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Pol Tabla

synthpop saint

Join date: 18 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,041

03-28-2005 22:28

I'm on a modest single-processor Macintosh G4 with a Radeon 9000 Pro, and crashing is rare enough to be statistically never.

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

03-29-2005 00:43

If you're talking actual crashes which recognise themselves as such - 1 every 4 hours or so.

If you're talking about stuff that inexplicably drops you to desktop, terminates the task and doesnt recognise there was ever an error, 1 every 2 hours or so.

If you're including things I have to log out and back in for, like freezing, locking up, attachments sticking, stuff not rezzing etc. then 1 every 10 minutes or so.

Etoile Parvenu

She Came from the Stars

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 44

03-29-2005 04:53

I picked every 10 minutes because I've had "can barely stay online" times and "crashes every few hours" times. Most of the time I have to manually end the task. Then again, my computer is a Dell laptop and I'm using a wireless connection from far away, so that could be contributing to the issue.

Reitsuki Kojima

Witchhunter

Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,328

03-29-2005 04:59

No answer really fits.

I crash every 1-2 days, probably. Normally, it's doing something stupid like moving at extremely high speed through extremely congested areas and getting a texture overload or something. I rarely just 'up and crash', as it were.

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Maxx Monde

Registered User

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,848

03-29-2005 05:07

I used to have a bunch of problems with ATI, switched to NVIDIA and I don't crash in game, hardly ever. Maybe once a month or something like that - but unrelated to video, usually something funky happening in the sim, or my ISP mangling traffic.

Zonax Delorean

Registered User

Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 767

03-29-2005 05:20

From: Alan Edison

he laughed at me when i said i wanted a floppy drive in it... he protested that no1 uses them nemore... i tell u wot mr, if u play this game.. SHOVE A FLOPPY UP UR ARSE!!!!!!!!! ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact, he was right. A year ago, my floppy disk drive was broken for months. I didn't really notice nor worried about it. I have no idea when I used a floppy last time. Either the net or a rewritable CD, or a pendrive.

Anyway, about SL: I kept crashing a lot with my new computer, but I tend to blame it either on bad RAM (that's a very likely cause) or SL version before 1.5 and ATI drivers.

Beau Perkins

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Join date: 25 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,061

03-29-2005 05:32

My computer is far from state of the art, Celeron processor and I crash maybe once a week.

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Kathy Yamamoto

Publisher and Surrealist

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 615

03-29-2005 07:52

Well, I crash a couple times a night. Maybe a bit more I have a Mac dual G5 with a Radeon of high enough number that I don’t bother remembering it.

However, I do have to say that the crashes almost always come when I am flying from a telehub (loading new – possibly corrupt – textures) or when I am flying at 20 – 40 meters/sec in a vehicle across sim borders. If I stick to well known neighborhoods, and slow down a bit, I almost never crash.

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Tcoz Bach

Tyrell Victim

Join date: 10 Dec 2002

Posts: 973

03-29-2005 08:29

Oddly enough, I recently introduced SL at a shop I'm working with, with the intent of seeing what a digital media group that's really Flash/Actionscript, UI and framework savvy would do with SL. Six people, all experienced digital media artists, everybody runs a high end machine (though all ATI equipped, and SL + ATI makes me nervous). Anyway, they all crash constantly, I was sort of shocked, though once I got them all to shut off bump mapping and lighting the problem seemed a lot better (though not fixed). Today we try it on a decent Mac for a little while to see how that goes.

One guy even has some super duper alienware machine allegedly completely tricked out for 3d gaming, and SL takes it down. The guy seems to know what he's talking about, 3d hardware mags piled up all over the place, good with 3d studio max and all.

At home on nVidia with a decent (not super at all by today's standards anymore) machine I don't think I've crashed SL hard in months (logoffs usually equal being thrown off the grid or a bad tp etc.). Same with my laptop, nVida equipped, other than that not too fancy, and I don't think I've ever seen it burn down.

SL also seems to be falsely detecting some driver settings. It constantly throws a request for a chip bios upgrade or some such and the two machines we see it on appear to have the most recent version already.

