I don't think anybody should be given the death penalty.
And I'm so happy to be living in a country where this barbarity was done away with nearly half a century ago.
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Selador Cellardoor
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12-08-2004 07:41
I don't think anybody should be given the death penalty.
And I'm so happy to be living in a country where this barbarity was done away with nearly half a century ago. _____________________
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Neehai Zapata
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12-08-2004 09:01
I don't believe it cost more to execute someone. Nor if someone is guilty do I want to pay taxes to keep him alive until he's 100. If no one was ever executed..there would be Prisons everywhere..and deficits galore. What you say is Illogical in my opinion. You could very well be the stupidest person on the planet. Have you even looked up how many people TOTAL have been executed in the US over the past 100 years? I'll bet you haven't and you are just pulling this shit out of your asshole. (which must be pretty damn big) Prisons! Everywhere! Good lord have mercy. What are we gonna? I was gonna go shopping at the new Wal-Mart for Christmas presents, but they had to tear it down to build another one of them damn prisons. They're EVERYWHERE! _____________________
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12-08-2004 09:03
I'm opposed to the death penalty entirely, and for one primary reason. The reason I so strongly oppose the death penalty is that the system of justice is clearly fallible, as has been demonstrated by the number of exonerations that have occurred in recent years; mostly through the use of DNA evidence. That's exactly how I feel about it. _____________________
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 09:09
You could very well be the stupidest person on the planet. Have you even looked up how many people TOTAL have been executed in the US over the past 100 years? I'll bet you haven't and you are just pulling this shit out of your asshole. (which must be pretty damn big) Prisons! Everywhere! Good lord have mercy. What are we gonna? I was gonna go shopping at the new Wal-Mart for Christmas presents, but they had to tear it down to build another one of them damn prisons. They're EVERYWHERE! I think the stupid one is you for breaking the TOS by name calling. Learn how to use tact before you resort to this level of harrassment. I won't even honor this with a reply. _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
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12-08-2004 09:13
I think the stupid one is you for breaking the TOS by name calling. ![]() _____________________
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12-08-2004 09:13
I think the stupid one is you for breaking the TOS by name calling. Learn how to use tact before you resort to this level of harrassment. I won't even honor this with a reply. You already fucking did _____________________
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 09:27
You could very well be the stupidest person on the planet. Have you even looked up how many people TOTAL have been executed in the US over the past 100 years? I'll bet you haven't and you are just pulling this shit out of your asshole. (which must be pretty damn big) Prisons! Everywhere! Good lord have mercy. What are we gonna? I was gonna go shopping at the new Wal-Mart for Christmas presents, but they had to tear it down to build another one of them damn prisons. They're EVERYWHERE! Let me refrase then..You have answered your own question as to the issue of stupidity based on breaking the TOS and resorting to a level of harassment. _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
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12-08-2004 09:32
I think the stupid one is you for breaking the TOS by name calling. AND AGAIN... Ok, Blake. For you, I will explain. You called someone stupid for breaking the TOS by calling you stupid. Therefore, you broke the TOS yourself, in addition to letting everyone know that you think of yourself as stupid. I am sooooo building you an Elmer Fudd AV. _____________________
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Blake Rockwell
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12-08-2004 09:37
You could very well be the stupidest person on the planet. Have you even looked up how many people TOTAL have been executed in the US over the past 100 years? I'll bet you haven't and you are just pulling this shit out of your asshole. (which must be pretty damn big) Prisons! Everywhere! Good lord have mercy. What are we gonna? I was gonna go shopping at the new Wal-Mart for Christmas presents, but they had to tear it down to build another one of them damn prisons. They're EVERYWHERE! Ok..i'll go ahead and reply to this..I think you should look up how many convicted murderers are in the Sytem along with every other conviction that could have brought the death penalty and see how many are currently in the Population and tell me how many of those Prisons aren't overcrowded. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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12-08-2004 10:32
No.. he should have to live in prison with his new boyfriends for the rest of his life, with no chance of parole. It should give him plenty of time to think about how he ruined multiple lives.
