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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
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11-13-2004 13:18
I'll be selling Eddy tonight in world....Bidding starts at 1$L and if we get above 5 I'll throw in a free cattle prod ....If you win you must post pictures here of your new slave
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Alan Palmerstone
Payment Info Used
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 659
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11-13-2004 13:40
I'll be selling Eddy tonight in world....Bidding starts at 1$L and if we get above 5 I'll throw in a free cattle prod ....If you win you must post pictures here of your new slave ![]() Just make sure Eddy doesn't find out! ![]() |
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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11-13-2004 13:45
This kind of "slavery" is supposed to be:
SAFE SAFE CONSENSUAL And these relationships, like all good relationships actually, are founded on trust and communication. Eddy, there's plenty of information out there about D/s if you're interested. Furthermore, if you have questions, I'm sure some inworld would be more than happy to answer them for you, from their life experience. But this must be approached openminded, and without the conventional framework and limiting parameters of what you *think* a relationship between two (or more) consenting adults might be like. Leave preconceived notions at the door and explore. ![]() Cheers. _____________________
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a lost user
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11-13-2004 14:17
Billy, I didnt give you permission to speak. Consider yourself sold. LOL... You buying Kris? ![]() _____________________
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Shjak Monde
Registered User
Join date: 10 Feb 2004
Posts: 111
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11-13-2004 14:28
I am the Owner Of the Gnossos and 1st boy to Master Kyren Neva and Overseer in Training.
This is a Training School not a free service. There are many ways to pay for this Service. (Speak to Master Kyren Neva) Things that this School offers are as follows: Training in submissiveness and the reasons for the Necessities of Control Study in the different Cultural D/s Lifestyles Breaking of limitations and fears Self confidence of ones abilities to Satisfy their Master/Mistress Needs Creating Fantasies and Roll Playing them The Access to the Gnossos's 33,000 square meter and its Facilities Placement with a Good Master/Mistress The Right to Claim they have been trained at the Gnossos School of Submissive Masters/Mistress may bring their subs/slaves to Master Kyren Neva for Training or Interested students may come to Master Kyren Neva for Training. Ether way there is a cost for this service. All students of this School knows and Understands there is a Cost for this Service. However we have had a few people that are wanting Slaves and Subs for free, they will attempt to whisper in the ears of our kindred, trusting submissive to twist their thoughts and persuade them to leave the school and come with them. Of course any student may leave at any time they feel uncomfortable in the teachings of the school. However their training will stop at that time. They will not receive the lessons that they original requested and they will forfeit the right to claim they have been trained here at the Gnossos. And more then likely wind up with a Very Short Term Relationship with a Unworthy Master/ Mistress and the inability to return to the School. All this is for the In world Roll Playing and everyone that I know here, brothers/sisters of Kyren house are enjoying themselves as they learn. I do worry about anyone that cannot tell the difference between Fantasy and Real Life. |
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Claire Molinari
Registered User
Join date: 14 Sep 2004
Posts: 1
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to Eddy
11-13-2004 15:02
This group is privite for a reason .. to keep close-mind ppl such as yourself out of it. so my advice to you is .. if its not your lifestyle it is none of your bussiness and I will protect this house as i'm a member and protect Master Kyren to the bitter end... this is a game noone is forcing a gun to our heads to play this game in this fashion .. it is our choice
Life is full of choices and it is up to us to set the limits to what we are welling to do in rl and in sl and we dont judge ppl for the choices they make if it doesnt affect us and i cant see that our choice to play this game in this way is in anyway effecting you so you have no right to pass any judgement on this lifesyle and or this house Have a good day |
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Eddy Fatale
Registered User
Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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correection
11-13-2004 15:41
This group is privite for a reason .. to keep close-mind ppl such as yourself out of it. so my advice to you is .. if its not your lifestyle it is none of your bussiness and I will protect this house as i'm a member and protect Master Kyren to the bitter end... this is a game noone is forcing a gun to our heads to play this game in this fashion .. it is our choice Life is full of choices and it is up to us to set the limits to what we are welling to do in rl and in sl and we dont judge ppl for the choices they make if it doesnt affect us and i cant see that our choice to play this game in this way is in anyway effecting you so you have no right to pass any judgement on this lifesyle and or this house Have a good day You may have assumed I have passed judgement upon this house or its Master. But I have not. I fully understand defending this house and its Master as would I do the same if I were a member of one thought to have been attacked. I was simply asking for more information on it , and sharing what I have heard in teh beginning. In my own defense the subs or slaves that were not told of their being a price for them at the end of their training. If I am wrong about that I do appologize with all my heart, and retract any statements that I have made. Also I would like to point out that any and all who read this thread and its posts will percieve it their own way and not always the way it was intended by the person that started it. Am I to believe that there is no RL feelings or thought put into Role playing, ifg that is there isn't then that would make for a very stale dry scene I would think. The key words here are safe and consensua. |
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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11-13-2004 15:54
You may have assumed I have passed judgement upon this house or its Master. But I have not. I fully understand defending this house and its Master as would I do the same if I were a member of one thought to have been attacked. I was simply asking for more information on it , and sharing what I have heard in teh beginning. In my own defense the subs or slaves that were not told of their being a price for them at the end of their training. If I am wrong about that I do appologize with all my heart, and retract any statements that I have made. Also I would like to point out that any and all who read this thread and its posts will percieve it their own way and not always the way it was intended by the person that started it. Am I to believe that there is no RL feelings or thought put into Role playing, ifg that is there isn't then that would make for a very stale dry scene I would think. The key words here are safe and consensua. You have made a transgression sharing rumor on a public forum. It would have been wiser and far more mature to bring your concerns first to Kyren or to one of her house members so you could have your questions answered directly. Kyren is clear and upfront about what she does, it is a core belief of hers that no one should ever walk into this sort of roleplay ignorant and unaware of any aspect of it. Your "key words" are at the very heart of her training. It is apalling to me that you'd be willing to name her publicly while suggesting that she's selling human beings without thier consent. That is tantamount to slander, in my opinion. |
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Madiera Westerburg
waiting for apocolypse :D
Join date: 6 Apr 2004
Posts: 836
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11-13-2004 15:58
why is it that everyone latches on to those words? safe, sane and consensual? its makin it so overused...sorry torley but safe and consensual should be a given..as for sane, why sane? that is just hogwash, i want my bdsm playtime to be as INSANE as possible...i mean think about it...what SANE adult would agree to be "spanked" with an electric paddle? noone i know...therefore its just not really SANE now is it....