Well this'll all get better with 1.6...right?

If anybody is curious what they thought, they love it, though define working with it as "often frustrating". However if anybody has worked with the past two or so versions of Flash, that's nostalgic.

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Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

03-29-2005 09:46

17" Powerbook G4 1.33 GHz with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600.

Crashes happen so infrequently as to be approaching never.

I did crash once last week whilst jetpack-ing across the new sims, but it was the first time in months.

Kathmandu Gilman

Fearful Symmetry Baby!

Join date: 21 May 2004

Posts: 1,418

03-29-2005 10:10

Mine lies between never and once every 4 hours so I picked never. That happened when I went from ATI to Nvidia. When I had the ATI 9800 pro it was every 15 minuts, with the Nvidia 6600gt almost never.

Starley Thereian

More Cowbell!

Join date: 1 Jun 2004

Posts: 330

03-29-2005 10:25

I can sometimes go weeks without a single crash, but then I'll have cycles of days or weeks where I crash so frequently I don't know why I bother coming online. I've been in the crash stage for about 2 weeks now and it's driving me bonkers. My record is something like 18 crashes in about 2 hours.

P4 3.0Ghz
1MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 pro 128MB

I've got a new computer on order that will hopefully clear this up.

Madame Maracas

Not who you think I am...

Join date: 7 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,953

Not quite really "Never" but certainly not every 4 hours!

03-29-2005 10:32

Reboots happen about every 5 hours or so due to the need to clear caches for Skype while I'm streaming RadioRadio. Skype goes to hell in a handbasket, everyone sounding like they're drunk AND underwater

, and while that's highly amusing-sounding, it makes for tough communications.

- If I'm not running the station, I don't need to reboot unless I'm in and out of Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign all day, those caches just won't clear otherwise! -

Reboot/relog due to bad tp's, sim crashes, the attachments not showing/still showing/won't attach fix type stuff happens, maybe once every 40 hours in world I think.

Real honest-to-Linden crashes, computer locked up, drive light flashing it's dying embers, that's maybe once a month (1/1,200 hrs), if that, I suspect more like 1/2,400 hrs in-world.

I run Norton (updated everytime), AdAware & defrag my drive EVERY night when I do my last reboot before letting the station roll while I sleep. I clear my SL caches about once a week or more often if stuff is getting sticky.

Last week, my ISP was being a %^&* and my overall performance was horrendous, but mostly I couldn't get into SL so that doesn't count toward your survey. They fixed whatever it was and things are steadily better.

My lil beastie was born Dec 2003:
Dimension 8300 Series Intel Pent 4, 2.8 GHz HT
512 MB DDR SDRAM @ 400MHz (want to bump that to 1.5 gig soon, but for Illustrator, SL's fine)
128MB DDR NVidia GeForce FX 5200
120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive 7200 RPM

My monitor, which I LOVE, is an Iiyama Vision Master Pro 400, it's about 5 1/2 yrs old.

My system has breathing space, is lovingly used daily, worshipped often and pleases me always.

I have a 3" high pewter replica of the Flat Iron building in NYC on top of my monitor. I find that helps.

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Agatha Palmerstone

Space Girl

Join date: 23 Jan 2005

Posts: 185

03-29-2005 11:08

I'm running an Athlon thunderbird 1.8 ghz
512 Mb PC 133, not DDR
Geforce FX 5200

I crash to desktop about every 2 hours or so, but have to relog much more frequently.

Chandra Page

Build! Code. Sleep?

Join date: 7 Oct 2004

Posts: 360

03-29-2005 12:39

I used to crash pretty much all the time, especially when rotating the camera quickly. Entering or leaving the Appearance window, with its whiplash-inducing camera spin, was a guaranteed way to drop me straight to the desktop. It took me about three hours of editing and crashing and editing again to build my avatar for the first time on Orientation Island; if I hadn't been impossibly stubborn and pushed through to the mainland, I'd probably not be in SL today.

