super-great summaries, chance and doc!!

elucidated many important points - while retaining emphasis on that it's still only possibility... it -could- happen. and the gestation period (2-3 days to first symptoms) is a big, big point... it seems to about negate the 'burn' rate, if it kept its 48-hr symptom-to-kill time. yiiiiiiii...
and 100% kill (albeit in poultry)?? good god/dess - pardon if it sounds flippant, but that's worse than AIDS!! (a terrible and slow 'cancer;' i've watched several folks die from it

) and - it's a -flu,- fer cryin' out loud... ebola has a more 'limited' range, as far as its transference/infection m.o., so that's why it's transference rate during 'burn' is more easily controllable...
nope - any doubters wondering if it's just a waste of time to worry about, this sucker -could- be 'ultra fast-acting super flu-AIDS'.
hey, when was 'swine flu' the big worry - back in the early-ish seventies, wasn't it?? that would be an interesting one to read about, hopefully in contrast to these current avian fears - that had some impact, from what i remember, but nowhere near a 'catastrophic' level of lives lost...
and because i simply -can't- resist politics, i must contribute...

though i don't want it to necessarily hijack the initial thread...
From: Chance Abattoir
Okay, the last thing I want to say is directed toward everyone who is getting angry about the possibility of martial law in the U.S. Sure I like to jump on the I hate Karl Rove's minions hate train as much as half the country, but even considering that this administration has opportunistically used tragedy to benefit its own agenda (just as the Dems would have if they were in power) and misused power to restructure voting districts (Texas) and passed questionable laws and created a whole new section of the government to watch its citizens and on and on and on... How do you propose that we maintain water, electricity, food, and order to whole cities under quarantine WITHOUT USING THE MILITARY? Think about it.
i haven't posted an opinion on it before (i don't think ever, really

but your reply caught my attention more than the smatterings of 'martial law fear' previous (here, and also via dkos/other cool blogs

- so now, i'll consider some thoughts regardin'...
i'm not terribly afraid of martial law, in and of itself, per se, as i trust our -military,- our -people,- as one of us, even if that's a route of public service i did not wish to pursue myself... talking one-on-one with anyone, a soldier, a serviceman(person

, a cop, a priest, a preacher, a businessman(person

, a homeless person... this is not a problem, as when left to our own resources at a local level, we've all already in five years had more 'nationwide outreach' events than any time before in modern history; the way we all had feelings of 'reaching out' to help, after 9-11, and katrina... we -can- take care of each other, without much 'shit' happening.
buuut, who i don't trust are members of that now nearly abstract elected league, now -zealously- protected from -any- sort of casual contact from the public dialogue, from public opinion, taking such charge. to reference the same events again, both 9-11 and katrina were, at large, preventable disasters - both also had 'clinton-era' reports and plans-of-action (and even current 'daily action memos') that were ignored - either recklessly distrustful of clinton-legacy materials as 'valid precidence', to only claim 'incompetence' - or as purposeful 'criminal negligence' for the political gain, file under 'treason' and 'reckless endangerment'.)
for example, though fema is an organization entirely capable of declaring martial law on a disaster-struck locality (and though they never did declare), it sure -felt- like n.o. was under martial law for three weeks or so!! it certainly was up to the national guard/other forces to come in and make sure what -could- be done -was- done... the police dept. was completely, literally 'swamped' with this situation. who the hell else can come in and help?? but, there was -no food, no water- to provide, and without those, you -will- have problems.
ahhhh, but that only takes competence at at least one or more levels of govt. powerful enough to push the right actions... and alas, right now, we just don't have it. the stacks are -so loaded- with disfunctional incompetents, i just have no idea when next it's gonna bite us 'good americans' in the butt!! (ooooo, that's scary, eh kids??

- hey, i finally did a 'count floyd' imitation... heheh

happy halloween!!

well, returning to the subject of 'killer-flu', that would be such a widespread epidemic that there would be problems with the dilution of forces spread across much of the nation... well, i know n.o. isn't the only primarily-poor-but-extremely-developed area of the country that will suffer neglect from those who -only- think about money, or about the money they'll make from rebuilding what's lost. that's my worry, i guess, for now...

BOOOOO! heheheh... 'wasn't that scary keeds? you don't think depression isn't scary, keeds? didn't you seem them?? they couldn't - function in this world, with those faces, all those faces... -alright,- that wasn't scary! igmar bergman... who booked bergman?!' - my terrible count floyd impersonation again!!

p.s. oh, and as far as 'democrats use political gain as much as 'anybody else''

(which really only seriously means -republicans-

iran-contra; afghanistan; central america; the ignanimous end of the vietnam 'conflict'; arming the world, particularly the middle east (re: afghanistan, the taliban, and osam-bin-lad); arming sad-dam; flip-flopping from peaceful, sharing treaties (so 'for'neers' don' have to move -here-

to stand-offish refusals to honor previous administration's efforts - making my 'home sweet home' seem kneejerk, 'turncoat' to the world, as so polarized as to have the feel of tradeoffs every four or so years of benevolent/malevolent dictatorships.
let's face it, we hardly have a friend left in the world, literally; witness the disintegration of the iraq coalition forces. and i also would say, let's face it; dems have had only 12 of the last thirty-five years, and their transgressions are of a much lighter variety than the R's. it's a matter of scale, z'all i'm sayin'...

kinda funny how those gas prices fall, the more the admin's poll numbers drop, the closer the indictment threats get, eh?

-happy- h'ween, y'all!!
