disagree, or not believe... it is another to put someone down for thier beliefs. I was just so shocked, I did not know how to feel. I know homosexuals have it bad, not from expierience, but I try to imagine myself in other's shoes... they can not overtly join the military... Marrige is iffy across the US, so many hardships, and yes... acceptance in religion is one of them. I however do not think that means because the religion as a whole slams his beliefs, that he can bash a follower of the religion. I felt so bad, shocked...

Okay, this is DEFINATELY not how you phrased the first post

Why not keep your trap shut unless you know? You must be tired from jumping to such conclusions, yes I was involved. It may not have been clear, but that does not give you the right to say anything.

LMAO you clearly said you werent invilved in this conversation, and what the hell gives you the right to judge other people? Give me a break!

Point out exactly where I said I WAS NOT IN THE CONVERSATION. Until then, shut your trap.

I was on for a little while earlier, so I decided to do some exploring. I overheard a conversation between a homosexual (presumed) male and a protastant (presumed as well) male.

Well, I do care, and it will most likely bother me for some time. I will probably never fully understand until either A) I become a homosexual (and not to be rude, but I do not see that ever happening) or B) I become a christain (I do not see that either, too many contradictions in my eyes) and I will never fully understand your situation Paolo... Although I may never fully understand any of this, I do want to understand enough so that I do not offend anyone. I am not afraid to speak my views, but offending someone without reason is something I do not want to do. I mean, I felt bad for the christain... so should I have said something? Would the homosexual person think I am against him? It is tough.

In reply to the media, Catholics, and Christains... Isnt Catholosizm (spelling) and Christianity based off the same exact book? I guess that is one of the reasons I can not follow any spin off religion from the "Holy Bible" because of the major division and the so many different beliefs and teachings from the same book. I guess there are just some things I will never understand