Second Life Forums Archive - Sandbox Shouldn't be Connected to Mainland

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

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12-28-2003 16:51

I don't think the Sandbox should be connected to the mainland. No, prims are not flying into the veichle sims. Here's why I think this:

The world is set up to have urban (heavily populated) and rural (unpopulated) areas by placing telehubs accordingly, right? Well, no one's LIVING in Cardova (well, not normal people) so why should we have to take that long fly when we could just teleport there if it's not connected to the rest of the grid? If it's not connected it wouldn't mess with the urban/rural thing, and we could just go there without flying. This would save MUCH time.

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Dave Zeeman

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12-28-2003 17:47

Agreed. The Island sim should be our new sandbox.

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Gwydeon Nomad

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12-29-2003 00:56

Or just move Cordova out away from the mainland and drop a telehub on it somewhere.

Derek Jones

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Join date: 18 Mar 2003

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12-29-2003 07:28

I think it is a complete joy to fly out to the sandbox from the telehub by plane. Its great to see the world created while in a plane!

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Gwydeon Nomad

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12-30-2003 09:41

Dude its just the sand box. Watch some other land get created

Garoad Kuroda

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Posts: 2,989

12-31-2003 02:14

I'm not sure if that was a joke or not, flying over six essentially empty sims isn't exactly the scenic route.

Yeah I say pull the plug on that thing and stick it somewhere else. Or even just leave it where it is and add a telehub.

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

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01-02-2004 14:18

Bump

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Kex Godel

Master Slacker

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 869

01-03-2004 02:21

I agree with this.

When I first saw the Island sim, this same thought occurred to me, in combination with what I seen happen in the 1.2 preview world.

We need somewhere to test things that may go completely bonkers (ie alife), and currently we have nowhere to do so safely.

We also need a faster way to get to the sandbox sim.

If Cordova were moved somewhere isolated like the Island sim is, that would be great.

I can't think of any downside to this...

Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

01-03-2004 06:27

Yes, free the sandbox!

It kinda feels like a bas**** sim, kinda thrown waaayyy down at the bottom underneath the racing ones where it takes you atleast 1-2 mins to get to the thing, not counting if you get lost like me sometimes, lol.

Seperate it, give it its own telehub in a corner of it or something, don't want the telehub getting in the way etc.

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Christopher Omega

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Join date: 28 Mar 2003

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01-04-2004 00:52

I totally agree. I currently reside mostly in Tan and Olive, and getting to the sandbox located *that* south is very very cumbersome. I say, seperate it from the grid and put a telehub in some corner.

Island would've be a good location for a sandbox, save that the entirety is no-build no-script.

Carnildo Greenacre

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Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,044

01-04-2004 00:57

For a little while, Island had a buildable section, and I agree, it makes a pretty good sandbox.

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Ghoulie Skallagrimson

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01-04-2004 18:27

I agree, as well.

Pendari Lorentz

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01-05-2004 07:17

Love this idea... just posting for support.

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Nexus Nash

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01-05-2004 07:34

I agree.. move it to an island

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Rhysling Greenacre

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Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 132

01-05-2004 19:21

I agree. When working on mobile and/or self-replicating prims you really don't want them to escape!

However, can't this be worked around by tagging the objects as Sandbox only?

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

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01-25-2004 09:04

BUMP!! PLEASE!

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Guzar Fonzarelli

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Join date: 8 Jan 2004

Posts: 40

01-25-2004 11:07

Also, horrible experiments from the sandbox couldn't leak out into the rest of SL.

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Relee Baysklef

Irresistable Squirrel

Join date: 18 Sep 2003

Posts: 360

01-25-2004 12:07

Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

I want to make an extra suggestion, of a second sim right next to the detached cardova.

This sim will be the MAD SCIENCE sim!

I moved into Mocha a long time ago because it was right next to Olive, the sandbox, and I loved waking up in SL and hearing or seeing something wierd in the air above Olive and wondering, "What in the heck is going on?" and flying over to have a great time playing with the sandbox gang.

I want that back, but currently I can't live anywhere near Cardova.

I know I'm not the only mad scientist who lived and/or lives in Mocha. I would gladly pack up and move to a new sim if one opened up next to the sandbox.

So there's my idea. It would be a niche sim like Jessie. Catering to us wierdos who want to live next to the sandbox.

Christopher Omega

Oxymoron

Join date: 28 Mar 2003

Posts: 1,828

01-25-2004 13:52

From: someone

Originally posted by Relee Baysklef
So there's my idea. It would be a niche sim like Jessie. Catering to us wierdos who want to live next to the sandbox.