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Talen Morgan
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12-08-2004 10:45
No.. he should have to live in prison with his new boyfriends for the rest of his life, with no chance of parole. It should give him plenty of time to think about how he ruined multiple lives. Unfortunately it rarely ever works that way. Take richard Speck for example...he murdered 8 nurses goes to jail under the death penalty then the death penalty was abolished....he lived out the rest of his days growing breasts for his lover and snorting coke off his dick.....oh yeah they had a video camera and taped it all. He was one prick that should have been executed with a vengance. I believe That there should be executions but I also believe they better be damn sure when they do it so I have no problem with multiple appeals. Those people like Richard speck, john wayne gacy, richard ramirez, and ted bundy deserve to fear for their lives every second of every day until the state takes it from them....and it shouldn't be by lethal injection it should be in the same manner they chose to kill their victims. |
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12-08-2004 12:53
I don't believe he should get the death penalty because there was no hard evidence that he did it. If there was a video tape or an eye witness account, I would say yes. I just don't believe anyone should get the death penalty on circumstantial evidence.
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Lash Xevious
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12-08-2004 13:22
I don't believe he should get the death penalty because there was no hard evidence that he did it. If there was a video tape or an eye witness account, I would say yes. I just don't believe anyone should get the death penalty on circumstantial evidence. I have to agree. Because of circumstantial evidence, it's hard to give the death penalty. I hope he suffers in prison though. He reeks of guilt imho. _____________________
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Akuma Withnail
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12-08-2004 14:20
I don't think anybody should be given the death penalty. And I'm so happy to be living in a country where this barbarity was done away with nearly half a century ago. I totally agree. I am against the death penalty not because there is a margin of error in the justice system which would result in innocent people being excecuted on occasion, but because I believe that a state does not have the right to kill it's own citizens. To systematicallly take a human life in cold blood as is done in the case of state excecutions is murder and there is nothing that can justify that no matter what the person may have done. The state would not fail to prosecute a murder commited for revenge by a private citizen and the death penalty is nothing but officially sanctioned revenge. In a democracy each and every citizen who supports the death penalty is an accomplice to murder. A bit harsh perhaps, but that's how I see the issue. |
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12-08-2004 14:25
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Neehai Zapata
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12-08-2004 16:20
I think the stupid one is you for breaking the TOS by name calling. Learn how to use tact before you resort to this level of harrassment. I won't even honor this with a reply. Awww sweetie. I didn't mean to hurt you. Here's some lotion for your delicate thin skin. I never said you were the stupidest person on the planet. I just said you very well could be. Words are funny that way. ![]() Ok..i'll go ahead and reply to this..I think you should look up how many convicted murderers are in the Sytem along with every other conviction that could have brought the death penalty and see how many are currently in the Population and tell me how many of those Prisons aren't overcrowded. How about you tell me brainchild. Just how much would swift executions and the removal of due process alleviate the prison population in the United States. This is quite an interesting proposition. When you are ready to back it up with something that didn't come out of your ever growing ass, please let me know. _____________________
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Neehai Zapata
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12-08-2004 16:24
Oh, and I definitely don't support executing Casey Peterson.