A few months ago, I ran across the Omega drivers, which have completely solved my crashing problem. I haven't experienced an actual client crash in ages. Unless a teleport goes bad or I get stuck while attempting to fly over a sim border at Mach 12, which require me to manually relog, I stay in-world indefinitely without problems. I'm certain that the Omega drivers won't solve everyone's crashing problems with SL (there are simply too many possible combinations of hardware out there), but they've been a genuine godsend for me.

My machine's a reasonable gaming rig that's about a generation and a half behind current state-of-the-art: 2.53 GHz Pentium, 1 GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card.

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Agatha Palmerstone

Space Girl

Join date: 23 Jan 2005

Posts: 185

03-29-2005 20:11

From: Chandra Page

A few months ago, I ran across the Omega drivers, which have completely solved my crashing problem.

Thank you!

Sox Rampal

Slinky Vagabond

Join date: 10 Sep 2004

Posts: 338

03-29-2005 20:21

MORE accurate would have been......How often to you re-log?

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Rickard Roentgen

Renaissance Punk

Join date: 4 Apr 2004

Posts: 1,869

03-30-2005 01:05

not quite never but then I overclock too much

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I crash maybe once every 2 weeks.

GeForce 6800 GT (AGP)
Asus A7N8X Deluxe
Athlon XP 2500+ (OC'd to 2.3 Ghz, 200FSB)
3 sticks generic 3200+ ddr

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Nikolaii Uritsky

Filthy Old Man

Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 671

03-30-2005 09:46

From: Prokofy Neva

I know many, many people experience crashes and lock-ups because I see them relogging all night long, over and over again, every 30 minutes. In fact, to give someone your calling card is merely to give them a constant in-your-face visible reminder of their constant crashes and reloggings.

