Reasons why L$ doesn't belong on the teen grid

It's not just buying / selling between the grids.

What about Casino Games? Are those PG or Mature content? Teens shouldn't be gambling l$ if it can be traded for real money.

Blaze, LL cannot stop trade of L (or TL) dollars. Yes, yes, I know that putting a clause in the ToS against selling TL$ would cut down on it, and get rid of *public* trading, but they would still be gambling with something that could be exchanged for USD.

Cubey, how would it be easier for L$ to go one direction? As far as I can see, it would be just as easy for a teen to sell something to our grid as us to theirs.

Eureka!

Why not a third party website through which SL vendors from both grids can field things like customer support issues, etc?

If it's not on their servers, LL has no jurisdiction over it.

Hey, yeah, we could use There.com as a meeting place.

(my attempt at humour, really)

Don't make me wash your mouth out with soap.

Like many people have stated before in the forums, one of the main problems in allowing the players of the Teen Grid to use the same currency as us and allow them to trade is that it allows the system to be milked by adult players who either have kids that join that grid or sneak in.

Example: I create an account for my cousin (who is 17 years old). I play with her account once in a while to create the items that I have created in SL or new things. By being one of the first creators in this grid, I can monopolize the market that much easier, guaranteeing that I make lots of Lindens to be traded later.

The first content creators/ sellers will have an advantage because the grid is new so all the products are new and exciting to the teen players.

Doesn't Anshe Chung have a teenage daughter?

I have teenage nephew and teenage students

But, seriously, exactly this is likely to happen. Somebody will use teenage daughter or friend to setup account and profit in teeny grid. Having both economies linked with L$ while at same time introducing some movement barrier that is full of loopholes it is like if Linden Lab announce some kinda X-Price for first successful cheat.

God, if I read this when I was 16 or 17 I would of been massively offended. When I was that age I was playing Diablo and Ultima online and it didn't add any undue stress or anything.

Man, I hate listening to people refer to minors(not kids!) as utterly incompetent. I socialize often enough with this age group(granted the more mature and intelligent ones) and would take them over many of the stupid adults I meet all around Second Life.

Quit putting words in peoples mouths and your points may get some serious attention.

God.

So do I.

But while I don't think minors are incompetent, they are, really by definition less life experienced than Adults and this puts them at a significant disadvantage.

In addition to more life experience, Adults usually have work experience, post secondary degrees and generally more financial assets.

I think it's important to give teenagers lots of leeway amongst themselves, but I don't think we should set them up to be economic prey for adults.

Simply put the Teen Grid should have its own currency and own exchange seperate from the Main Grid. Consider it monopoly money of sorts.

However to conclude this if the Teen grid is seprate from the adult grid keep it that way totaly with no crossover. No cross over Items No Cross over Money Nada.

When It comes time for a 18yr old with a gajillion Kid bucks to Transfere to the main grid think of it like graduating form the plastic cash register to a Visa Card. They have to start over cause thats how RL is let em freaking deal with it.

Shadow.

(speculative to say those 18yr olds crossing over would be adults that went to the teen grid anyway and if they logged in reporting they were 13 that means every 5 years they would have to rotate out a new charature to keep up the pace as LL would keep track of the age frame in the teen grid. Thus an adult would have a decent 25 year run before burning out a credit card. welcome to the demise of the economy cheap kid labor and outrageous drops in linden currency exchange as kids are too young and dont have a clue. )

If you did that, you'd risk having both you and your teen banned from the grid. Sure that's not enough risk to put all but the most unscrupulous players off the idea?

You'd have no proof that the adult was using the teen account, or vice versa. There really does exist both a teen and adult in the same household, so they are allowed to both be in SL, one in TeenSL and the other in AdultSL. I see nothing mentioned that they aren't able to share experience with each other, trading scripts via notepad, sharing textures via local filesharing.

There are many adults that would risk creating a teen account in order to corner the market. We have seen many players go through risks in order to make a quick buck, so this wouldn't be any different for them. Also, if it has been pretty easy for minors to sneak into this grid, I'm sure that adults will find a way to do so in the teen grid. After all, besides asking a player (and the person could always lie), how else can you be sure that the person is actually a teen and not an adult pretending to be a teen?

Ah yes, but there is an important difference. Most kids have more online/video game experience then the rest of their famly combined. I think a lot of adults would actually find themselves economical prey to kids. In my experience from playng Magic:The Gathering I've seen many young kids play up their supposed inexperience to trick older people into bad trades. When I say young kids I mean 14 and 15 year olds. Older minors(16 and 17) are pretty skilled at this.

Though whatever -- you said the most important thing. As long as they have leeway everything will go over well.