PC users who attack Macintosh

This thread is to discuss, rationally, the reasoning behind the PC user attacks on Macintosh. What are the underlying reasons for these attacks.

It's my humble opinion these attacks are used as a way make one feel important or shore up ones own belief system.

I feel the same about any belief system that seeks to build up its own credibility by attacking other's beliefs.

If these attacks made the attacker feel better about his/her belief system, I support their continued use. However, I don't believe anything positive can be gained by downgrading other's beliefs.

That's why I don't waste my time bashing other belief systems.

Discuss....

Edit: This thread concerns threads that were running at the time I posted this thread. It does not concern PC users in general.


*wink and nod*

*snort*

*nod and wink*

Personally, I think it's kind of a "bully" psychology, (much like the way the United States interacts with other countries in the world at large.)

Windows users, (and the US in the analgous situation) control almost the entire market. They dominate completely, and almost all software conforms to their specifications.

They are like the big bully on the playground. Mac is like the little skinny Jewish kid that is smarter than the bully and tough enough to refuse to knuckle under even though he gets beat up regularly.

The bully just can't stand the fact that the little skinny kid won't submit, and he secretly suspects that the smart little kid might be right about the bully's own shortcomings and fears being exposed or replaced someday. He continues to abuse the skinny kid out of fear and to prove his dominance.

If the bully really was comfortable with himself and his system (or by analogy if Windows really was the best OS or the US really was the best democracy in the world), they wouldn't have to beat all the little kids up to prove it.

They would merely lead by example and others would follow because it was right. Unfortunately, that role actually fits the skinny little guy better than it does the bully.

there needs to be more Mac PC threads

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I like the idea of Macs, it fits a niche and it's good at what it does

however as I said in several other threads, it doesn't look like Apple is going to keep pushing their Mac line, it costs more to produce powerbooks and G5's than it does to keep cranking out their I-pods...

I don't suspect they will abandon the Mac line as fast as they abandoned the Apple II line, but sadly I think they are headed that way

okay this worked on the last *so and so* who attack *so and so*


"THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!"
-Captain Piccard

I think the mentality comes from getting tired of the snooty attitude that comes out of many Mac users, just like how back in the day, Amiga users were really snooty about the Amiga.

One has to simply look at a Mac commercial to see that kind of attitude, and it's a very common attitude.

Another example is when Mac people put out posts as soon as a new mac comes out "Look, the latest and greatest mac is at a competitive price when compared to the latest and greatest PC" over and over again. I have a friend in California that starts going off on that subject over and over again every time I talk with him. The conversation always starts with that.

Mac people have a lot of hope, and they hope that Apple will get a stronghold on the computer market, just like back when I had an Amiga I hoped the same thing about the Amiga. There's nothing wrong with having hope until it starts getting preachy, and then one should expect that people will get tired of it.

Another reason why PC people rank on Mac people is: Try working on people's computers for a living and see the difference in person how much less people who use macs know about how computers work than people who use PC's. It's definitely not all the time, but it is most of the time that Mac users just don't care how computers work, they only care that they work, and they don't care how few games they can play on them. I know--the next thing said will be "oh, but the new macs can play PC games" and the response is--the only ones that will play games at a good framerate are the new mac pros which cost a LOT more than a single-core-processor PC with a good video card that can play those same games even faster because 99.9% of games can't take advantage of multiple cores.

If Mac people weren't so preachy, and they weren't constantly in the mode of "Macs are better!", PC people wouldn't be going off. If Mac people just talked about how much better OSX is than Windows, PC people wouldn't be going off--it's when Mac people try to make false statements that EVERYTHING about the Mac is better, which is simply not true. If you notice, PC people anymore aren't saying that PC's have better hardware, they're usually just trying to defend themselves against false statements made by Mac people.

When one really looks at it, it very much is like Christians (macs) vs. Atheists (PC's).

I have two words for Mac fans

Media Center

ooh... sooo close

Yeah, it is another good argument for OS X.

