Is it griefing or is it just for fun?

Some people know me as a griefer and some of you know me as fun and adventurous. It isn't a secret that I carry a gun everywhere I go. Sometimes I use my gun to shoot friends for fun and they shoot me back if they are good enough to catch me. I rarely grief anyone unless there is just cause. But what do you all think? I am considering quitting SL just because too many people have no sense of humor at all. What is the use of having a gun if you can't shoot anyone right? lol or am I wrong?

Well, my take is... if some people think you are a griefer, and you in turn think they have no sense of humor... then signs point to you bein' a griefer.

If you have to ask... then really, you don't have to ask.

Now, I'm not familiar with any of the particulars... and I hate to see people leave. But at the same time, we can't have too few griefers runnin' around.

Well, I shot this person becaus she neg rated a very good freind of mine and when I saw her i couldn't help but shoot her and her friends standing nearby. I am over it now and feel much better. Chances are the Lindens will ban me for about 14 days very soon. But if they do i will just quit.

I only pop someone if they have it coming.

Such as....

n00bs demanding money/guns/etc that wont shut up, people threatening me or freinds, or people for some really really piss me off.

That doesn't sound like you being "fun and adventurous." Obviously if you are shooting people in a non-combat zone becuase you are mad at them, you are griefing them.

You should quit if you really believe that you should decide when it is appropriate to grief (i.e. shoot) and when it is not. I've found that most people here have a pretty good sense of humor but don't want or like some unknown shooting them for whatever reason.

So, yes, you should leave SL at your earliest opportunity. See, that's my sense of humor

My, that is a very amusing joke that you played on them... no wait... it was a mean spirited attack made in anger.

Yeah, you're a griefer. Don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave.

There is no excuse for grief.

as somewhat of a noob in regards to some things in the game still, what exactly happens when you do shoot someone in a noncombat zone? personally, I've considered getting a gun and plugging a couple caps into people who deserve it...

but what would happen if I did? would the other person just get that little blue popup asking if they want to report abuse? or do they actually get shot and fall down and "die" in some way?

if nothing negative happens other than the annoying little blue popup, could someone actually explain to me what the harm is in shooting them as opposed to saying something rude instead?

I wonder if the Lindens have an amnestry program for Teens in the main SL grid..?

If you say something rude, they can just ignore you. If you shoot them, you are actively interfering with what they are doing and disrupting their experience.

Second Life is not a FPS, nor is it PvP.

There are areas inside it for those kinds of things, but if you aren't in one of those don't expect people to react well to being shot.

Push scripts.

As I understand it.. in reply to the question as to what happens when shot.. it depends on the gun and how it is scripted. It may do nothing.. it may have sound and/or a poof of smoke/fire.. it may push you a few inches.. or it may even push you into the next sim.

I was out shopping one day... a couple of people were standing in the store chatting.. I didn't wish to interrupt them, so I stayed over away from them and used the camera angles to view the products. Next thing I knew, one of them shot me! I ended up at the middle of the ocean at the corner of the sim. I was not amused. It took me forever just to get to that store since it wasn't near a TP base.. So, ya see... the guns can be disruptive if used in a griefer fashion.

As for the original post... Sorry... I have a wonderful sense of humor.. it just doesn't include shooting the unarmed in a non-combat zone. Believe me, I understand anger and frustration.. but.. well.. yeah... it would be labeled as griefing.. especially since you were not the individual they had negged..

Best way to learn is by trial and error... ask someone to shoot you and see what happens. Ask them to test a variety of weapons devices on your av and you'll realize why people don't like it.

There are some scripted attachments that will make your av fall over in a pool of blood when shot. However, they are the exception rather than the rule. They are pretty cool, though.

Some push weapons are so powerful, that you are not only thrown across a sim, but you might actually have your client crash on you as a result. This is incredibly annoying when you are just minding your own business and some twit knocks you right out of the world. It this kind of thing that gets abuse reported.

Gut feeling is that you'd be far happier in a FPS.......enjoy.

This is Rickard Roentgen's SuperCollider -- often-cited, infrequently attributed -- but if anyone wants a free copy, IM me and I'll give ya the latest version, which I believe is 1.6. It's definitely pretty cool, like Ursula said.

Well, with that said, I might stick around anyway. I am not usually a griefer. I have only shot this one person and hell it didn't kill her. She just went crying to her daddy and he IM'd me thinking I was somebody's alt. I was supposedly reported but just maybe they all laughed about it and realized what a cool ride it was to be knocked off the island. You know, just maybe, they are hunting me down to shoot me. I sure hope so because I love a good fight with my friends. I love the way you all just spread the love by telling me to not let the door hit my bottom. I got that warm fuzzy feeling inside from my fellow players, thanks. I now know why you all are in here bashing each other and not in game having some fun and getting laid. hehe If you all want me to go then in game come and get me. I find this very amusing to challenge you bashers. Let the party begin!!!!!

Devlin! Over here!

MINOR ALERT...MINOR ALERT! Please report to the kid grid immediately for processing. Thank you, and have a good day.

And, btw, you're the one that came to the forum and posted your "problem" which was to defend griefing. You should understand how many people posting on this forum have had past difficulties with griefers, and how your actions, for your pleasure, can ruin someone elses fun. Those aren't hard concepts.

Not many people would think it was a "cool ride" to be knocked out of a sim, without thier permission.

if this was directed towards me, then no, I have played FPS's a lot, and still do... but to me they get boring quick... run around, shoot someone, get shot, respawn, repeat... it's fun for a while but not much...

and thanks to everyone who answered my question... now I know...

I have simple solution for people that arbitrarly shoot me on my own land whilst being on it...its called.

A) silently make land damage enabled
B) Pull out most expesive not Pubicly sold Weapon.
C) Rez Kill immediately
D) wash rinse and repeat if they return ...Simple

My Land My Rules and if Damage enabled with no Hate mongering sputem to go with the Rez Kill I was merely returning thier bullets ....the hard way.

Shadow

Have a Nice Day...

You are amusing, just by his words you have already determined he is a minor. I don't know him but have seen him in Briarcliff hanging out with the hi-tech groups scripting and creating vehicles and such. I was with a friend when I briefly met him. He gave us some of the stuff he was creating. As for him being a minor, he didn't come off as one but then again, it was just briefly. From his posts, he seems like he just got mad at one person.

I usually have a sim-clearing weapon ready on standby. Not a gun, nothing obvious, just something that I can mouselook and send someone flying.

I occassionally have to use it.

Sure, he got mad at one person. Unfortunately, he took it out on innocent bystanders as he says in his post (emphasis mine):

Aaron, you asked if you were griefing, and were answered. Are you somehow surprised that not everyone enjoys being interrupted, thrown from the sim they are in, or possibly crashed or even forced into rebooting their system? What did you expect the reaction to be, a rally around you with cries of "No, don't quit! We need more griefers because people really need to have what they are doing interrupted more often!"

You confessed to griefing a group of people, then when called on it, you are suddenly the victim of bashing? Please. You aren't the victim, the plucky underdog, or the anti-hero that everyone roots for. You're a griefer that is trying to worm out of his responisibility for his actions. And as an aside, a lot of people are on the forums instead of ingame beause at work they only have access to the forums... you know, grownups have jobs.