SORRY! XD

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How often do you crash per hour?
Pol Tabla synthpop saint Join date: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,041	03-28-2005 22:28 I'm on a modest single-processor Macintosh G4 with a Radeon 9000 Pro, and crashing is rare enough to be statistically never. _____________________
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	03-29-2005 00:43 If you're talking actual crashes which recognise themselves as such - 1 every 4 hours or so. If you're talking about stuff that inexplicably drops you to desktop, terminates the task and doesnt recognise there was ever an error, 1 every 2 hours or so. If you're including things I have to log out and back in for, like freezing, locking up, attachments sticking, stuff not rezzing etc. then 1 every 10 minutes or so.
Etoile Parvenu She Came from the Stars Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 44	03-29-2005 04:53 I picked every 10 minutes because I've had "can barely stay online" times and "crashes every few hours" times. Most of the time I have to manually end the task. Then again, my computer is a Dell laptop and I'm using a wireless connection from far away, so that could be contributing to the issue.
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	03-29-2005 04:59 No answer really fits. I crash every 1-2 days, probably. Normally, it's doing something stupid like moving at extremely high speed through extremely congested areas and getting a texture overload or something. I rarely just 'up and crash', as it were. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	03-29-2005 05:07 I used to have a bunch of problems with ATI, switched to NVIDIA and I don't crash in game, hardly ever. Maybe once a month or something like that - but unrelated to video, usually something funky happening in the sim, or my ISP mangling traffic.
Zonax Delorean Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 767	03-29-2005 05:20 From: Alan Edison he laughed at me when i said i wanted a floppy drive in it... he protested that no1 uses them nemore... i tell u wot mr, if u play this game.. SHOVE A FLOPPY UP UR ARSE!!!!!!!!! ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact, he was right. A year ago, my floppy disk drive was broken for months. I didn't really notice nor worried about it. I have no idea when I used a floppy last time. Either the net or a rewritable CD, or a pendrive. Anyway, about SL: I kept crashing a lot with my new computer, but I tend to blame it either on bad RAM (that's a very likely cause) or SL version before 1.5 and ATI drivers.
Beau Perkins Second Life Resident. Join date: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,061	03-29-2005 05:32 My computer is far from state of the art, Celeron processor and I crash maybe once a week. _____________________
Kathy Yamamoto Publisher and Surrealist Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 615	03-29-2005 07:52 Well, I crash a couple times a night. Maybe a bit more I have a Mac dual G5 with a Radeon of high enough number that I don’t bother remembering it. However, I do have to say that the crashes almost always come when I am flying from a telehub (loading new – possibly corrupt – textures) or when I am flying at 20 – 40 meters/sec in a vehicle across sim borders. If I stick to well known neighborhoods, and slow down a bit, I almost never crash. _____________________ Kathy Yamamoto Quaker's Sword Leftist, Liberals & Lunatics Turtlemoon Publishing and Property turtlemoon@gmail.com
Tcoz Bach Tyrell Victim Join date: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 973	03-29-2005 08:29 Oddly enough, I recently introduced SL at a shop I'm working with, with the intent of seeing what a digital media group that's really Flash/Actionscript, UI and framework savvy would do with SL. Six people, all experienced digital media artists, everybody runs a high end machine (though all ATI equipped, and SL + ATI makes me nervous). Anyway, they all crash constantly, I was sort of shocked, though once I got them all to shut off bump mapping and lighting the problem seemed a lot better (though not fixed). Today we try it on a decent Mac for a little while to see how that goes. One guy even has some super duper alienware machine allegedly completely tricked out for 3d gaming, and SL takes it down. The guy seems to know what he's talking about, 3d hardware mags piled up all over the place, good with 3d studio max and all. At home on nVidia with a decent (not super at all by today's standards anymore) machine I don't think I've crashed SL hard in months (logoffs usually equal being thrown off the grid or a bad tp etc.). Same with my laptop, nVida equipped, other than that not too fancy, and I don't think I've ever seen it burn down. SL also seems to be falsely detecting some driver settings. It constantly throws a request for a chip bios upgrade or some such and the two machines we see it on appear to have the most recent version already. Well this'll all get better with 1.6...right? If anybody is curious what they thought, they love it, though define working with it as "often frustrating". However if anybody has worked with the past two or so versions of Flash, that's nostalgic. _____________________ ...you want to do WHAT with that cube?
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	03-29-2005 09:46 17" Powerbook G4 1.33 GHz with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600. Crashes happen so infrequently as to be approaching never. I did crash once last week whilst jetpack-ing across the new sims, but it was the first time in months.
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	03-29-2005 10:10 Mine lies between never and once every 4 hours so I picked never. That happened when I went from ATI to Nvidia. When I had the ATI 9800 pro it was every 15 minuts, with the Nvidia 6600gt almost never.
