griefer hate objects

Someone needs to put together a list of these little pieces of shi'ite and post it somewhere so everyone knows who they are.

We have, Darwin, and it's been sent to you. 95 names total so far.

It's been sent to you online. Enjoy.

No one from the goon group is seriously anti-gay. I'm sure if you keep saying that it'll become true, though!

ANY kind of hate speech shouldn't have to be tolerated, even in jest. Those objects were TOTALLY unacceptable. I hope you realize btw age limit here is 18. Please get the rugmonkeys in your group out.

So, who 's the go-to man for banishers in SL?

Might as well see what a security system will run, out of curiosity.

Can you ban groups, or does it have to be on a name by name basis? And the man to see is Tcoz Bach.

It has to be by name.

I suppose I should log in really quickly and check my plot, since I haven't been there in weeks, but I've gotta go to work.

laffo

Gee, that rhymes with asshole...buttwad

Realize that even supporting hate in jest is a violation of the TOS. "Just joking around" is not a valid defense, sorry.

SA has been known for its online acts of hate, or 'humor' as they call it, for years.

They do damage in their own way. Chaos in online games, crashing events in order to harass people, harassing and ridiculing people for their interests, infringing copyrights, costs real people real money by using up people's bandwidth by posting their bad site of the day thing.

All we can really do is sit back and hope that someday what goes around comes around.

You could use the exact same examples to accuse slashdot of being known for hate, because when it links to something the mass page views and visitors causes the owners unwanted grief.

You're painting an entire community of tens of thousands of people as hatemongers because it's popular, and some of it's members are jerks. Laying it on a wee bit thick aren't we?

I had some SA Goons objects on my plot...

A plywood cube and a semi-transparent hollowed out sphere painted white.

Oh. The horror.

*shrug* Just like this forum's got a few bad apples, other forums do too. You'd think the $10 fee would weed out those people, but... *shrug*

I'm just glad they happened to pick the one thing that'll get you at LEAST suspended for their first 'antic'. Hate speech ain't exactly on the acceptable list 'round here.

You got lucky. I caught a glimpse of Darkwood an hour or so ago.

*shudder*

A bit thick? Not from what I have seen outta your members here so far.

It not right, its not sensible, but its human nature to condemn a whole group for a few peoples actions.

One popular notion that exists in the US is guilt by association. It is enforced in the courts all the time.

Like if your buddies go out and rape someone, and you just stand there and watch, you have a good chance of going to prison.

It is the individual's responsibility to determine when he or she needs to distance himself from the wrongdoing of their associates.

...Or even be brave enough to speak out against it when its happening.

But, Remo - at what point does that become, in a sense, falling in line?

Under that reasoning, those of us with the furry avs were essentially at fault for receiving the griefing that we got - (A sentiment I'm sure much of SA would concur with) - because the very construction of a nonhuman avatar would mean guilt by association via the people who *have* given the group a bad image.

But at what point does that become, "I better look like everyone else and just not try to associate, because if I do, I'll get called on it."

Not often over this weekend, but a few times, I have heard, "Well if you didn't want trouble, why did you make that dragon avatar?"

To that, I say, why are we on SecondLife if we aren't building, creating, and diverging from our "first life" identity?

And if that's why we're there, does it have to be done within bounds, or harrassment is deserved?

I know you were talking about the SA goons, but the argument can be reversed. I'm not so sure that guilt by association should be held high over the tenet of judging each individual as they come.

I don't think that getting targeted for what we build in SL, simply because it *can* be labeled as 'furry', by association, is justifiable.

I also -- though I've been guilty of it, and it's VERY hard to not do -- don't think the SA goons should be judged by their group. Bias and cautiousness, perhaps. In other words, if someone is wearing an SA Goons group title, I will likely avoid them, and may watch them a bit closer if they're on my land (of course).

But guilt doesn't occur until there's a crime to be guilty of. Keep in mind I'm part of the group that these guys feel should be eradicated (read: killed) , not only in SL, but in RL.

Nonetheless, they probably -should- be judged as individuals, even though I'd like to operate otherwise.

Uhm, wouldn't a dragon be a 'scaley' instead of a furry?

Where I'm from there aren't many furry communities (if they even exist over here). My SigOther was the one to explain it to me, since he grew up in the U.S. When I first heard of the Furry Community in SL, I just thought of Furry as in "covered in fur". Knowing what the Furry Community is about (in SL or in RL ) doesn't change my opinion of them.

The furries that I've met have been some of the nicest people/creatures/avatars that I've had the pleasure of meeting in SL. When I look at them I don't think of them as part of the Furry Community thing, but as really talented players that have brought a new meaning to the word "cute" to SL. Do not let a bunch of asshats ruin your SL experience. If you leave, who will make the cute blinking animal avatars?

A bit of a thread hijack, but I just wanted to show my support to the SL community.

jesus god they flew my plane into an effigy of the twin towers

and... yep... looks like they left pictures of a bunch of yellowjackets on this guy's wang all over the place!

Yes really. I know what you are saying. Some of SA judged furries as all being alike, just as some people are judging the SA'ers as all being alike.

And its not right in this instance, in that it leads to errors of judgment and the persecution of innocents.

I guess I am pragmatic (vs idealistic) about it. I agree with the idea that groups should not be judged as a whole, but I was saying that is not what typically happens.

Per "Remo law" the furries are innocent since they have committed no crime, thus there can be no guilt by association.

I am happy to see that the Lindens seem to follow Remo law, and are targeting the aggressors here. If a few associated yet innocent SA’ers happen to come under the axe too.. well that is what happens in conflicts (pragmatic again). At least here they can plead their case.

If any innocent SAers got banned I guess you could call it 'colateral damage'. But, hey shit happens in a war.