:drool: YESSSS!

<-- Would give up all my current land holdings to live in the Mad Science sim

Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

01-25-2004 14:54

Why dont you just live IN the sandbox?
Yeah, it gets wiped, but so what. Box up your house and set it up to autorez when you get to Cardova. The rezzor could be an attached prim that unlinks itself, like that gun you can fire on nobuild land, and after being fired it autorezzes everything.
Or you could just pull it out of your inventory manually, but wheres the fun in THAT?

Relee Baysklef

Irresistable Squirrel

Join date: 18 Sep 2003

Posts: 360

01-26-2004 05:38

From: someone

Originally posted by Eggy Lippmann
Why dont you just live IN the sandbox?
Yeah, it gets wiped, but so what. Box up your house and set it up to autorez when you get to Cardova. The rezzor could be an attached prim that unlinks itself, like that gun you can fire on nobuild land, and after being fired it autorezzes everything.
Or you could just pull it out of your inventory manually, but wheres the fun in THAT?

I was going to do something like that but the Lindens asked me not to.

They insist that any player builds on linden land will be deleted, and asked me not to make any undeleteable structures, even though I can.

Maxx Monde

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01-26-2004 05:51

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Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

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01-31-2004 16:12

...bump.

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Buckminster Hamilton

One Cool Cat

Join date: 27 Dec 2003

Posts: 10

01-31-2004 18:07

I'm going to be in the minority and vote that the sandbox stay just as it is. I believe that the fact it takes a couple minutes to get there cuts down on random traffic, which brings more people who do annoying things, like rez a dozen 10x10 cubes then leave. Any alternative that puts a teleport platform in Cardova is going to make it harder to work there.

Relee Baysklef

Irresistable Squirrel

Join date: 18 Sep 2003

Posts: 360

02-01-2004 10:49

Cardova is way too cluttered these days. People fill the bowl with so much crap that you can't move around properly, and just leave it there. I'm glad that someone put those three new tiers up, with the elevator. That was some good thinking!

