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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 00:26
Ok, folks .. want to make use of all those cool weapons?

Join the "FightClub" group (not the "fight club" groups with the uncool spaces)

Anyone in this group is open to any kind of attack by anyone else in the group at any time, any place. This means push weapons, cages, etc etc.

Couple rules:

- It takes 48 hours to leave the group. Don't join it if you are not interested. Leaving and hoping people will leave you alone will NOT WORK, so don't bother joining in the first place if you're that kind of person. Or, consider using an ALT avatar so your main avatar will be left alone in peace.

- Any attack must be focused single avatar attack on the individual in the group. If you attack with an area effect weapon, then you will be abuse reported.

So, use avatar-seeking weapons, swords, that kind of thing. No bombing.



I'm still working on the point of all this other than weapons testing and pure unadulterated aggresion. If you have some ideas, let me know.

Yes, blah blah, TOS, blah blah. If the Linden's delete this thread or say it's against the rules, no problem I will eject everyone and close FightClub down immediately.

Otherwise, please go nay say something else.
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Jauani Wu
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02-04-2005 00:33
why no bombing??
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Devlin Gallant
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02-04-2005 00:40
Are verbal attacks okay?
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02-04-2005 01:23
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 01:41
blaze,

I'm going to say this as nicely as possible.

Do you post every single tiny thought that runs through your mind, or are you just really, really bored?
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02-04-2005 01:50
From: Hiro Pendragon
blaze,

I'm going to say this as nicely as possible.

Do you post every single tiny thought that runs through your mind, or are you just really, really bored?


I believe his name's lacking the "D" on the end.
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 01:52
Hiro, I not only post every thought that runs through my head I also post every thought that runs through your head as well.
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Jauani Wu
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02-04-2005 01:57
btw, i endorse this product! i look forward to using my seburo on all of you punks!

walk on here! you'll limp back!
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 01:58
From: Jauani Wu
btw, i endorse this product! i look forward to using my seburo on all of you punks!

walk on here! you'll limp back!

pffft, my Colt .45 whips any Seburo. Plus I can do it in slow motion with bullet trails ;P
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Jauani Wu
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02-04-2005 02:02
From: Hiro Pendragon
pffft, my Colt .45 whips any Seburo. Plus I can do it in slow motion with bullet trails ;P


you will limp back! i promise you! join the group hiro and get ready for your beat downs!
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 02:06
From: Jauani Wu
you will limp back! i promise you! join the group hiro and get ready for your beat downs!

I'd consider joining the group if I thought it would be managed in a way that wasn't a train headed for the Linden train coming down the same track in the opposite direction.

Why does it take 48 hours to leave a group that I can click "leave" and be gone?
Why can't I only participate when my tag is on?
Why is it ironically named after a movie about connecting with other human beings, when it's really playing into the seperation into fantasy?
Why are there no safeguards so that it won't be shut down from obvious griefer openings?

If you want good combat, come check out Doc's SIM Combat swordfighting system - I am becoming a partner in this, and it will be the premier combat system in second life. Period.
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 02:16
ok well sign up with your alt!

that way, if you want to stop playing just relog into Hiro.

As for the Linden train, yeah.. I'd like to hear their official position on this, as well.
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Willow Zander
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02-04-2005 02:19
If Fred sees this thread, I will have lost my husband :/

:p
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 02:22
From: blaze Spinnaker
ok well sign up with your alt!

that way, if you want to stop playing just relog into Hiro.

As for the Linden train, yeah.. I'd like to hear their official position on this, as well.

It wouldn't be as fun on alts.

As for the Linden train, I think it's pretty clear - if someone doesn't want to be griefed, anytime, for whatever reason, they can report you for abuse.

I also think that the way you've set it up - not respecting group tag being off - is a breeding ground for griefers to try and get away with stuff and claim it was "in rules".

This is why I made my first comment... because it seems to me you just post what's on your mind without thinking it through first. If you really want to do it, you'd ALREADY have worked out a proper ruleset that was Linden approved before you advertise it on the forums.
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 02:30
It is an interesting point and I appreciate your feedback, however I did think that bit through.

