Master Seeks Female Submissives (DSTK)

Master Tygers Dagger seeks female submissives for servitude. Please send Notecard with your information and capabilities as well as what you are looking for in a Master to Master's First Lady Kathryn Primrose in-world.

Notecard must include your first and last name, your RL age and any previous experience in servitude. Please also detail your availability in days and SL times, as He is looking for submissives who are available at specific times that suit Him.

Lady Kathryn will provide you with full information regarding the DSTK style of Dominance and Submission upon request so you can determine if you would care to be assessed for a submissive role with Master Tygers Dagger.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Spring%20City/137/224[/url

*Looks up to see this is the employment forums*

How much does the position pay?

Submissives are somewhat synonymous with slaves in the Gor or BDSM community, only we practice DSTK which combines some aspects of both. This is not a job, it's a lifestyle commitment. This ad was placed here as a "help wanted" item as there is not another area on the forum which seems conducive to an ad such as this.

Hi, please explain what DSTK is exactly, and if, as a descendant of BDSM, it also conforms to SSC (Safe, Sane and Consensual) or RACK (Risk Aware Consensual Kink). Thank you.

DSTK = Dominance and Submission with Tygers and Kathryn

CHARTER DOCUMENT

You have heard of Gor. You have heard of BDSM. Now experience a different type of D/S. Experience DSTK.

A new form of dom/sub relationship, DSTK incorporates much of what you may know from the world of Gor as well as the world of BDSM. There are, however, differences which you will notice during training as a submissive and as the relationship between you and Master or Mistress progresses.

In DSTK we do not degrade or inflict pain for the sole purpose of doing so. You are respected as a human being, but expected to submit your mind, body and soul to Master and Mistress without question.

IM Mistress Kathryn Primrose in-world if you wish to see the complete charter notecard. Thank you for your interest.

That's lovely, but doesn't begin to answer the question.

The one way total submission that is M/s in a Gorean setting is mitigated by the fact that both parties are also members of a community with traditions and expectations of honor. Does your format conform to at least one of the following:

- Gorean tradition

- SSC

- RACK

and if not, what is the guarantee the submissive will have a growth experience rather than a destructive one?

On what basis do you justify a power exchange without any boundaries?

Mistress has explained that further details which will most likely answer your questions are available if you IM Mistress in-world and request them. This forum advertisement was to pique interest in a new lifestyle that provides growth of person based on love and caring without infliction of harm to the soul or degradation as found in Gorean and BDSM communities. If you want to know more, please IM me in-world as requested.

I think you're a noob.

Badmouthing both the Gorean and BDSM communities does nothing to persuade me you'll make any more sense in IM.

Organized communities exist to protect the safety of the submissive as much as for any other reason. This is especially true of BDSM, and the fact that you're making the generalizations that you are, tells me you're not as aware of safety issues as you should be.

DSTK and RACK now? Puh-leaze. Just folks that want to run their own little space as self professed guru's. S&M isn't good enough, nor slavery, nor bdsm...now we need more cutesy abbreviations so we can look even more silly to the rest of the world.

Lets talk about a real checklist. Do they have a job, is the umbilical cord cut, can folks give rl refererences on demand? How 'bout we make these non profits, or better yet religions? Heck, proclaim yourself a deity and call your organization G.O.D. and be done with it.

filling in the meaning of G.O.D. is left as an exercise for those 80% of doms with a messiah complex. Subbies, don't lose sight of reality, this is absurd.

That sounds very much like a request... I thought Dom/mes gave instructions which they expect to be fulfilled without question?

Broccoli

Broccoli, there ya go thinking again! Very few orders are given with the expectation of being fulfilled without question. Some prefer the fight and struggle of a submissive that challenges the order or command. Some commands don't get fulfilled as they are out of reach for the submissive, done on purpose at times by the Dominant just to see what the submissive will do, what her reaction is, what her limits are.

See Broccoli, it's not about giving and receiving orders. There's more to it.

Very Nicely Put

Sweet jesus LMAO!
Some of you folks are rough no pun intended.I know nothing of this topic slaves,Gor, BDSM community however,I respect the hell out of those who practice. If the woman wants to swing from a chandelier screaming for someone to peel her a grape and make up her own rules for her own SL
experience why the fuck not? Isn't that why we are all here? <wink> to do as we please without judgment? Damn... we get that in RL,why bring it here?I respect those who know thier trades and or likes <big grin> but do we have right to bash a person for creating and exspressing her own? "nawww,we don't" Let the woman mistress to her own tune I am sure you all do. <wink>

PURRS&GRR"S
Seren Singh

Excuse me Kathryn, but imo it's a poor sort of man, much less a "Master" who can't go out and woo and win his own submissives/slaves.

And yes woo and win is what i meant.

Sub/Slave is not synonymous with brainless doormat.

Yeah why the big fuss? I'm sure everyone here does whatever the hell they want in SL. Let the Mistress and the Master do their thing.

