Emacs users who attack Vi

This thread is to discuss, rationally, the reasoning behind the Emacs user attacks on Vi. What are the underlying reasons for these attacks.

It's my humble opinion these attacks are used as a way make one feel important or shore up ones own belief system.

I feel the same about any belief system that seeks to build up its own credibility by attacking other's beliefs.

If these attacks made the attacker feel better about his/her belief system, I support their continued use. However, I don't believe anything positive can be gained by downgrading other's beliefs.

That's why I don't waste my time bashing other belief systems.

Discuss....

Edit: This thread concerns threads that were running at the time I posted this thread. It does not concern Emacs users in general.

vi sucks

emacs rules

Kevn should be so proud.

This thread reminds me of usenet...

Anyways, Emacs is the biggest piece of bloatware, since becoming the first example of the definition bloatware.

vi on the otherhand is a beautiful tool which does not need 5 1/2 cassette tapes to work properly.

You could throw vi on a floppy disc and bang an editor that does not suck.


True story (follows):

I used to be an Emacs fan, when one day a co-worker asked me to try vi. I played with it for an afternoon and never went back to Emacs. That was around 97.

That's the sort of thing Hitler would have said.

Hitler probably used something like BBEdit.

vi < emacs < pico

echo > all.

I heard it was EDT

vi > emacs > pico

What would Godwin do^H^H use?

This, without a doubt, is the single most adorable -- blatantly false, yet adorable -- thing you have ever said.

vi x 2

memacs and arexx and buttlace.b
oh my!

vim for lyfe, yo



And geez.. EDT? Ewwww... *has flashbacks to days using a VAX*

fuck all y'all.

Emate is where it's at, Baby

eggy > uma

AAAAIIIIYYYYEEE!!! and i am a proud custom 64meg-vCard eMac owner/user!!!

i can't take this!! omg i can't take this attack from all sides of all these mouth-breathing bill-gates crap-coding .asp-kissing shaved-ballmer-sucking freakazoid MSSSSNAKES ON MY GODDAMNED COMPUTER!!!

THEY MADE LUCAS MAKE GREEDO SHOOT FIRST!!! ANKLE-KITTIES ATTAAAAAACCCKK!!)

NOOOOOO!! multimate!!!

Viva la vim! (And yes I use .lsl colorization. )


Ages ago, I worked with a major emacs-snob, he was relentless at trying to convert me to emacs.

I got rather fed up with it and finally told him to watch over my shoulder while I did some of my usual vi stuff. (this was in pre-vim days).

He began stuttering in disbelief as he watched me using vi as both a spreadsheet editor and a simple relational database. For fun, I loaded up the macros that play the tower of hanoi in vi and watched him boggle even further.

I knew he could do the same in emacs too and probably more... but not as quickly or with as few keystrokes.

The rare times he brought up emacs to me after that he was much more polite about it.

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I have a lot of respect for emacs... but my fingers get snarled like the hammers of an old manual typewriter when I try using it.

I'm sick of all these Unix users who attack VMS. VMS is a far superior operating system. Just because you have to pay a little more and run it only runs on a Digital machines they get all whiney. But when you look at bang for the buck it is much better. So while they all fumble around with their cryptic unix commands I'll be blazing past them with my VAX/VMS machine. DEC will rule all!

True story: Back around 1990 I was learning Turbo Pascal on a very underpowered machine that didn't even have DOS edit on it. I wrote the beginnings of a source code editor by starting it with "echo [insert pascal code here] >> editor.pas" for each line of code (with many restarts) and finally compiling it, then using it to bootstrap itself.

What a painful process. But at least I had the good old echo command

VMS might have done better if it had something like tab completion for options&commands, and if it did away with the all the square brackets anytime you were mucking about with directories.

I was introduced to both VMS and Unix at the same time:

echo "One had short" |\
crypt -ic > cmds

THE_OTHER_HAD [...] /LONG_WORDY_OPTIONS -
/THAT_YOU_COULD_ABBREVIATE -
/AND_RISK_AMBIGUOUITY -
/AND_IT_ALWAYS_FELT_LIKE_SHOUTING



Hated them both passionately at first, they were not only somewhat contradictory to each other in style, they were also very unlike what I'd gotten accustomed to. (Which I will not mention out of shame )

nano for teh win

Ulrika darling, imitating my thread is the biggest compliment you have given me yet. But I doubt it will get anywhere near the number of posts... Hugs

Typical emacs user.