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03-07-2005 09:45
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I corrected your grammar.

LOL... WTG... it was a test... you passed with flying colors... I'm so proud of you!!! :o
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03-07-2005 10:29
so a thread about how people getting murdered is horrible has turned into personal attacks and the same old round in circles pointless arguments about pointless shit. only in SL?

for the person who started this tho.....what did you think was going to happen by watching a man get his head sawed off? common sense says youre not coming out of that a happier better person. think next time.

can this thread please die since it's not benefiting anybody? it's going to end up locked in the end anyways.
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03-07-2005 10:38
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03-07-2005 10:49
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Hitler would have loved you Neehai and we would all be speaking German right now.

Just for kicks... how about telling us when you would support war?

Everybody loves me. This is not news.

When would I support a war? Well for starters when we had a real plan to go to war. I would also support a war if we were attacked. I would support a war if we had real evidence of an imminent threat to the United States.

There are lots of other reasons that generally involve bad fashion and bad cinema. I won't get into specifics.
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03-07-2005 10:55
From: Neehai Zapata
Everybody loves me. This is not news.

When would I support a war? Well for starters when we had a real plan to go to war. I would also support a war if we were attacked. I would support a war if we had real evidence of an imminent threat to the United States.

There are lots of other reasons that generally involve bad fashion and bad cinema. I won't get into specifics.

So... under those conditions it is perfectly ok to kill innocent civilians.

illogical... illogical... does not compute... your comment will self distruct in 5 minutes!!!

Oops... Your argument just fell apart! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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03-07-2005 11:12
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So... under those conditions it is perfectly ok to kill innocent civilians.

It is never perfectly okay to kill innocent civilians.

It is also not perfectly okay to kill the wrong "brown-skinned" people when choosing a war.
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03-07-2005 11:14
Is repetitive spelled with an 'h' or is that rhetorical?
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03-07-2005 11:18
From: Neehai Zapata
It is never perfectly okay to kill innocent civilians.

HAHAHAHA... ok... I'll play... exactly how do you propose to have a war... that you support mind you... and not kill ANY innocent civilians???

I'll answer that one for you Neehai... YOU CAN"T. War is ugly but sometimes is the only answer. I said it before & will say it again... the terrorists will not just somehow have a change of heart and just go away.
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03-07-2005 12:26
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HAHAHAHA... ok... I'll play... exactly how do you propose to have a war... that you support mind you... and not kill ANY innocent civilians???

Well for starters, you shoudl invade the right country. That makes things a lot easier.

Just because it is never acceptable to kill innocent civilians does not mean it is possible. It is a goal. Sort of like balancing the budget, only harder.
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03-07-2005 12:27
Indeed, that is hard work.
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03-07-2005 12:29
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I said it before & will say it again... the terrorists will not just somehow have a change of heart and just go away.

The terrorists where? I'm so confused these days.
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03-07-2005 12:30
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Indeed, that is hard work.

ROFL!
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03-07-2005 12:35
From: Neehai Zapata
Well for starters, you shoudl invade the right country. That makes things a lot easier.

Just because it is never acceptable to kill innocent civilians does not mean it is possible. It is a goal. Sort of like balancing the budget, only harder.

In other words... I am right... ty Neehai for that verification. You CAN NOT have a war in which innocent civilians are not killed.

Ok... so if it is the "right" country then you are OK with killing innocent civilians. bzzzzzzz wrong again... Justification for said war is immaterial... innocent civilians are still innocent any way you slice it. Your argument is still illogical and invalid.

You support killing your innocent civilians for the war of your choosing... but whine and bitch at everyone else for the same thing just because you do not believe in the cause. That is hypocritical.

At least we agree that avoiding killing of innocent civilians durring a war is not possible and that you disagree with your own post. I look forward to never hearing that argument again. Next topic.
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03-07-2005 13:16
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In other words... I am right... ty Neehai for that verification. You CAN NOT have a war in which innocent civilians are not killed.