From my experience most PC users simply don't care about Macs, nor what they can or cannot do.

If aggression occurs, it's not as much 'beating the little smart kids because one is insecure' but rather kicking the 'ding dong, have you chosen to embrace the Mac already?' jehova witness of computer world off one's doorstep. The preachy attitude of "true believers" is simply too annoying, no matter the subject.

hehehe this is good.. though I disagree with that being the reason people beat up on MAC.. I think its because Macs are Smug.

Mac users don't actually make the commercials.

I've never met one who gives a toss what the market share is to be honest.

I don't know where you're finding these people, but I've never noticed any difference whatsoever. Most people don't care how computers work. And most people aren't that bothered about gaming.

No, that doesn't work either - you always get flamed for it.

Now you're just being silly.

not if you actually use it.

And don't get me wrong--I'm not stating that Mac people are Christians and PC people are Atheists either in any way--I'm just going by the methods used to talk about points of view.

Mac people have a tendency to talk about Macs the way that Christians talk about Christianity, and PC people talk about PC's the way that Atheists talk about Aheism.

Seriosly.. you just have to look at the new MAC ad campaigns.. its Ironic.. the "cool" one is a mac whilst the PC is a baldy business type.. odd that the baldy business type pwns the cool dude in the face when it comes to video games.. and seriosly.. can any PC photoshop users remember the last time it crashed on them??

I've just known too many examples of people that have ONLY used macs for over 10 years who know virtually nothing about computers. I've never known anyone who has used a PC for over 10 years who knows nothing about computers. Not one person. 4 to 6 years using a PC, yes, I've known people that are clueless about computers, but not 10 years or more.

As far as saying that most people aren't that bothered about gaming--I'd say that games are about 35% of the reason why people buy PC's for home use.

When it comes to people caring about the marketshare--they really don't care that much about the marketshare directly, but indirectly they do--the more people that use a Mac, the less people that they have to defend against.

The reason why the idea of just talking about OSX doesn't work either is because that never happens--the conversations ALWAYS go into why the Mac is better, not just the OS. Mac people just can't resist the temptation.

video games will replace movies as america's past time. you just cant deny the amount of growth in person computer games over the past 10 years. they went from being something of a novelity to being something that people walk into a store who know nothing about computers and go, "okay i got these games, and i want them to play on the new computer im goin to buy, which should i get"

now the reason for this, video games are like movies, cept your the star, and make all the decissions. sure there is a script that you follow, but your the star, plus for 50 bucks (or less) you can do the adventure over and over again as many times as you want, and usually have differnt paths to take each time. ask any 12 - 35 yr old what they do on computers, most of them will say "Play games" [and that other dark use ] so if you ignore the game market, the game market will ignore you... that is whole reason why there arnt many games for mac. [see above article about playing well with others...]

I'm apparently like the other 90% of america between 12 - 35, when i get done with work i wanna come home, have a beer[or root beer for those between the 12 - 21 XD], and blow some shit up on my computer.

of course one would argue that the constant push for bigger and better things, faster fps, faster cpu etc. has made the PC the unstable platform that it is, and to a degree they're right, but every modern fighter jet is inherently unstable [f-16, f-15, f-35, f-22, all your SU's and MiGs] which gives them greater flexibility and manuverablity.

Well the problem is regardless if mac users make the commercial or not the commercial comes off as them being smug. PC's arnt out there in commercials ranting how much better they are then a mac. The commercials give the wrong idea however there is a bit of things that were said that are true. Most comprehensive pc users worry alot about computers (me being an instance of it) while alot of comprehensive mac users dont care about the inner workings of a computer. A reasoning behind this is macs in general just really arnt that upgradeable. Alot of the hardware that is upgradeable is overtly expensive to.