The problem with the group tag and leaving is that it just lets people attack and as a defense turn off or leave the group. Yes, they can still attack and relog as an ALT but .. the most damage you can really do to someone is the equivalent of a relog .. so it's all good.
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Liquid Zidane
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02-04-2005 02:31
Another Fight Club!? Well I have only one thing to say about this redundant matter:

RICK JAMES, BITCH!
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 02:36
From: blaze Spinnaker
It is an interesting point and I appreciate your feedback, however I did think that bit through.

The problem with the group tag and leaving is that it just lets people attack and as a defense turn off or leave the group. Yes, they can attack and relog as an ALT but .. the most damage you can really do to someone is the equivalent of a relog .. so it's all good.

If you think that's the limit of what a decent scripter could think of, then you're mistaken. :)
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 02:38
bahaha.

i have only 3 little words for you

bring. it. on.
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 02:56
From: blaze Spinnaker
bahaha.

i have only 3 little words for you

bring. it. on.

So you can appreciate what I have in my work queue:
- PoseCubes is in Beta test / scheduled to come out in the coming week - SL wide and will involve promotion, support, and events
- SIM Combat - is currently just pre-1.0, I'm just getting involved to supplement the scripters and push it forward. Full melee combat system with ranking. After 1.0, if things go well and the opportunity is right, it will be expanded to multiple modes of play.
- Scoogle - Second Life search engine - project classified, design phase completed
- Update Hiro's Super Vendor Script, prep it for another release, marketing campaign with malls to use this vendor to reduce lag and make it easier for new players

All these are SL-wide projects and high-priority. Making a cool program to kick someone's rump for a few chuckles is rather low on my priority list. :)

In the meantime, when SIM Combat goes 1.0, I invite you to duel with me :) -- it's Beta right now, and we're working on some marketing to bring in more people to test and give feedback. :)
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Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 03:08
Lemme make it clear though, blaze... if you're serious about this, and not just throwing out ideas (which you do often) - I think you can work with some Liasons and come up with a system that could really work. I'd endorse that.
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 03:22
Well.. I emailed Philip and asked if he could yay/nay it or if someone else at LL could yay/nay it.

Hopefully LL sees it as a potential outlet for griefers who want to do something with all those cool weapons they spent so much money on.

For me, I think it's just a virtual version of core wars
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 03:30
From: blaze Spinnaker
Well.. I emailed Philip and asked if he could yay/nay it or if someone else at LL could yay/nay it.

Hopefully LL sees it as a potential outlet for griefers who want to do something with all those cool weapons they spent so much money on.

For me, I think it's just a virtual version of core wars

I'd love to see an island square of 4 sims... get some creative developers who like combat to make it a nice area... four bases in each corner... denote the whole region Linden land with a 30 minute auto-return on non-group (use a special group like Bedazzle) items, and let people go crazy.
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blaze Spinnaker
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02-04-2005 03:40
I guess the programmer in me sees things a bit differently:

Players trading or building invisibility shields that work on bugs in the system so you can sneak up on people..

Paying major $$$ to get the best guns from Francis Chung or whoever

Never knowing when someone is going to come out of thin air and start blasting you away while you're just chatting or playing tringo.

Having automatic sensor alarms that detect when people are trying to come at you from somewhere.

Developing weapons which can automatically detect the owner of attacks against you and attack back with your own special menu of firepower.

Setting your home parcel to banning people from fightclub as your one safe haven.

Or your house might have an auto-eject script, or a turret to blast or massively cage your enemy, all depending on how you are feeling and what you want to test.

The list goes on and is fairly infinite.. all depending on your imagination and what LSL gives you.
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Hank Ramos
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02-04-2005 03:49
You broke the first rule of Fight Club. You weren't supposed to talk about Fight Club!

:D
Hiro Pendragon
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02-04-2005 03:51
From: blaze Spinnaker

Paying major $$$ to get the best guns from Francis Chung or whoever

Hiro Protagonist or Cornelius Bach!

From: someone
Never knowing when someone is going to come out of thin air and start blasting you away while you're just chatting or playing tringo.
See, that's less a "Fight Club" and more of a game of assasin - what makes it cooler is when you get specific targets and safe zones... that'd be a fun game, too.
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