A liberal Columnist Speaks Out
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
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02-02-2005 11:43
From: Lecktor Hannibal *looks woefully at his Republican card* Oh don't be woeful!!! Republicans of your stripe have my total respect. My dad was a Goldwater Republican (prolly why I turned out to be stark-ravin' pinko) and I sincerely hope that a strong responsible Republican party always exists in this nation. It is needed and necessary for the strength of this union to have an adequate check and balance system.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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02-02-2005 11:45
From: Rose Karuna Well you already have the official tie dyed shirt (cool one too), so I'll have my "femanatzi" buddy drop the burkinstocks into your inventory.  Oh yes please do !!! I will so Gimp out some fuzzy socks to wear with them!! YAY
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Talen Morgan
Amused
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02-02-2005 11:46
From: Kendra Bancroft Sorry. Democracy doesn't come at the end of a gun barrel. Good results or no --the end NEVER justifies the means. If there is any success in freedom and Democracy coming to Iraq --it will be the Iraqis to congratulate --not Bush. I wonder if our forefathers knew this? The United States of America wouldn't exist if we hadn't taken it at the end of a gun barrel.
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
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02-02-2005 11:47
From: Talen Morgan I wonder if our forefathers knew this?
The United States of America wouldn't exist if we hadn't taken it at the end of a gun barrel. The Native American's figured it out pretty quickly. 
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Paolo Portocarrero
Puritanical Hedonist
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02-02-2005 11:48
From: Rose Karuna The Native American's figured it out pretty quickly.  Touche' Rose! You rock 
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-02-2005 11:49
From: Plenipotientiary Extraordinaire I know I shouldn't respond as I said I was out of the thread... but you are really begging for an answer here. So you shall have it.
Who is responsible for you taking insult at anything? You or whoever or whatever you are involved in? I contend that each and every person is responsible for her or his own actions and responses - regardless of provocation.
Consequently, I find it both arrogant and amusing (in the pitiful sense) that you would insist that I owe you an apology for a slight you deem I have inflicted upon you.
Not only have you accused me of hurting you once, you then accused me of deliberately doing so again - "attacking" you personally while ignoring that I haven't referred to you as a person at all. I have been quite careful to refer to only your argumentation, not you as a person. You as a person don't exist for me --- only your posts do.
I don't apologize to anyone for the existence of disease, for broken ankles or for poverty - not when I have had no personal involvement. I posted, that was a personal involvement, however your interpretation is your own and that is where my responsibility ends. I have been "read the riot act" and simply ignored the person doing so. Perhaps you would be happier isolating yourself from me via the IGNORE function as you have from Billy? Then again, being "blindered" may not make you any happier, but again, you are in charge of your own emotions, not I nor Billy.
Lastly, if you feel I have been tearing you down, there is nothing I can do to dissuade you from that conclusion - not a single thing. How you reached that conclusion is beyond me. If you cannot take criticism of your style of posting, then silence may be your friend, though I note many references to people who no longer post in the forums and few of them are complimentary. So, even not posting may not accomplish the goal of avoiding criticism here.
Okay. That's off my chest. You can continue to be hurt or not. My suggestion to you is to own your own feelings and responses please - do not attempt to publicly foist them off on me through language of victimage. :::::::  have and a haircuts --six bits:::::::
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-02-2005 11:50
From: Talen Morgan I wonder if our forefathers knew this?
The United States of America wouldn't exist if we hadn't taken it at the end of a gun barrel. Neither do we have a Democracy.
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Talen Morgan
Amused
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02-02-2005 11:51
From: Rose Karuna The Native American's figured it out pretty quickly.  Perhaps, but I wasn't refering to them....I was refering to the British.....
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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02-02-2005 11:53
From: Rose Karuna The Native American's figured it out pretty quickly.  Ouch! Being partially Seminole, this made me think.
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-02-2005 11:55
From: Talen Morgan Perhaps, but I wasn't refering to them....I was refering to the British..... In that case your analogy is certainly false. The British were trying to PREVENT American Independance at the barrel of a gun. That can work very well in most cases. A more apt analogy would be Saruman and a legion of 10,000 Uruk Hai attempting to bring the glory of Sauron to the poor deluded people of Rohan.
