And folks, don't call Bush a Bible-thumper. He only uses the Bible to get votes.
I think the context of calling him a bible-thumper is to equate him to other stupid people, rather than religious zealots.
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Siro Mfume
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07-29-2006 00:56
I think the context of calling him a bible-thumper is to equate him to other stupid people, rather than religious zealots. |
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Chip Midnight
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07-29-2006 07:22
Eventually, maybe around the time our grandchildren are opening their history books in class, history will hopefully show him for the vile liar that he is. But probably not. Probably not. Look at Reagan. By the end of his term 138 officials in his administration had been convicted of crimes, indicted, or been the subject of investigations into misconduct or criminal violations. His administration was incredibly corrupt by even modest standards and yet he's held up by the right as some kind of national hero. We have a long sad history of revisionism in this country. _____________________
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Corvus Drake
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07-29-2006 10:23
Probably not. Look at Reagan. By the end of his term 138 officials in his administration had been convicted of crimes, indicted, or been the subject of investigations into misconduct or criminal violations. His administration was incredibly corrupt by even modest standards and yet he's held up by the right as some kind of national hero. We have a long sad history of revisionism in this country. This is why the internet is Goddess-sent, I swear it. A perpetual record of recent events that can be hidden away from even the most destructive revisionists and double-thinkers by a simple matter of hitting ctrl-A, ctrl-c, and ctrl-v. Well, until it gets privatized and turned into interactive TV at least. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-30-2006 10:46
It exists as a way to remove from office presidents who break the law. This one has, brazenly and repeatedly. Personally I doubt he'll be impeached because people are still bitter about the complete abuse of the system during the Clinton witch hunt. The Constitution can't just be ignored when it becomes inconvenient, however. The problem is that partisanship has gotten so out of hand that even legitimate calls for his impeachment will be brushed off as merely the ravings of the radical left. Chip were congress actively making an effort to truley oppose him instead of playing "I need to get myself re-elected" Id conceede your point. But they arent. They have the power to stop most of Bush's oportunistic interpretations of the law , without impeachment. But they wont. |
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Brucas Bardeen
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07-30-2006 11:51
Enjoy your own little world.
 And this is not directed to the large majority of the people who want Bush impeached. |
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Alexin Bismark
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07-30-2006 12:00
Chip were congress actively making an effort to truley oppose him instead of playing "I need to get myself re-elected" Id conceede your point. If political sentiment among voters in the country were truely lined up that overwhelmingly in opposition to Bush, "actively making an effort to truley oppose him" would have been the smart way for them to play "I need to get myself re-elected." |
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Colette Meiji
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07-30-2006 12:13
If political sentiment among voters in the country were truely lined up that overwhelmingly in opposition to Bush, "actively making an effort to truley oppose him" would have been the smart way for them to play "I need to get myself re-elected." youd think so - however, the voters opinions are only a small slice in the political re-election slight of hand |
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07-30-2006 12:17
Funny thing about the whole campaign about hating Bush...what are those ppl gonna do when his term is up. I mean they have built up all that hatred towards a single individual then suddenly he is gone. Ah well. Only Poll I care about are the election returns and they all say that more voting Americans want Bush than dont want him. Hey I got through 8 years of Clinton (OMG) it shouldnt be that hard for you guys to get through 8 years of Bush.
