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Talen Morgan
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12-09-2004 04:29
From: Cross Lament Well, I vote absolutely NO to capital punishment, for any crime. Until you can show me an utterly infallible system that will always only convict the guilty party, with absolutely no chance whatsoever of convicting someone who is innocent, then the risk is too great.
Besides, what's the point? It doesn't bring their victims back, or whatever. It's simple vengeance. It seems that a lot of people have the impression that that's what the legal system is about, retribution for incorrect actions; revenge, basically. How sad.
To those who would continue to support the death penalty, I ask this: will you volunteer to be the one to pull the switch, administer the lethal injection, drop them from the gallows? Will you volunteer to explain to the family of the wrongfully executed person, just why their spouse/sibling/loved one is dead, for something that they did not do, while the guilty party is still free to go about their life? As long as multiple apeals are allowed and the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt, YES, I would absolutely become the executioner. You can bet it wouldn't be a a lil needle prick either it would be full on hardcore death. I would have no problem killing the likes of richard speck, ted bundy, jeffrey dahmer, john wayne gacy, and or any other sick fuck. And I would bet there would be multiple people that would take my place when I retire. No, it doesn't bring the victim back but its not about vengance either...its eliminating an evil from society. Do me a favor and look up just how many serial killers recieved fan mail while incarcerated. Look up how many of these sick fucks encouraged others to do what they had done from behind bars. You'd probaly love to hear my plans for rapists and serial killers too  Too many times these people have been let back out into society and they have killed again.....when your dead you hurt no one. |
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Latonia Lambert
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Join date: 24 Jul 2004
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12-09-2004 05:49
I voted no - am totally against capital punishment.
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Cross Lament
Loose-brained Vixen
Join date: 20 Mar 2004
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12-09-2004 06:48
From: Talen Morgan Too many times these people have been let back out into society and they have killed again.....when your dead you hurt no one. And again, what do you say to the family of the wrongly executed? Is it worth that risk? I don't think it is, myself. And it's very, very easy to say, "Yes, I'd kill that son of a bitch..." I've said it myself. But when it comes down to it, if I were faced with it, I doubt I could do it. I'd always have that lingering doubt, 'what if we were wrong?' You can release the wrongfully jailed from prison. You can't bring back the wrongfully executed. I personally like how Tolkien put it, best: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement, fearing for your own safety. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Talen Morgan
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12-09-2004 07:19
From: Cross Lament And again, what do you say to the family of the wrongly executed? Is it worth that risk? I don't think it is, myself.
And it's very, very easy to say, "Yes, I'd kill that son of a bitch..." I've said it myself. But when it comes down to it, if I were faced with it, I doubt I could do it. I'd always have that lingering doubt, 'what if we were wrong?'
You can release the wrongfully jailed from prison. You can't bring back the wrongfully executed. I personally like how Tolkien put it, best:
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement, fearing for your own safety. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." As I said before I would like to see every avenue available to the convicted to prove his/her innocense. But in a cases where there is evidence above and beyond a reasonable doubt then I say execute them. Everyone was up in arms when Karla Faye Tucker was executed...they said she found the lord and was doing good things...it didn't seem to matter that she only bothered to do those things after she put a pick axe through a mans chest. She was guilty of that murder and the evidence was beyond reproach. WHat do you say to the families of murder victims where the killer was in jail previously for murder but was let out? A case many years ago ( i can't rmember the mans name) started in the summer of 1958. This man bought ice cream for 2 little girls and walked them home....only to stop by a bridge, rape, and mutilate them. He was caught and sentenced to death. The Death penalty was recinded and his sentence commuted to 20-life. He was parolled in 1976...within 2 months he raped and killed a 12 year old girl. He was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. In 1996 he was considered a model prisoner and cured of his evil ways....again he was parolled. Within 6 months he again raped and mutilated 2 little girls.....what do you say to those families? There was a man who raped a teenager and then proceeded to chop off her arms and throw her in a ditch to die....she lived...she identified him....he confessed. He was sent to jail for life and then 20 years later he came up for parole...the community and the girl who was now a grown woman pleaded to keep him in jail. They parolled him. Since the community wouldn't accept him they let him live in a trailer on prison property until they could figure out what to do. 4 months into his parole the parole officer stopped by to speak with him....he found a prostitute hacked to death in his trailer....what do you say to the community then? If there is reasonable doubt then jail is the only way to go. If there is massive evidence, a guilty plea, or they were caught in the act then they should get Death. |
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
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12-09-2004 09:09
With all the politics aside, I don't think there was enough material evidence that he should be executed. I personally believe he was guilty, and if there were enough hard evidence to back it up, then yes I think he'd deserve a death sentence. I don't think his guilt was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt though.
Then again, I didn't watch alot of this on TV. What info I got was from articles and such, so there may have been plenty of hard evidence that I am not aware of.
*edited for spelling error*
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