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Khamon Fate
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12-13-2004 16:40
From: Chip Midnight
Assign them randomly. Let it be luck of the draw.


numerous community complaints about this is what prompted them to initiate the pool assignments.
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Chip Midnight
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12-13-2004 16:47
From: Khamon Fate
numerous community complaints about this is what prompted them to initiate the pool assignments.


I realize that. The question is how to allocate the machines permanently. If we've all had good servers or bad ones at various times then no one is more entitled to the best servers than anyone else. So have one last random assigment. There's no way to fairly pick who most deserves to get shafted because no one does, so LL shouldn't single out a certain group. Random is the only fair way. Everyone had an equal chance to get the best or the worst. After that we live with it.
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Moleculor Satyr
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12-13-2004 16:57
From: Chip Midnight
I realize that. The question is how to allocate the machines permanently. If we've all had good servers or bad ones at various times then no one is more entitled to the best servers than anyone else. So have one last random assigment. There's no way to fairly pick who most deserves to get shafted because no one does, so LL shouldn't single out a certain group. Random is the only fair way. Everyone had an equal chance to get the best or the worst. After that we live with it.


No, random is not fair.

I bought my land pre-lotto. There was a set amount of performance available. Now it's random. If I get that "one last lotto" then I'm basically getting the chance to be shafted even worse. I'd MUCH rather have my old sim back, or one just like it.

The proposed system will give me one just like it, or even better. And I like those odds.
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Lord Palmerstone
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12-13-2004 17:15
From: FlipperPA Peregrine

Only the hyperthreaded and new Opteron servers have given significant increase in sim performance, allow new and exciting forms of content to be delivered. The old machines simply don't deliver in the SL 1.5.x world.


Opterons? Damn. I am interested if the Lindens would elaborate on the current classes of sims. Last I heard they were using P4 2.8's, but that was from Philip at a late spring/early summer townhall. Obviously hardware has changed since then, but do the Lindens really need 64-bit servers?

I mean, if the old stuff are P4 2.26, and the new stuff is whatever-speed 64-bit Opterons, then yeah, make it all 32 or make it all 64. Or hope and pray that by the time SL's server infrastructure requires 64 they've phased out the Pentiums.
Chip Midnight
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12-13-2004 17:21
From: Moleculor Satyr
No, random is not fair.

I bought my land pre-lotto. There was a set amount of performance available. Now it's random. If I get that "one last lotto" then I'm basically getting the chance to be shafted even worse. I'd MUCH rather have my old sim back, or one just like it.


Oh I see. It's fair as long as it's someone else who gets the slowest machines. That's not fairness. It's self interest.
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12-13-2004 17:33
From: Lord Palmerstone
do the Lindens really need 64-bit servers?

No, but they do need fast servers, and Opterons also happen to be very quick at executing 32-bit code.
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12-13-2004 17:57
From: Chip Midnight
Oh I see. It's fair as long as it's someone else who gets the slowest machines. That's not fairness. It's self interest.


Perhaps the three or four times I've said it isn't enough...

I'm living in Magenta. I'm going to be getting the "short" end of the stick right along with you. How is that "self-interest"?
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Chip Midnight
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12-13-2004 19:12
From: Moleculor Satyr
How is that "self-interest"?


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If I get that "one last lotto" then I'm basically getting the chance to be shafted even worse. I'd MUCH rather have my old sim back, or one just like it.


If you don't care if you get one of the slowest servers how can you get shafted even worse?
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12-13-2004 19:33
From: Chip Midnight
If you don't care if you get one of the slowest servers how can you get shafted even worse?


I do care. But I'd rather have a fair system that makes sense, rather than one that isn't and doesn't.

That said, I'm still not getting the slowest of the servers. No one is. The void sims are.
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Khamon Fate
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12-13-2004 19:49
From: Chip Midnight
I realize that. The question is how to allocate the machines permanently. If we've all had good servers or bad ones at various times then no one is more entitled to the best servers than anyone else. So have one last random assigment. There's no way to fairly pick who most deserves to get shafted because no one does, so LL shouldn't single out a certain group. Random is the only fair way. Everyone had an equal chance to get the best or the worst. After that we live with it.


oh i see. will the upgrade path still replace the oldest with the newest?
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12-13-2004 20:26
From: Moleculor Satyr
I do care. But I'd rather have a fair system that makes sense, rather than one that isn't and doesn't.


Okay. I got ya. I just don't see it as fair.
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