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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-17-2006 12:09
It is, occasionaly, trying.

http://www.local6.com/money/6164127/detail.html

Sigh.

You want to tell me I'm living a sinful life? Fine, knock yourself out. You're free to do that.

You wanna stand outside a funeral and mock the dead for being a "faggot"? Fine. It makes you a royal asshole, but again, knock yourself out.

Now, you want to denounce gay marriage? Ok, fine, I'm cool with that. I wasn't planning on getting married anyhow. It says something about your character, but fine, I can live with that. I can at least, if nothing else, see your logic. You have some valid points, even if I disagree with them, they are at least points of a sort.

But dangit, boycotting an entire company that employs a hojillion people because they won't be biggoted? Did you sleep through sunday school, you kumquat-brained halfwits?
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-17-2006 12:14
On the other hand, as a consumer, I treat being boycotted by some group like the AFA as a positive point for a company - it means they must have done something right.
Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-17-2006 12:28
From: Reitsuki Kojima
But dangit, boycotting an entire company that employs a hojillion people because they won't be biggoted? Did you sleep through sunday school, you kumquat-brained halfwits?



It's bigotry to oppose new laws that don't make any sense? It's already illegal to not hire someone based on their sexual preference. There's no need for new laws specifically targetted at homosexuals.

Next we will make laws that say that it's not acceptable to not hire someone because they're addicted to drugs. Then the drug addicts will call anyone that doesn't support that law a bigot. What a future.
Ordinal Malaprop
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01-17-2006 12:32
I was going to reply there, but I saw the username just in time...
Reitsuki Kojima
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01-17-2006 12:33
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Next we will make laws that say that it's not acceptable to not hire someone because they're addicted to drugs. Then the drug addicts will call anyone that doesn't support that law a bigot. What a future.


Sorry... Reductio ad absurdum, and I don't accept it as a valid arguement.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-17-2006 12:35
Seriously, I wouldn't bother.
Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-17-2006 12:42
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Sorry... Reductio ad absurdum, and I don't accept it as a valid arguement.



You should avoid labeling people that don't see things the same way that you do as "bigots". It's pretty lame.
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01-17-2006 12:42
From: Ordinal Malaprop
Seriously, I wouldn't bother.



Hahaha, of course you wouldn't. You would have no chance.
Reitsuki Kojima
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01-17-2006 12:50
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
You should avoid labeling people that don't see things the same way that you do as "bigots". It's pretty lame.


Boy, you really need go back to highschool and take a debate class.

Or, learn to read, maybe. Since I never said anything of the sort.

Are you done here, or do you want to try for strike three?
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01-17-2006 12:51
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
It's bigotry to oppose new laws that don't make any sense? It's already illegal to not hire someone based on their sexual preference. There's no need for new laws specifically targetted at homosexuals.


Per the norm, Stank, your'e talking out of your ass without bothering to do your homework. Washington state law currently does NOT have any provision in which sexual preference is protected from discrimination in the workplace.

As your argument has thusly collapsed, I can only assume that you support this measure.
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-17-2006 12:57
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Boy, you really need go back to highschool and take a debate class.

Or, learn to read, maybe. Since I never said anything of the sort.

Are you done here, or do you want to try for strike three?



From: Reitsuki Kojima
But dangit, boycotting an entire company that employs a hojillion people because they won't be biggoted?



Perhaps you are the one that needs to learn how to read.
Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-17-2006 13:01
From: Taco Rubio
Per the norm, Stank, your'e talking out of your ass without bothering to do your homework. Washington state law currently does NOT have any provision in which sexual preference is protected from discrimination in the workplace.

As your argument has thusly collapsed, I can only assume that you support this measure.


The link you posted seems to confirm what I said. Maybe you meant to link to something else?

I don't believe in any of those lame laws. If a business owner doesn't want to hire someone, whatever the reason, that should be their right. They own their business. The government shouldn't force businesses to hire certain people that they don't want to hire. That's lame.
Reitsuki Kojima
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01-17-2006 13:01
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Perhaps you are the one that needs to learn how to read.


No, I'll stick with you do.

Or, you need to learn what words mean, anyhow.

I'm not labeling everyone who disagrees with my a bigot.

I believe under the rules of baseball, you are now "out".
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Taco Rubio
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01-17-2006 13:09
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
The link you posted seems to confirm what I said. Maybe you meant to link to something else?

I don't believe in any of those lame laws. If a business owner doesn't want to hire someone, whatever the reason, that should be their right. They own their business. The government shouldn't force businesses to hire certain people that they don't want to hire. That's lame.


Ok let's review this.

First off you say:

From: Stankleberry Sullivan
It's already illegal to not hire someone based on their sexual preference. There's no need for new laws specifically targetted at homosexuals.


then I point you to the official Washinton Government website, which says:

"The legislature hereby finds and declares that practices of discrimination against any of its inhabitants because of race, creed, color, national origin, families with children, sex, marital status, age, or the presence of any sensory, mental, or physical disability or the use of a trained dog guide or service animal by a disabled person are a matter of state concern"

which does NOT include anything about sexual preference.

At this point, your entire argument is based on an incorrect statemnet. In the common parlence of our time, at this point you're pwnd.

Instead, you come back with with a new opinion to be against this... So the pattern is

You "A!"
Me "But A isn't true and here is the proof"
You "B!"

I am attempting to illustrate why it is very frustrating to debate with you, Stank. You never concede a point or admit to being wrong about something; you instead continue your views while ignoring that previous points were based on faulty 'facts'.
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01-17-2006 13:25
From: Taco Rubio

At this point, your entire argument is based on an incorrect statemnet. In the common parlence of our time, at this point you're pwnd.


yup
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Juro Kothari
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01-17-2006 13:42
I find it odd that the article is in the "Problem Solvers" section of the news web site.

Stankleberry - until the day comes when laws are not being crafted to specifically discriminate against a group of citizens, who are not breaking the laws (unlike drug addicts), there should be laws to protect people who *need* to be protected from bigotry. I'd rather we not have to either, but I'd rather other people not be able to dictate who I can marry either.
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01-17-2006 14:07
From: Reitsuki Kojima
I'm not labeling everyone who disagrees with my a bigot.


Actually, you did.
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01-17-2006 14:09
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01-17-2006 14:09
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
*edited* .

That is just fucking wrong dude.
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-17-2006 14:11
From: Juro Kothari
I find it odd that the article is in the "Problem Solvers" section of the news web site.

Stankleberry - until the day comes when laws are not being crafted to specifically discriminate against a group of citizens, who are not breaking the laws (unlike drug addicts), there should be laws to protect people who *need* to be protected from bigotry. I'd rather we not have to either, but I'd rather other people not be able to dictate who I can marry either.



Who is creating laws that discriminate against groups of people? Marriage has always meant 1 man and 1 woman. The new additions to the constitution that people sometimes hope for would just make that more clear for the entire country. The people that want to invent new laws are the ones that want to change existing laws, not the people trying to keep the laws the way they are.
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01-17-2006 14:12
*edited*
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01-17-2006 14:12
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
G*edited*

Abuse reported.
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01-17-2006 14:14
From: Taco Rubio
Abuse reported.



Hahaha, typical. "Oh no, I've been owned again. I must tell teacher!!"
Lianne Marten
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01-17-2006 14:16
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Hahaha, typical. "Oh no, I've been owned again. I must tell teacher!!"


You just said that gay people have a mental illness. That falls under the:

"1. Intolerance
Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life."
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-17-2006 14:17
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Actually, you did.


Show me where?
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