http://www.catholicherald.org/archives/articles/caseypeterson03.html Save Casey Peterson! Peterson, a native of Superior and member of the Cathedral of Christ the King Parish, has been married for 23 years. She and her husband, John, have three grown children; Ann, 24, J.P., 21, and Matt, 19. It's not right to execute people just because they are a mother and a christian. What kind of sick people are you? _____________________
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Isis Becquerel
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12-08-2004 17:12
Ok..i'll go ahead and reply to this..I think you should look up how many convicted murderers are in the Sytem along with every other conviction that could have brought the death penalty and see how many are currently in the Population and tell me how many of those Prisons aren't overcrowded. Number of inmates on death row in 2002 per the Bureau of Justice: 3562 Total number of inmates in 2002: 2,085,620 I really do not believe that the percentage of inmates on death row (a meager what .17 percent of the incarcerated population) is having any effect on the overcrowding of the jails. Your argument is unfounded and illogical. Furthermore; various studies have shown that the death penalty is not an effective deterant against violent crime mostly because the type of person who would commit these attrocities are not of sound mind and usually think little of their own life or of consequences for their actions. The death penalty is a means of katharsis. Some people "feel" better knowing the person has paid for their sin, they want to see the person die and know that they will not kill again. It is not done to punish or rehabilitate. Your own spiritual leader was a victim of the death penalty. It was barbaric then and it is barbaric now. _____________________
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MrsJakal Suavage
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12-08-2004 19:40
Unfortunately it rarely ever works that way. Take richard Speck for example...he murdered 8 nurses goes to jail under the death penalty then the death penalty was abolished....he lived out the rest of his days growing breasts for his lover and snorting coke off his dick.....oh yeah they had a video camera and taped it all. He was one prick that should have been executed with a vengance. I believe That there should be executions but I also believe they better be damn sure when they do it so I have no problem with multiple appeals. Those people like Richard speck, john wayne gacy, richard ramirez, and ted bundy deserve to fear for their lives every second of every day until the state takes it from them....and it shouldn't be by lethal injection it should be in the same manner they chose to kill their victims. I agree completely with you Talen! This is exactly how I feel ![]() _____________________
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Cross Lament
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12-08-2004 20:09
Well, I vote absolutely NO to capital punishment, for any crime. Until you can show me an utterly infallible system that will always only convict the guilty party, with absolutely no chance whatsoever of convicting someone who is innocent, then the risk is too great.
Besides, what's the point? It doesn't bring their victims back, or whatever. It's simple vengeance. It seems that a lot of people have the impression that that's what the legal system is about, retribution for incorrect actions; revenge, basically. How sad. To those who would continue to support the death penalty, I ask this: will you volunteer to be the one to pull the switch, administer the lethal injection, drop them from the gallows? Will you volunteer to explain to the family of the wrongfully executed person, just why their spouse/sibling/loved one is dead, for something that they did not do, while the guilty party is still free to go about their life? _____________________
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Foster Virgo
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12-08-2004 20:15
Life in prison with no possibility for paroll is worse than a death sentence so no. And most criminals that are guilty of crimes so cruel usually get killed while serving anyway by other inmates.
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Garoad Kuroda
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12-09-2004 02:55
I'm opposed to the death penalty entirely, and for one primary reason. The reason I so strongly oppose the death penalty is that the system of justice is clearly fallible, as has been demonstrated by the number of exonerations that have occurred in recent years; mostly through the use of DNA evidence. Besides, its a well-known fact that it costs the state more to execute a prisoner than it does to lock them up for life with no possibility of parole. You can achieve the same public safety factor with life sentences, without running the risk of killing an innocent man. - Ace Ironically, DNA evidence and the improved methods we have today are some of the best arguments FOR a death penalty now. Ugh...the cost is nuts. For the chair anyway... I don't know why that even still exists. What's wrong with a needle? Simpler isn't it? Does anyone object to the death penalty for those who admit guilt? I sure as hell don't. _____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
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12-09-2004 03:01
Garoad,
<<Does anyone object to the death penalty for those who admit guilt?>> Less than 200 years ago, in my country we were publicly strangling children for committing petty crimes. That seems pretty barbaric now, from the perspective of the 21st century. Less than 50 years ago we were killing people when they had committed murder. Some of those, incidentally, were insane; some were innocent. We were also imprisoning homosexuals and those who tried to kill themselves. That seems pretty barbaric now, from the perspective of the 21st century. The whole idea of the state killing its citizens, from the perspective of a country which no longer does it, is atrocious. The answer to your question is 'yes'. _____________________
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Garoad Kuroda
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12-09-2004 03:06
Everyone has their opinion--to me letting an admitted serial killer stay alive is a worse evil.
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Garoad Kuroda
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12-09-2004 03:14
Life in prison with no possibility for paroll is worse than a death sentence so no. And most criminals that are guilty of crimes so cruel usually get killed while serving anyway by other inmates. I have to disagree... besides, putting them in a cell for years, if they DID prefer death (which apparently most don't or we'd have many more volunteering) I'm sure they could find a way to end up dead anyway. A life sentence gives you a choice...given that most don't choose it, I have to conclude that life in prison is not worse than death. It's not right for us to have other criminals do our dirty work anyway...that's more "barbaric" than a state run execution, if you consider that barbaric. If it's going to be done at all it has to be done "right". _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |