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Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

07-30-2004 11:10

It works for me too!

Taun is now the proud new owner of a custom colored ARMORD 09 avatar.

Yay!

Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

1.4.9 RESETS AGP HACK

08-06-2004 15:06

1.4.9 just came out and undid my hack. You'll need to reapply it!

Sidenote: 1.4.9 took about 5 minutes to actually shut down the first time out. I'll update if it repeats.

Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

08-06-2004 15:47

I assumed any new updates would reset the file, so I already updated it.

Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-06-2004 16:02

the 5 minute shutdown to SL is still happening, i'll bug report it. if anyone else sees this behavior report it too

Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-06-2004 20:32

From: someone

Originally posted by Taun Patel
the 5 minute shutdown to SL is still happening, i'll bug report it. if anyone else sees this behavior report it too

That's strange. Launching and quitting SL 1.4.9 happens in under 10 seconds for me.

Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-07-2004 06:09

It finally stopped. I deleted my cache.

Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-07-2004 20:56

Rumor about 10.3.5

From: someone

New Mac OS X 10.3.5 developer seed Build 7M32 of Mac OS X 10.3.5 was seeded to developers Friday.

Its file size has remained basically unchanged at 42MB, but the seed notes did list a handful of changes for testers to focus on:

*Safari/Webkit
*File Sharing
*GPU drivers
*Core Graphics
*Core Audio
*Bluetooth

Most sources continue to project the release of 10.3.5 in September, following Apple's next major product release event -- probably featuring the iMac G5.

Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-09-2004 15:02

10.3.5 is available now via Software Update! I'm downloading it right now. I'll report back, hopefully, about frame rate improvements.

Goshua Lament

Registered User

Join date: 25 Dec 2003

Posts: 703

08-09-2004 15:12

From: someone

Originally posted by Aren Mandala
10.3.5 is available now via Software Update! I'm downloading it right now. I'll report back, hopefully, about frame rate improvements.

Be sure to post how it goes. Is it stable? Did it break any apps or functions? Should I make a CD backup before installing?

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Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-09-2004 15:21

I love it when Software Update bounces and says there are new updates to the OS! It's like (insert denominational or non-denominational holiday of your choice here) ! I'll try AGP in a window (and most likely will crash hard) and report back

Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-09-2004 15:40

Here's my quick report. Window mode works with AGP! I didn't see much difference in top frame rates but they did seem much more consistent. In other words they didn't drop to nothing everytime I tried to turn around.

As far as the system, everything seems fine so far. Airport works, bluetooth works, Internet, email, etc, all working. At least for 15 min. now.

Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-09-2004 16:10

Ditto! I've been in world for about 15 min too, and things are going well, in a window no less! This will make scripting (and consequently visitng the Wiki every 10 sec) a lot easier (tho i figured out you can get to the desktop by hitting ` while the chat bar is closed, do you thing and just cancel the screen shot mode). Woohoo! LL, you can probably give us the check box back

! We'll keep playing to see if it blows up but seems solid so far.

Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-09-2004 16:46

Also, I seem to remember Robin Linden saying (or implying) that a new version of SL would take advantage of the new drivers in 10.3.5. So we may see more improvement with 1.4.10.

Hank Ramos

Lifetime Scripter

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

08-09-2004 17:10

Buy a Nvidia card. ATI will always suck when playing SL. It's the easiest way.

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Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-09-2004 17:12

Hank, it's not that easy with most Macs. The Powerbook line isn't upgradable as far as video cards are concerned, and neither is the iMac or eMac line (all three are very powerful computers, SL is the only program I've ever had problems running on my Aluminum 15"

. Apple puts ATI's in almost everything, so that's why we have problems.

Hank Ramos

Lifetime Scripter

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

08-09-2004 17:27

LL is obviously not interested in supporting ATI. I had to switch to Nvidia on the PC just to get away from the problems. It'd be easier for those that can switch to Nvidia, to do so. Unfortunately, that's just he way it is.

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Taun Patel

Geothermal Madman

Join date: 5 Mar 2004

Posts: 222

08-09-2004 17:35

SL is rocking over here for me. I'm in a window, in AGP mode and it's working really well, 14-15 FPS in a large build im working on (and tons of snow particles from neighbors flowing in) ... no problems so far. I think LL was telling the truth when they said the drivers were hosed, not their program cuz the last OS update has worked wonders for me

Goshua Lament

Registered User

Join date: 25 Dec 2003

Posts: 703

08-09-2004 17:36

From: someone

Originally posted by Hank Ramos
LL is obviously not interested in supporting ATI. I had to switch to Nvidia on the PC just to get away from the problems. It'd be easier for those that can switch to Nvidia, to do so. Unfortunately, that's just he way it is.

Hey, it gives me an excuse to buy one of those new nVidias for my Powermac. How are the framerates since 10.3.5?

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Aren Mandala

Registered User

Join date: 21 Jan 2004

Posts: 82

08-10-2004 13:39

Mac Beta Thread

Here's the thread where Robin Linden talks about waiting on 10.3.5 before the Mac client becomes official (not beta).