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Colette Meiji
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07-30-2006 12:26
Funny thing about the whole campaign about hating Bush...what are those ppl gonna do when his term is up. I mean they have built up all that hatred towards a single individual then suddenly he is gone. Ah well. Only Poll I care about are the election returns and they all say that more voting Americans want Bush than dont want him. Hey I got through 8 years of Clinton (OMG) it shouldnt be that hard for you guys to get through 8 years of Bush. Actually is the same thing that was done during Clinton. The political process has been over simplified by the media and amoung uneducated people to think that the proper way to handle any President's poor judgement is to impeach him. |
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Alexin Bismark
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07-30-2006 12:36
youd think so - however, the voters opinions are only a small slice in the political re-election slight of hand No, not really, but you're entitled to your opinion. |
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Alexin Bismark
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07-30-2006 12:44
Funny thing about the whole campaign about hating Bush...what are those ppl gonna do when his term is up. I mean they have built up all that hatred towards a single individual then suddenly he is gone. Ah well. Only Poll I care about are the election returns and they all say that more voting Americans want Bush than dont want him. Hey I got through 8 years of Clinton (OMG) it shouldnt be that hard for you guys to get through 8 years of Bush. Remember Reagan, Carter, Nixon, LBJ.... I left out Ford because, he wasn't so much hated as mostly laughed at and ignored. There will always be someone to hate, it simplifies the thinking process.  |
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Colette Meiji
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07-30-2006 20:33
No, not really, but you're entitled to your opinion. Well , true its my opinion. But I think that Money is every bit as important to someone getting re-elected as voters opinions. There are other factors such as the ones in power controlling the process, outright Political Machines, etc. Im not saying it should be that way. Just saying thats the way it is. ________________________________________ Of course Like every other post I make in this forum. And everyone elses - this post is liberally sprinkled with opinion. |
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07-30-2006 20:53
Funny thing about the whole campaign about hating Bush...what are those ppl gonna do when his term is up. I mean they have built up all that hatred towards a single individual then suddenly he is gone. Hehe, just wait. If the next president's a conservative Republican, the left-wing portions of the media will, after a short time, act all shocked and outraged, declaring that Bush was bad, but this new guy is even WORSE; By-far the worst president ever. Just you wait. The current conservative president is always the worst ever. Next president needs asbestos undies. |
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Alexin Bismark
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07-31-2006 03:29
Well, true its my opinion. But I think that Money is every bit as important to someone getting re-elected as voters opinions. Ah, well this is different from saying "voters opinions are only a small slice in the political re-election slight of hand". Money is the lifeblood of any campaign as it pays for your staff, campaign operations, polling, etc, which are all focused on getting your message out. But in the end, if the voters don't buy your message or those that do aren't energized to show up and vote, your sunk regardless of how much money you raised. |
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Colette Meiji
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07-31-2006 06:43
Ah, well this is different from saying "voters opinions are only a small slice in the political re-election slight of hand". Money is the lifeblood of any campaign as it pays for your staff, campaign operations, polling, etc, which are all focused on getting your message out. But in the end, if the voters don't buy your message or those that do aren't energized to show up and vote, your sunk regardless of how much money you raised. hmmm no I still think small slice. Another huge aspect to gettign elected is party affiliation - And that parties endorsement (tacit and behind the scenes) of said candidate. In my opinion you are not jaded enough about the political process as it has come to exist in America =p. Still do not think secession by impeachment is a good idea , either. |
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07-31-2006 06:47
impeaching Bush won't get rid of his policies, look who would succeed him
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07-31-2006 06:49
The Impeachment system does not exist as a means to change policy. Its there to remove tyrants and criminals. Then we agree. Bush must be impeached. _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:53
Funny thing about the whole campaign about hating Bush...what are those ppl gonna do when his term is up. I mean they have built up all that hatred towards a single individual then suddenly he is gone. Ah well. Only Poll I care about are the election returns and they all say that more voting Americans want Bush than dont want him. Hey I got through 8 years of Clinton (OMG) it shouldnt be that hard for you guys to get through 8 years of Bush. Yeah. All that Clinton peace and prosperity was hard to take. I feel your pain. _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:54
impeaching Bush won't get rid of his policies, look who would succeed him Impeach them both. Bush is just Cheney's ventriloquest dummy anyways. _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:55
Yeah. All that Clinton peace and prosperity was hard to take. I feel your pain. WTF!!!!! peace and prosperity? Umm Somalia, Kosovo, Libya? not to mention the school shootings that were going on during his presidency. peaceful my ass. _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:56
Impeach them both. Bush is just Cheney's ventriloquest dummy anyways. The speaker of the house is republican as well so you still gain nothing _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:56
WTF!!!!! peace and prosperity? Umm Somalia, Kosovo, Libya? not to mention the school shootings that were going on during his presidency. peaceful my ass. Yes. Peace and Prosperity. Your Ass. _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:56
The speaker of the house is republican as well so you still gain nothing She won't be after '06. Then we can have President Pelosi. _____________________
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Yes. Peace and Prosperity. Your Ass. i'm sorry but your full of shit on this one Kendra, it was not peaceful, prosperous yes, but peaceful no _____________________
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07-31-2006 06:59
i'm sorry but your full of shit on this one Kendra, it was not peaceful, prosperous yes, but peaceful no No..you are full of shit. Compare Clinton's 8 years to Reagan's, and Both Bushes. or Nixon's, or Kennedy's, or Eisenhower's, or Truman's --shall I fucking go on. _____________________
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