Being someone who is not currently in a D/s relationship but has been a part of the BSDM community irl for ten years now I fail to understand why people masquerade as something they are not? Don't they know that those of us who live the lifestyle can spot a poser within the first thirty seconds of a conversation or in this case the first line of a help wanted "advertisement." Come on people wake up GOR D/s' are just as phoney as the person placing this ad. However, I do understand GOR in Second Life as long as all parties involved understand that it is not reality. I have had GOR Masters approach me and try to convince me they in fact are "real" life Masters in the BSDM community and nothing irritates me more that that. Yes, ethics/codes/rules/contracts are all important to have but the main thing that bothers me about this ad is the fact that these two are dangerous and what I mean by dangerous is that they are misleading submissives new to the lifestyle. It is very unfair and misleading not to add a disclaimer saying that this is a game and not the actual BSDM lifestyle.

You can use whatever cute name you like for it, it will still be, "BSDM the play along version."

Remember whatever your sexual preference be safe and be prepared!

Being a Domme myself and have been in Gor for 5 yrs I can relate to the op. However...those applying should be careful since sl is filled with fakes...

Just my 2 $L...

Mandy C

This post was made mostly to introduce a new concept that IS in practice in RL...and to see what all of those of you who have responded say - not really to get subs for my Master - believe me, he doesn't need any help with that - lol. Your posts have been interesting, to say the least. Thanks for taking the time to rant, rave, support and cajole - nothing like the introduction of a new concept to rile the masses and hear what people REALLY think.

Ha! You are all pawns of Kathryn!

Being a RL Dominant and SL Mistress Myself, I have to state this:

Does anyone else notice how the name of this so called new D/s life is both their names? This would prove that it's meant for them only, not for everyone, it's not a community, a group or even a club, it's just them out looking for subs, slaves and Dominants to play around with in a title they can call their own. To Me it looks like a cry out because they can't do anything on their own without making a ridiculous name and advertising themselves as a huge revolution to "reach out" to people with a totally new concept. They took ideas from both worlds and made their own. Honestly, I know this is SL but do you really need to take it that far to create another world for yourself inside a world that doesn't 'really' exist in the first place?

And you expect us to believe her original post was an attempt to get some opinions? I'm not buying that for one minute. I believe seeing all the negative feedback this post brought on prompted her/them to withdraw their ad and claim it was a test.

Personally I don't care either way the only reason I posted at all is because I'm trolling waiting for SL to bring up the grid and btw I came up with this new line of submission that only requires the use of your mind where I will tell you lies and force you to believe it's really happening, I call it BSD-Con and I'm taking applications packages start at a mere 200L. (That was a JOKE and it amused me for about five seconds lol).

Remember Second Life is only a game and we are all players! =0p Kathryn hunnie if you wanna do what you do more power to ya all I was saying is ... don't mislead people.

It's in practice in RL? Neat! Post a URL to a website or other information that we can access.

okay let's keep it simple. Not each female might become a sub to your Master, however I even don't think he is sooooo important that we would cry about

New concept... well this is the Employment Forum you might look that word up, it might be a new concept for you too. Since you are not goin to pay a sub for her Service otherwise she would be a Sub/slave for rent and this is not a new concept this is the normal way Gorean Master get their people you should move to another forum. The excuse would be "I thought thats a help forum" well yeah it is, but since which day we need help from SL if we try something RL ? So the resume of that, you try it SL and tell people we use it RL too.

Back to your new "awesome" Concept, I do not Instant Message your Master/Mistress to get a Information Notecard, I mean if I read this crap I'm goin to ask which new concept this is, that let Slaves/Subs talk like this.... It's just something alot of people come up with, to make quick money in SL, they don't care about a Lifestyle. So get a place in that line and keep frontin we need more of those I**** And it will not sound better if you are goin to tell, "this new system will be available in RL too or soon or whatever" I dont know where you come from, if your information is right it should be arizona and hell I can promise you, those concept does not exist..... Its a shame who calls themself a Mistress/Master RL without any clue what they are talkin about.

WOW Jasmine you just gave me a headache! I didn't really understand anything you said but I'm from Arizona! Well not from there but I did used to live there. Anyway ... I think you were saying something to the effect of, "Just because she markets this DSTK it doesn't mean anyone will buy it." I disagree someone will buy it but it will be like a K-Fed CD , they will listen to it once then rant about how they totally wasted an hour of their life!

It's quite easy to find a fake that's for sure just by asking a few questions like. What are the most important qualities a Master/Mistress needs to have in a D/s BDSM relationship.. A real Master Mistress would know that one and most would not.

That being said earlier this year I was playing a slave in Gor when became involved with a Mistress who buys and sells slaves in SL Gor. Now that isn't anything unusual and so I didn't think much of it until I saw a pattern and looked into it closer. What I found out was disturbing and shocking. This women (I assumed) was not just buying and selling slaves in a fictional world but was convincing some very naive women into believing a real life master is what they really wanted. I was told by her that she did indeed sell women to real life masters and that is was consensual and she said if I was interested she had one who was interested in me and she would get me travel arrangements to Taiwan to meet with this "master". My first thought was to get out of there and so I did. I've heard of places that lure women into asian countries, take their passports and force them into slavery for prostitution. I never really believed it. What I do know is some of these women that she "sells" never seem to return to Second Life. What that means is anyones guess.