Sandbox Shouldn't be Connected to Mainland
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	12-28-2003 16:51 I don't think the Sandbox should be connected to the mainland. No, prims are not flying into the veichle sims. Here's why I think this: The world is set up to have urban (heavily populated) and rural (unpopulated) areas by placing telehubs accordingly, right? Well, no one's LIVING in Cardova (well, not normal people) so why should we have to take that long fly when we could just teleport there if it's not connected to the rest of the grid? If it's not connected it wouldn't mess with the urban/rural thing, and we could just go there without flying. This would save MUCH time. _____________________ Touche.
Dave Zeeman Master Procrastinator Join date: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1,025	12-28-2003 17:47 Agreed. The Island sim should be our new sandbox. _____________________ llToggleDaveZeemanIntelligence(FALSE); Philip Linden: Zeeman, strip off the suit! Dave Zeeman - Keeping Lindens on their toes since v0.3.2!
Gwydeon Nomad Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 480	12-29-2003 00:56 Or just move Cordova out away from the mainland and drop a telehub on it somewhere.
Derek Jones SL's Second Oldest Monkey Join date: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 668	12-29-2003 07:28 I think it is a complete joy to fly out to the sandbox from the telehub by plane. Its great to see the world created while in a plane! _____________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one
Gwydeon Nomad Registered User Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 480	12-30-2003 09:41 Dude its just the sand box. Watch some other land get created
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	12-31-2003 02:14 I'm not sure if that was a joke or not, flying over six essentially empty sims isn't exactly the scenic route. Yeah I say pull the plug on that thing and stick it somewhere else. Or even just leave it where it is and add a telehub. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	01-02-2004 14:18 Bump _____________________ Touche.
Kex Godel Master Slacker Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 869	01-03-2004 02:21 I agree with this. When I first saw the Island sim, this same thought occurred to me, in combination with what I seen happen in the 1.2 preview world. We need somewhere to test things that may go completely bonkers (ie alife), and currently we have nowhere to do so safely. We also need a faster way to get to the sandbox sim. If Cordova were moved somewhere isolated like the Island sim is, that would be great. I can't think of any downside to this...
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	01-03-2004 06:27 Yes, free the sandbox! It kinda feels like a bas**** sim, kinda thrown waaayyy down at the bottom underneath the racing ones where it takes you atleast 1-2 mins to get to the thing, not counting if you get lost like me sometimes, lol. Seperate it, give it its own telehub in a corner of it or something, don't want the telehub getting in the way etc. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	01-04-2004 00:52 I totally agree. I currently reside mostly in Tan and Olive, and getting to the sandbox located that south is very very cumbersome. I say, seperate it from the grid and put a telehub in some corner. Island would've be a good location for a sandbox, save that the entirety is no-build no-script.
Carnildo Greenacre Flight Engineer Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,044	01-04-2004 00:57 For a little while, Island had a buildable section, and I agree, it makes a pretty good sandbox. _____________________ perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++;'
Ghoulie Skallagrimson Member Join date: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 37	01-04-2004 18:27 I agree, as well.
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	01-05-2004 07:17 Love this idea... just posting for support. _____________________ hugs everyone
Nexus Nash Undercover Linden Join date: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 1,084	01-05-2004 07:34 I agree.. move it to an island _____________________ Nexus Nash Co-Founder GigasSecondServer AzureIslands Proposals Proposal 1165 - Inventory Shortcuts
Rhysling Greenacre Registered User Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 132	01-05-2004 19:21 I agree. When working on mobile and/or self-replicating prims you really don't want them to escape! However, can't this be worked around by tagging the objects as Sandbox only?
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	01-25-2004 09:04 BUMP!! PLEASE! _____________________ Touche.
Guzar Fonzarelli Ultrapantsy Join date: 8 Jan 2004 Posts: 40	01-25-2004 11:07 Also, horrible experiments from the sandbox couldn't leak out into the rest of SL. _____________________ (Bad_CRC) I went to the hospital today, and it's called "olmstead medical group" so the whole place had "OMG OMG OMG" all over it.
Relee Baysklef Irresistable Squirrel Join date: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 360	01-25-2004 12:07 Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! I want to make an extra suggestion, of a second sim right next to the detached cardova. This sim will be the MAD SCIENCE sim! I moved into Mocha a long time ago because it was right next to Olive, the sandbox, and I loved waking up in SL and hearing or seeing something wierd in the air above Olive and wondering, "What in the heck is going on?" and flying over to have a great time playing with the sandbox gang. I want that back, but currently I can't live anywhere near Cardova. I know I'm not the only mad scientist who lived and/or lives in Mocha. I would gladly pack up and move to a new sim if one opened up next to the sandbox. So there's my idea. It would be a niche sim like Jessie. Catering to us wierdos who want to live next to the sandbox.
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	01-25-2004 13:52 From: someone Originally posted by Relee Baysklef So there's my idea. It would be a niche sim like Jessie. Catering to us wierdos who want to live next to the sandbox. :drool: YESSSS! <-- Would give up all my current land holdings to live in the Mad Science sim
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	01-25-2004 14:54 Why dont you just live IN the sandbox? Yeah, it gets wiped, but so what. Box up your house and set it up to autorez when you get to Cardova. The rezzor could be an attached prim that unlinks itself, like that gun you can fire on nobuild land, and after being fired it autorezzes everything. Or you could just pull it out of your inventory manually, but wheres the fun in THAT?
Relee Baysklef Irresistable Squirrel Join date: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 360	01-26-2004 05:38 From: someone Originally posted by Eggy Lippmann Why dont you just live IN the sandbox? Yeah, it gets wiped, but so what. Box up your house and set it up to autorez when you get to Cardova. The rezzor could be an attached prim that unlinks itself, like that gun you can fire on nobuild land, and after being fired it autorezzes everything. Or you could just pull it out of your inventory manually, but wheres the fun in THAT? I was going to do something like that but the Lindens asked me not to. They insist that any player builds on linden land will be deleted, and asked me not to make any undeleteable structures, even though I can.
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	01-26-2004 05:51 deleted
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	01-31-2004 16:12 ...bump. _____________________ Touche.
Buckminster Hamilton One Cool Cat Join date: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 10	01-31-2004 18:07 I'm going to be in the minority and vote that the sandbox stay just as it is. I believe that the fact it takes a couple minutes to get there cuts down on random traffic, which brings more people who do annoying things, like rez a dozen 10x10 cubes then leave. Any alternative that puts a teleport platform in Cardova is going to make it harder to work there.
Relee Baysklef Irresistable Squirrel Join date: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 360	02-01-2004 10:49 Cardova is way too cluttered these days. People fill the bowl with so much crap that you can't move around properly, and just leave it there. I'm glad that someone put those three new tiers up, with the elevator. That was some good thinking!

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