Starley Thereian More Cowbell! Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 330	03-29-2005 10:25 I can sometimes go weeks without a single crash, but then I'll have cycles of days or weeks where I crash so frequently I don't know why I bother coming online. I've been in the crash stage for about 2 weeks now and it's driving me bonkers. My record is something like 18 crashes in about 2 hours. P4 3.0Ghz 1MB RAM ATI Radeon 9800 pro 128MB I've got a new computer on order that will hopefully clear this up.
Madame Maracas Not who you think I am... Join date: 7 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,953	Not quite really "Never" but certainly not every 4 hours! 03-29-2005 10:32 Reboots happen about every 5 hours or so due to the need to clear caches for Skype while I'm streaming RadioRadio. Skype goes to hell in a handbasket, everyone sounding like they're drunk AND underwater , and while that's highly amusing-sounding, it makes for tough communications. - If I'm not running the station, I don't need to reboot unless I'm in and out of Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign all day, those caches just won't clear otherwise! - Reboot/relog due to bad tp's, sim crashes, the attachments not showing/still showing/won't attach fix type stuff happens, maybe once every 40 hours in world I think. Real honest-to-Linden crashes, computer locked up, drive light flashing it's dying embers, that's maybe once a month (1/1,200 hrs), if that, I suspect more like 1/2,400 hrs in-world. I run Norton (updated everytime), AdAware & defrag my drive EVERY night when I do my last reboot before letting the station roll while I sleep. I clear my SL caches about once a week or more often if stuff is getting sticky. Last week, my ISP was being a %^&* and my overall performance was horrendous, but mostly I couldn't get into SL so that doesn't count toward your survey. They fixed whatever it was and things are steadily better. My lil beastie was born Dec 2003: Dimension 8300 Series Intel Pent 4, 2.8 GHz HT 512 MB DDR SDRAM @ 400MHz (want to bump that to 1.5 gig soon, but for Illustrator, SL's fine) 128MB DDR NVidia GeForce FX 5200 120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive 7200 RPM My monitor, which I LOVE, is an Iiyama Vision Master Pro 400, it's about 5 1/2 yrs old. My system has breathing space, is lovingly used daily, worshipped often and pleases me always. I have a 3" high pewter replica of the Flat Iron building in NYC on top of my monitor. I find that helps. _____________________ RadioRadio - http://radioradiosl.com M 6 Hobbes Abattoir T 7 Sezmra Svorag W 4 Brian Mason W 6 Moira Stern W 8 Nala Galatea Th 6 Chet Neurocam F 6 Vertigo Paris F 9 Madame Maracas S 5 Madame Maracas S 8 TriNala Su 6 Trinity Serpentine http://madamemaracas.wordpress.com - Madame Maracas Blaaagh Plurk - http://www.plurk.com/user/MadameMaracas
Agatha Palmerstone Space Girl Join date: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 185	03-29-2005 11:08 I'm running an Athlon thunderbird 1.8 ghz 512 Mb PC 133, not DDR Geforce FX 5200 I crash to desktop about every 2 hours or so, but have to relog much more frequently.
Chandra Page Build! Code. Sleep? Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 360	03-29-2005 12:39 I used to crash pretty much all the time, especially when rotating the camera quickly. Entering or leaving the Appearance window, with its whiplash-inducing camera spin, was a guaranteed way to drop me straight to the desktop. It took me about three hours of editing and crashing and editing again to build my avatar for the first time on Orientation Island; if I hadn't been impossibly stubborn and pushed through to the mainland, I'd probably not be in SL today. A few months ago, I ran across the Omega drivers, which have completely solved my crashing problem. I haven't experienced an actual client crash in ages. Unless a teleport goes bad or I get stuck while attempting to fly over a sim border at Mach 12, which require me to manually relog, I stay in-world indefinitely without problems. I'm certain that the Omega drivers won't solve everyone's crashing problems with SL (there are simply too many possible combinations of hardware out there), but they've been a genuine godsend for me. My machine's a reasonable gaming rig that's about a generation and a half behind current state-of-the-art: 2.53 GHz Pentium, 1 GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro graphics card. _____________________ Come visit the In Effect main store and café Drawbridge (160, 81) Particle effects, fashion, accessories, and coffee! On the Web at SL Exchange and SL Boutique
Agatha Palmerstone Space Girl Join date: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 185	03-29-2005 20:11 From: Chandra Page A few months ago, I ran across the Omega drivers, which have completely solved my crashing problem. Thank you!
Sox Rampal Slinky Vagabond Join date: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 338	03-29-2005 20:21 MORE accurate would have been......How often to you re-log? _____________________ Freedom is a wonderful thing but ONLY if you have someone to defend it.
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	03-30-2005 01:05 not quite never but then I overclock too much . I crash maybe once every 2 weeks. GeForce 6800 GT (AGP) Asus A7N8X Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (OC'd to 2.3 Ghz, 200FSB) 3 sticks generic 3200+ ddr _____________________
Nikolaii Uritsky Filthy Old Man Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 671	03-30-2005 09:46 From: Prokofy Neva I know many, many people experience crashes and lock-ups because I see them relogging all night long, over and over again, every 30 minutes. In fact, to give someone your calling card is merely to give them a constant in-your-face visible reminder of their constant crashes and reloggings. SORRY! XD _____________________ [ \| \| \|\|\| \| \|\|\|\|\| \| \| \| \|\|\|\| \| \|\| \| \|\| \| \|\|\|\| \| \| \|\|\| \| \| \| \|\| \|\| \| \|\|\|\| \| \|\|\| \| ] Vote for .PNG support for textures! Vote for chat invisibility!

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