There is a smug attitude from quite a few people that only use macs. I've run into it time and time again with people (friends, family, teachers). I am a pc user but i do acknowledge the mac is better with some things then a pc is however a pc can do the same things a mac can. Most of the things people spry over to a mac for are able to be done on a pc however what they can do out of box may vary but that capabilities are pretty much the same. I've used macs for graphics design and some audio related stuff however thats a few things they are good at.

Most of the mac commercials are way off base and alot of mac users opinions on Pc's are off base heavier. We dont so much attack mac's as defend ourselves against silly claims. Have half the people that rally on the mac side used pc's as of late and actually took the time to protect themselves. Big deal pc's can get viruses, get a fire wall and some anti virus programs not real hard. They have some comprehensive freebie ones out there. You see the attitude portrayed by the commercials is hey mac's can do more out of the box (alot of this is up to question anyways (plug and play does exist with devices) and they dont get viruses therefore they are better.

Pc's have their strong points and mac's have their strong points there isnt really a reason to fight. I think its more that we attack the company for their smug attitude and those mac users that seem smug.

Well, all I can say is that I most definitely have.

I wouldn't. I think I know maybe three people who actually care much about games; for everyone else, it's a bonus, but it's not why they buy the computer.

Well, no, not really. It might be *nice* to have fewer people around who will go on a rant about Macs whenever you even mention you own one, but most people just use the things because they like them or they're used to them and don't care about however many other people do as well, as long as they can get the support they need (which they can), have a reasonable amount of software (which they do) and interoperate with Windows systems (which they mostly can).

Okay, the previous statements are a matter of personal experience but I MUST disagree with this one. I absolutely guarantee that if I posted ten reasons why I think OS X is superior to XP in any computer-related forum I would be flamed in seconds. It's got better since so many *nix geeks have investigated OS X recently, but it is still practically impossible to have a sensible discussion on the matter.

You seem to be denying the existence of Windows zealots - they exist, just like Mac zealots and Sony zealots and AMD zealots and people who will take pretty much any opportunity to tell you why they are right and you are a loser based on what technology you use or what team you support or whatever. The proportion of Windows users to Mac users is high enough that the proportion of zealots is also going to be high. You may not notice them as a Windows user but as a Mac or Linux user you definitely do.

(Incidentally, for the record, I have three Mac laptops, ran Linux for three years and am currently typing this on my new PC running XP Pro. I use the tool for the job.)

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http://news.com.com/2010-1041_3-6056161.html

Haha.. Ill tell my story of why I have(had really) a dislike of Mac's..

In highschool I was choosing my subject and wow, computer programming, awsome! I was excpecting at lease decent pc's and maybe C, C++... Hell even quick basic.
NOPE! Slowest computers I ever seen in my life, and they happened to be mac's. And then something else horrific happened, we were learning HyperTalk!! HYPERTALK!!!! My god, I wanted programming not a lame excuse for scripting.

But now they they got awsome hardware and you can run mac or PC operating systems, So I don't really dislike them anymore.

Personaly I used both for a long time in the course of 25 years.......Apple IIplus user here.....
Later Mac etc etc etc etc etc. then Windows. But because of my business i been involved with i learn what the company had.
Hate!?............NO! like yes......
People either too young or really narrow minded about things really should think.If not for Apple the computer world would not be it as it is today.......Steve Jobs BLUCK! Years ago he was a god.................But now he just a Cheaper version Of Bill Gates.......

No offense Billybob but have you actually seen the built in media centre with remote control that has shipped in ever Mac for the last year or more? There are advantages to Windows for sure, but this was a poor choice of example.

My G5 desktop comes complete with all the software to play movies, music, slideshows etc. right out of the box and its all controlled by an ultra slick 3d interface and a tiny iPod like remote that sticks magnetically to the side of the computer.

The capabilities are awesome, the interface is minimal and intuitive you don't have to buy a whole second computer for your living room to use it. The media centre remote has what, fifty buttons or something?

The most up-to-date incarnations of media centre are left in the dust by what Mac is already shipping with every computer for free.