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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
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11-13-2004 08:16
Yes I understand this is a private group. I am only looking for anyone who might have more information about this group. To be honest, I have heard several disturbing things about it. One being is the training and selling of slaves or subs. Is this really true that ppl are being sold off in SL to Matsers or whatever? I will confess my ignorance about the d/s lifestyles so noone can say I am attacking this group. I simply would like to know more about it for personal reasons. IF this is true! Do we really allow the selling of ppl in SL and why? Any information about this will be most appreciated. Thank you all for your patience with me being new and all. I have never met Kyren personally or any of her *trainies* LOL. Personally if this is true I must say I am a little disturbed that this actually goes on in SL when illeagle in RL,tooo funny. If this is not true and ppl aren't being sold then the ppl that are being trained in my opinion should be allowed to pay for their training and not be sold or bought. Thank you all again and I pray this is not what is happening in SL. sSincerely Eddy Fatale
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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11-13-2004 08:28
I don't know the group you mentioned specifically but there are lots of people who roleplay d/s in SL. The key word there is roleplay. Your post is quite obviously coming from a judgemental place directed at a lifestyle you admit yourself you don't really know anything about. It's not for you or me or anyone else to judge how people choose to spend their second lives. I think you need to elaborate on your "personal reasons" before anyone should provide you with ammunition for your already biased and seemingly condescending point of view. d/s isn't my cuppa, personally, but I strongly believe that people should be free to play out whatever fantasies they wish without fear of being judged or maligned. Unsolicited moralizing is by far the greater evil.
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Madiera Westerburg
waiting for apocolypse :D
Join date: 6 Apr 2004
Posts: 836
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11-13-2004 08:40
from what ive seen, people are sold and bought in rl too eddy, BUT NOT AGAINST THEIR WILL....if that is THEIR choice...what business does anyone have to say what they can ant cant do? i morally oppose abortian too...but far be it for me to say OTHER people cant have the right to make that decision themselves...i think im far more disturbed at school bullies than that...oh well thats just my two cents
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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
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11-13-2004 08:47
If its not your thing why even worry about it. No real people are being bought and sold...just pixels if anything.
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Korg Stygian
Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,105
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11-13-2004 09:30
I was bought in SL for the astounding price pf $1L. I was proud of the selling price.
After prostrating myself and undergoing an unGodly amount of training in bootlicking and groveling, I was allowed to lick teh back of Kris Ritter's knees. Someone else saw the skill with which I preformed this task and I was sold - without my being informed - to someone who prefers to remain nameless at this point. Kris, your check for $1,000,000 is in the mail - and will reach you when the $L=USD ratio is appropriate. My new mistress is quite ecstatic with my attitude and the level of trainig o which you have put me. She said to thank you puiblicly... and so I am. |
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,434
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11-13-2004 09:51
My bf and I bought someone at an auction about a month ago and used them for target practice. It was alot of fun and after awhile we allowed our new little pet to shoot back. Its all good fun as long as the other person is willing.
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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11-13-2004 09:57
What about all those bachelor auctions in RL? Is that slavery?
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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feelings
11-13-2004 11:03
If its not your thing why even worry about it. No real people are being bought and sold...just pixels if anything. Some people like to build....others like to make clothes, and then there are those that like to role play in different groups. true but some ppl get involved under false pretenses and do not know they are being abused ort sold in this case and for someone serious aboutr the lifestyle this can be very detrimental to them and their sdesire to persue it. Very funny LMAO at you and yes I usually mind my oewn business but in this caser it botheresd me that much. |
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Eddy Fatale
Registered User
Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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clarification
11-13-2004 11:12
OK I see I did not make myself clear the first time I usually mind my own business which is why you never see me here. But the ppl being trained and sold are oing into the agreement without the knowleds they are to be sold. If someone wants to be sold to someone else then that is their chioice and I fully respect choice. But to take someone in and then surprise them with the fact they are to be bought is WRONG and deceitful. Point blank
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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11-13-2004 11:14
Eddy,
This is amusing. There is nothing binding anybody in SL from doing what they want to do. Even if you where sold, and changed your mind, you can just walk away. The notion that this is anything at all like RL slavery is laughable. This is role playing. Live and let live.  _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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11-13-2004 11:16
I was bought in SL for the astounding price pf $1L. I was proud of the selling price. After prostrating myself and undergoing an unGodly amount of training in bootlicking and groveling, I was allowed to lick teh back of Kris Ritter's knees. Someone else saw the skill with which I preformed this task and I was sold - without my being informed - to someone who prefers to remain nameless at this point. Kris, your check for $1,000,000 is in the mail - and will reach you when the $L=USD ratio is appropriate. My new mistress is quite ecstatic with my attitude and the level of trainig o which you have put me. She said to thank you puiblicly... and so I am.  |
