Gay "marriage"

I have never, ever seen a gay couple "flaunting" anything in public. Outside, perhaps, of Pride marches. And, you know, perhaps having a couple of days a year where you can publicly display affection for your partner without having to worry about getting beaten up, or even just attracting nasty comments, might be the teensiest justification for a snog.

I'm gay, I'm British. Gay marriage is legal here as it is in much of Europe. Next question.

Actually, I agree with Lio.

I mean a nice kiss in public is always welcome for either gender. The kind you can say "awwww" about.

She's referring to eating each other's face on a park bench with children playing nearby. She DID slant it slightly toward homosexuals but that's becuase it's the context of the post. EVERYONE needs to practice certain etiquette: just because you're fine swapping fluids with someone else doesn't mean we want to see you do it (unless it's a free download). Unfortunately, she's right...many homosexuals flaunt their homosexuality via their behavior in public because people just love flaunting social taboos. I don't think homosexuality SHOULD be taboo, but sadly, for now it is still a little. It's a bit hard to get people to stop being uncomfortable with homosexuality when they see homosexuals doing something that makes them uncomfortable when straight people do it.

Lio maintains that somehow gay people have less social etiquette and are more likely to engage in tonsil hockey than their hetero counterparts.

It's homophobic bullshit, and intolerant garbage.

If anybody "flaunts" their lifestyle it's heterosexuals. I can't fucking get away from it!

I think she tried to speak contextually and ended up coming across as passing judgment. She actually took the effort to point out it was an opinion based on her observation. I'd gather she's probably from an area much like mine.

well, I was offended.

How are you dealing with the total collapse of society that was caused by legalizing gay marriage?

(Which the opponents of gay marriage over here tell us will happen instantly upon legalization.)

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Okay, here's where I get into trouble...

I beleive that love between people is a Good Thing, regardless of gender. I also believe amourous relationships are great, as long as they remain consensual and moderately private.

My mother is very against homosexuality...I know why this is. She has had a *lot* of experiences with gay and lesbian couples who have pretty much forced their orientation onto her. Tongue kissing while she's talking with them in the living room; fondling each other's butts while walking down the street with her; paying to fly her halfway across the country to visit, then shouting "how dare she come here" when she doesn't immediately agree with a pro-homosexual comment.

I myself have had a person of the same gender try to force a mouth to mouth kiss on me at a party...and let's not get into the angsty drama I've seen with SL same gender relationships.

I know, this stuff isn't limited to just Gay/Lesbian couples; so this sounds biased and prejudiced. But, that's kind of my point: People form their opinions from thier experiences; you really have no other way to do so. This means that otherwise rational people can become very biased sounding if they are exposed to enough bad behaviour from a certain group of people.

You can only change yourself, and I believe people have a right to express love, regardless of gender. But I would point out that same sex couples are doing the 'gay marriage' issue no favors by tongue kissing each other in a public setting.

Remember, even a straight couple frenching in front of people would be told to "Get a room!" This isn't about gays shouldn't kiss. It's about social etiquette. And, frankly, a lot of the gay/lesbian folk I've met in my life could use some training in what is proper public behaviour.

Let the flaming commence!

This post is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read and I am reporting it as intolerant and homphobic. I suggest other's do as well.

I don't agree with you Kendra. Lio seems sincerely to be addressing public sexual manners applicable to any orientation.

I'm not interested in watching couples, triples, etc. of any gender combo make out in public. I agree totally with Get a Fucking Room!

And if you need credentials, I spent 16 years as an Out and politically-active lesbian. My partner and I made the front page of the Dallas Morning News with our Holy Union (which got us death threats btw).

I'm actually rather easily embarrassed and don't like to be around any PDAs at all. But it's odd that you practically never see anyone saying "those heterosexuals aren't doing themselves any favours when they make out in public", isn't it? It's not "ew that's icky", it's as if you have to earn some sort of right beforehand, as if anything you do has to be not only evaluated in terms of politeness but also politically.

i'm not interested in seeing PDA either. My pint is that Lio's post makes it seem as if gay people are more likely to engage in it than straight people. And if anything the reverse is true.

I'm not interested in watching couples, triples, etc. of any gender combo make out in public.

I feel that putting the word marriage in quotations is going to make me really dislike this thread. What do you think of "tolerance"?

I put marriage in quotations because I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. It's definitely not something I meant to be homophobic, as I've generally considered myself gay, tilting on bi.

What I think Chronic is saying, and what I meant with my quotes only thread, was you flavored the poll with the title itself. Why not leave the quotes off the title, and just express your opinions within it?

Civil unions for everybody! Hooooooooooo!

this is a good idea - one big civil union and be done with it.

I put marriage in quotations because I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. It's definitely not something I meant to be homophobic, as I've generally considered myself gay, tilting on bi.

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Now when it comes to the subject of public affection--this is an issue of traditions. I'm someone who thinks it would be great if people could have sex on a park bench (straight or gay) and not be persecuted, but that's not the reality I live in. In the States, nudity is looked at by the right wing as being as bad as seeing someone get shot and kicked in the face over and over again--they look at nudity, sex, and any showing of public affection to be somehow "damaging" to kids, and bad for society in general. Most of it is based on religious viewpoints, religious traditions. It's only been over the past 15-18 years that seeing a scene on prime time U.S. network television where two people having a conversation while in bed was considered acceptable, and about 13 years for people making out with clothes on on TV, and the right wing has been having a fit over it. Just look at the ridiculous big deal that was made over seeing Janet Jackson's breast.

this is a good idea - one big civil union and be done with it.

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