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
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02-02-2005 11:57
From: Lecktor Hannibal Ouch! Being partially Seminole, this made me think. Chief Billie absolutely RAWKS: http://www.sptimes.com/News2/seminolegambling/daythree/parttwo.html
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Lianne Marten
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02-02-2005 11:58
From: Kendra Bancroft A more apt analogy would be Saruman and a legion of 10,000 Uruk Hai attempting to bring the glory of Sauron to the poor deluded people of Rohan. Pfft... the Rohirim can take any number of Uruks any day of the week. Nothing like getting run over by a warhorse to show you what for. 
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-02-2005 11:59
From: Lianne Marten Pfft... the Rohirim can take any number of Uruks any day of the week. Nothing like getting run over by a warhorse to show you what for.  yeah not so pretty when they bust out the mumaks tho' is it.
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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
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02-02-2005 12:00
From: Kendra Bancroft yeah not so pretty when they bust out the mumaks tho' is it. Well no, but Sauroman doesn't have any of those... the Haradrim serve Sauron and Sauron only, not some deluded little mage in his fancy-pants tower.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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02-02-2005 12:02
Haha that guy is brilliant ! "Buy my tapes, I need to put gas in my helicopter." 
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Isis Becquerel
Ferine Strumpet
Join date: 1 Sep 2004
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02-02-2005 12:02
From: Plenipotientiary Extraordinaire I know I shouldn't respond as I said I was out of the thread... but you are really begging for an answer here. So you shall have it.
Who is responsible for you taking insult at anything? You or whoever or whatever you are involved in? I contend that each and every person is responsible for her or his own actions and responses - regardless of provocation.
Consequently, I find it both arrogant and amusing (in the pitiful sense) that you would insist that I owe you an apology for a slight you deem I have inflicted upon you.
Not only have you accused me of hurting you once, you then accused me of deliberately doing so again - "attacking" you personally while ignoring that I haven't referred to you as a person at all. I have been quite careful to refer to only your argumentation, not you as a person. You as a person don't exist for me --- only your posts do.
I don't apologize to anyone for the existence of disease, for broken ankles or for poverty - not when I have had no personal involvement. I posted, that was a personal involvement, however your interpretation is your own and that is where my responsibility ends. I have been "read the riot act" and simply ignored the person doing so. Perhaps you would be happier isolating yourself from me via the IGNORE function as you have from Billy? Then again, being "blindered" may not make you any happier, but again, you are in charge of your own emotions, not I nor Billy.
Lastly, if you feel I have been tearing you down, there is nothing I can do to dissuade you from that conclusion - not a single thing. How you reached that conclusion is beyond me. If you cannot take criticism of your style of posting, then silence may be your friend, though I note many references to people who no longer post in the forums and few of them are complimentary. So, even not posting may not accomplish the goal of avoiding criticism here.
Okay. That's off my chest. You can continue to be hurt or not. My suggestion to you is to own your own feelings and responses please - do not attempt to publicly foist them off on me through language of victimage. What a strange ideology. You really do not take into consideration that there are actual human beings posting these words? That is amazing. If you were speaking to me on the phone would you consider me less than human and only think me a stream of sound waves? I wish to be the target of critics because it forces me to examine my ideals and my thoughts but I always assume that there is a human with feelings and emotions behind every post I read and rebutt. That does not mean that I refrain from the occasional jab but I try to only jab after I have been struck personally (such as when some folks decide to call anyone questioning Bush's motives a terrorist). You are a sad cat though if you really do not see the being behind the post if you are so quick to desensitize yourself to the humanity...but I suppose it is that ability which makes supporting this war in a foreign country all the easier as the burned babes are not on your doorstep. If you cannot see the person in front of you then they do not exist? Sad very sad. It is my hope that your academic endeavors in college broaden your perception of reality a bit.
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Kendra Bancroft
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02-02-2005 12:04
From: Lianne Marten Well no, but Sauroman doesn't have any of those... the Haradrim serve Sauron and Sauron only, not some deluded little mage in his fancy-pants tower. Nice Lianne makes valid point :::gollum::: Smeagol be good to nice master, yesssssss.
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