Ok... so if it is the "right" country then you are OK with killing innocent civilians. bzzzzzzz wrong again... Justification for said war is immaterial... innocent civilians are still innocent any way you slice it. Your argument is still illogical and invalid.

You support killing your innocent civilians for the war of your choosing... but whine and bitch at everyone else for the same thing just because you do not believe in the cause. That is hypocritical.

At least we agree that avoiding killing of innocent civilians durring a war is not possible and that you disagree with your own post. I look forward to never hearing that argument again. Next topic.

No, you are not correct. It is never acceptable to kill innocent civilians.

However, it is understandable if you are in a justifiable war.

I know you want to be correct, but you're not.
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03-07-2005 13:31
From: Neehai Zapata
No, you are not correct. It is never acceptable to kill innocent civilians.

However, it is understandable if you are in a justifiable war.

I know you want to be correct, but you're not.

As much as you want to have it both ways... you cant... you support war under your own conditions... one which includes killing innocent civilians... then turn around and say that killing innocent civilians is "never acceptable". You can't use that argument only when it suits you yet discard it when you want to attack someone else. Try again.
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03-07-2005 13:36
It is never acceptable to kill innocent civilians, especially in an unjustified war. It's not that difficult a concept to understand.

You can't just murder people because they are brown-skinned. It's not right.
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03-07-2005 13:36
Neither one of you are correct but you are both RIGHT!

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03-07-2005 13:41
From: Billy Grace
Oh, to add one thought, why is there so much outrage against Abu Ghraib yet very little outrage against the beheading if civilians? The majority of liberals and their liberal slanted media will do anything to bring down President Bush and the beheadings only strengthen the reasons why we are there is why. The mentality is that it is perfectly fine to sacrifice this war as long as President Bush looks bad. Just an observation.


Cruelty and torture are never acceptible in my books. However, the outrage over the incidents at Abu Ghraib make perfect sense to me. In the US (and Canada), we tend to pride ourselves on our ideals of equality, fairness, compassion, and human rights. We also tend to view certain other cultures in a less favourable light, rightly or wrongly. So obviously, it is going to be more shocking to us when 'the good guys' do something horrible, than when 'the bad guys' do something horrible.

Seriously, what would outrage you more: a hardened criminal murdering an innocent family, or a decorated police officer murdering an innocent family?

It's horrifying to us, because it's not the villains commiting the atrocity, but instead the ones who are supposed to be 'the good guys'. Even worse, they're our good guys (well, your good guys, I'm Canadian, but you know what I mean).
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03-07-2005 14:16
From: Zuzi Martinez
so a thread about how people getting murdered is horrible has turned into personal attacks and the same old round in circles pointless arguments about pointless shit. only in SL?

for the person who started this tho.....what did you think was going to happen by watching a man get his head sawed off? common sense says youre not coming out of that a happier better person. think next time.

can this thread please die since it's not benefiting anybody? it's going to end up locked in the end anyways.



hmmm...didnt mean for it to be that way...but you must not have read every reply...because you ask why i would watch...well flip back and read where me and jsecure chat.

i tell you that i have faces of death...when animals attack...other media material of the like. im not real sure why i downloaded it to watch...i downloaded other things as well....stuffed banned in US....maybe just to say...yah i saw that.

i didnt know the particular choice or method on how they did decapitate him. i freaked over it....and teared up, which isnt much like me.

your rite about some of the things we chat about here on forums...somethings are pointless and i will take your advice and think next time...... but not sure exactly why you wanted to get in on this post and write in the manner of which exactly you express displeasure of.

anyhoo....the reason i started the thread...was to tell my SL family...which includes you...how much i do care about you all inspite of the pointlessness and the arugments and lack of common sense. thru it all...i do care about you guys as much as my rl family and thought it would be good for me and the forum to express it.

if we went on to debate somethings and bring up some issues that sooooo aggervate some of you and piss off the rest....HELL YA....we are exercising something good in all ways even if on surface parts may read bad.

i try to be better....wanna join me?
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03-07-2005 14:48
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Neither one of you are correct but you are both RIGHT!

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Hey! Watch it with the personal attacks!
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