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Eddy Fatale
Registered User
Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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honor
11-13-2004 11:19
Eddy, This is amusing. There is nothing binding anybody in SL from doing what they want to do. Even if you where sold, and changed your mind, you can just walk away. The notion that this is anything at all like RL slavery is laughable. This is role playing. Live and let live. subs and slaves are too honorable to walk away from an agreement even if they are deceived into it in the first place they feel the need to uphold thier part. |
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Alan Palmerstone
Payment Info Used
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 659
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11-13-2004 11:23
subs and slaves are too honorable to walk away from an agreement even if they are deceived into it in the first place they feel the need to uphold thier part. I thought you were "ignorant of the d/s lifestyle"? And, to the other's point, that IS the roleplay they (you?) have decided upon. |
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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11-13-2004 11:24
subs and slaves are too honorable to walk away from an agreement even if they are deceived into it in the first place they feel the need to uphold thier part. Your argument holds no water, it is still their choice. You do seem to know a bit about it though. What about the people slaying dragons? Aren't dragons endangered in RL? I was shot in Jessie once. Isn't shooting people in RL illegal? I sell several explosive devices at my stores, Call the bomb squad! Don't even get me started on the sheep abusrs in SL....  _____________________
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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not arguing
11-13-2004 11:31
Your argument holds no water, it is still their choice. You do seem to know a bit about it though. What about the people slaying dragons? Aren't dragons endangered in RL? I was shot in Jessie once. Isn't shooting people in RL illegal? I sell several explosive devices at my stores, Call the bomb squad! Don't even get me started on the sheep abusrs in SL.... This is not an argument. I am only expressing my dissapointment in ppl that will deceive other ppl in game. I was under the impressioon this is an open forum and can express my beliefs as well as any other. Evidentily I was misstaken. Therfore I will and have dropped the matter. As long as it is no one IO care about or me then I seriously don't care whether you live die or exist. |
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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11-13-2004 11:33
I seriously don't care whether you live die or exist. Aww. We feel the same way about you, sweetie. |
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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hehe *grins*
11-13-2004 11:46
Aww. We feel the same way about you, sweetie. I never thought otherwise. LOL |
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Digby Boffin
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Join date: 18 Aug 2004
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11-13-2004 11:54
Eddy, perhaps you shoud find out what your speaking of before stepping on the soapbox or the high horse.
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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noted
11-13-2004 12:00
Eddy, perhaps you shoud find out what your speaking of before stepping on the soapbox or the high horse. Pontification has no place here... Oh believe me I am. |
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Nick Fairlight
Humanoid Typhoon
Join date: 19 Jun 2003
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11-13-2004 12:02
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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emote
11-13-2004 12:03
1 word: Ugh. *smiles big* |
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11-13-2004 12:15
I don't know why I am even responding to this thread. The tone is not very conducive to rational conversation but here goes anyways.
submissive's chose the lifestyle and are fully aware of the rules or are taught by their Dom/me. Yes, it is their choice to live their SL lifestyle within the context of these rules. It is worth noting that there are different kinds of submissives one being slaves. A slave knows they are a slave and if sold by their Master moves on and now has a new Master to serve. This is the life the slave chooses and is most happy with the arrangement. This is of course role-playing in SL and of course can just walk away from the community and lifestyle if they wish. _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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11-13-2004 12:33
Billy, I didnt give you permission to speak.
Consider yourself sold. |
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
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exactly
11-13-2004 12:35
I don't know why I am even responding to this thread. The tone is not very conducive to rational conversation but here goes anyways. submissive's chose the lifestyle and are fully aware of the rules or are taught by their Dom/me. Yes, it is their choice to live their SL lifestyle within the context of these rules. It is worth noting that there are different kinds of submissives one being slaves. A slave knows they are a slave and if sold by their Master moves on and now has a new Master to serve. This is the life the slave chooses and is most happy with the arrangement. This is of course role-playing in SL and of course can just walk away from the community and lifestyle if they wish. Thank you Billy. That was my whole point a slave knows what they are into but someone wishing to train as a sub and being sold as a slave is completely differnent in my view and anyone doing so shuld at the very least be up front with the person they are making an agreement with them. |
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Eddy Fatale
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Join date: 19 Sep 2004
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sorry
11-13-2004 12:36
Billy, I didnt give you permission to speak. Consider yourself sold. LOL sorry Billy |