I want my AGP back!
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	07-30-2004 11:10 It works for me too! Taun is now the proud new owner of a custom colored ARMORD 09 avatar. Yay!
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	1.4.9 RESETS AGP HACK 08-06-2004 15:06 1.4.9 just came out and undid my hack. You'll need to reapply it! Sidenote: 1.4.9 took about 5 minutes to actually shut down the first time out. I'll update if it repeats.
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	08-06-2004 15:47 I assumed any new updates would reset the file, so I already updated it.
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-06-2004 16:02 the 5 minute shutdown to SL is still happening, i'll bug report it. if anyone else sees this behavior report it too
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-06-2004 20:32 From: someone Originally posted by Taun Patel the 5 minute shutdown to SL is still happening, i'll bug report it. if anyone else sees this behavior report it too That's strange. Launching and quitting SL 1.4.9 happens in under 10 seconds for me.
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-07-2004 06:09 It finally stopped. I deleted my cache.
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-07-2004 20:56 Rumor about 10.3.5 From: someone New Mac OS X 10.3.5 developer seed Build 7M32 of Mac OS X 10.3.5 was seeded to developers Friday. Its file size has remained basically unchanged at 42MB, but the seed notes did list a handful of changes for testers to focus on: Safari/Webkit File Sharing GPU drivers Core Graphics Core Audio Bluetooth Most sources continue to project the release of 10.3.5 in September, following Apple's next major product release event -- probably featuring the iMac G5.
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-09-2004 15:02 10.3.5 is available now via Software Update! I'm downloading it right now. I'll report back, hopefully, about frame rate improvements.
Goshua Lament Registered User Join date: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 703	08-09-2004 15:12 From: someone Originally posted by Aren Mandala 10.3.5 is available now via Software Update! I'm downloading it right now. I'll report back, hopefully, about frame rate improvements. Be sure to post how it goes. Is it stable? Did it break any apps or functions? Should I make a CD backup before installing? _____________________ Flickr Second Life Photo Gallery I no longer regularly login to SecondLife, but please contact me if an issue arises that needs my attention.
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-09-2004 15:21 I love it when Software Update bounces and says there are new updates to the OS! It's like (insert denominational or non-denominational holiday of your choice here) ! I'll try AGP in a window (and most likely will crash hard) and report back
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-09-2004 15:40 Here's my quick report. Window mode works with AGP! I didn't see much difference in top frame rates but they did seem much more consistent. In other words they didn't drop to nothing everytime I tried to turn around. As far as the system, everything seems fine so far. Airport works, bluetooth works, Internet, email, etc, all working. At least for 15 min. now.
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-09-2004 16:10 Ditto! I've been in world for about 15 min too, and things are going well, in a window no less! This will make scripting (and consequently visitng the Wiki every 10 sec) a lot easier (tho i figured out you can get to the desktop by hitting ` while the chat bar is closed, do you thing and just cancel the screen shot mode). Woohoo! LL, you can probably give us the check box back ! We'll keep playing to see if it blows up but seems solid so far.
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-09-2004 16:46 Also, I seem to remember Robin Linden saying (or implying) that a new version of SL would take advantage of the new drivers in 10.3.5. So we may see more improvement with 1.4.10.
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	08-09-2004 17:10 Buy a Nvidia card. ATI will always suck when playing SL. It's the easiest way. _____________________
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-09-2004 17:12 Hank, it's not that easy with most Macs. The Powerbook line isn't upgradable as far as video cards are concerned, and neither is the iMac or eMac line (all three are very powerful computers, SL is the only program I've ever had problems running on my Aluminum 15". Apple puts ATI's in almost everything, so that's why we have problems.
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	08-09-2004 17:27 LL is obviously not interested in supporting ATI. I had to switch to Nvidia on the PC just to get away from the problems. It'd be easier for those that can switch to Nvidia, to do so. Unfortunately, that's just he way it is. _____________________
Taun Patel Geothermal Madman Join date: 5 Mar 2004 Posts: 222	08-09-2004 17:35 SL is rocking over here for me. I'm in a window, in AGP mode and it's working really well, 14-15 FPS in a large build im working on (and tons of snow particles from neighbors flowing in) ... no problems so far. I think LL was telling the truth when they said the drivers were hosed, not their program cuz the last OS update has worked wonders for me
Goshua Lament Registered User Join date: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 703	08-09-2004 17:36 From: someone Originally posted by Hank Ramos LL is obviously not interested in supporting ATI. I had to switch to Nvidia on the PC just to get away from the problems. It'd be easier for those that can switch to Nvidia, to do so. Unfortunately, that's just he way it is. Hey, it gives me an excuse to buy one of those new nVidias for my Powermac. How are the framerates since 10.3.5? _____________________ Flickr Second Life Photo Gallery I no longer regularly login to SecondLife, but please contact me if an issue arises that needs my attention.
Aren Mandala Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 82	08-10-2004 13:39 Mac Beta Thread Here's the thread where Robin Linden talks about waiting on 10.3.5 before the Mac client becomes official (not beta).

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