Safe Insane and Consensual! WOOHOO _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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11-13-2004 16:09
Don't even get me started on the sheep abusrs in SL.... ![]() For your own sake, plead the Fifth Schwanson! _____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
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11-13-2004 16:11
Eddy,
If you are talking about the Gorean lifestyle, then I can tell you that there are all kinds of complexities of complicity, and you would wear out your brain worrying about them. I am not a Gorean, and indeed, it seems to me to be a very extreme, and it has to be said, to my mind an unhealthy kind of d/s lifestyle. But having said that, if people want to live it, then good luck to them. If people are being sold without the knowledge that this is to happen, it's all part of the deal, and the whole point of their submission is that they submit to *whatever* is done to them. Like it or not, they consent to the lifestyle and everything in it. I think the really unhealthy thing is taking a moral stand against someone else's lifestyle without at least taking the trouble to try to understand it. Sorry, but that's how I feel. _____________________
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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11-13-2004 17:26
why is it that everyone latches on to those words? safe, sane and consensual? its makin it so overused...sorry torley but safe and consensual should be a given..as for sane, why sane? that is just hogwash, i want my bdsm playtime to be as INSANE as possible...i mean think about it...what SANE adult would agree to be "spanked" with an electric paddle? noone i know...therefore its just not really SANE now is it.... Safe Insane and Consensual! WOOHOO Well, Grandma, you are usin' "insane" in a complimentary way like how "crazy" might be used as a term of endearment. Like how I call you a "crazy lady with a heart of gold". But what is meant by "sane" is... well... there are plenty of pages explaining this well. For example, Google turns up:http://members.aol.com/MasterNik/SSC.html People joke about "being insane", but as you know, if someone is clinically insane or under the influence of substances doing destructive things -- not in control of the situation -- it is not funny at all. ![]() _____________________
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Kat Medici
Amused Beauty
Join date: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 26
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You must be kidding.
11-13-2004 23:40
Yes I understand this is a private group. I am only looking for anyone who might have more information about this group. To be honest, I have heard several disturbing things about it. One being is the training and selling of slaves or subs. Is this really true that ppl are being sold off in SL to Matsers or whatever? I will confess my ignorance about the d/s lifestyles so noone can say I am attacking this group. I simply would like to know more about it for personal reasons. IF this is true! Do we really allow the selling of ppl in SL and why? Any information about this will be most appreciated. Thank you all for your patience with me being new and all. I have never met Kyren personally or any of her *trainies* LOL. Personally if this is true I must say I am a little disturbed that this actually goes on in SL when illeagle in RL,tooo funny. If this is not true and ppl aren't being sold then the ppl that are being trained in my opinion should be allowed to pay for their training and not be sold or bought. Thank you all again and I pray this is not what is happening in SL. sSincerely Eddy Fatale Matsers=Masters Noone=no one Illeagle=illegal Tooo=too Trainies=trainees sSincerely=sincerely I give it a C-. Fragmented sentences, illogical conclusions and fanatical reasoning. Not to mention the lack of paragraphs and the punctuation issues. *sigh* One does not argue with the fanatical and alarmist, one simply ignores them and moves on. Btw, Eddy, I didn’t find much sincere about your alarmist comments. Attempting to hide your distain and curiousity under the guise of “personal reasons” is a weak excuse. Why, if I applied the same logic skills that you have used, I could assume that you were turned down for membership in this private club. Have a nice day! |
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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11-14-2004 08:27
*Wanders through this thread confused as hell.*
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Kiamat Dusk
Protest Warrior
Join date: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,525
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Old thread, new life
01-22-2005 00:22
I wanted to bring this all up again because if it weren't for this thread I would never have heard of Kyren or her school.
First some clarification: 1) There is no fee 2) No one is sold After reading this thread initially, I sought Kyren out to get some facts about her school. She invited me over to meet her students and give me an introduction to what she was all about. I had a great visit and thought so highly of her I recommended her to a friend of mine who was wanting to learn more about being a Dominant. He's since had one class with her and is already gaining new confidence as a Dominant. I highly recommend Kyren's school to anyone who is knew to the D/s lifestyle or who may be looking to change roles. _____________________
"My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape." -Bret Easton Ellis 'American Psycho'
"Anger is a gift." -RATM "Freedom" Eat me, you vile waste of food. http://writing.com/authors/suffer |