Ban Tringo/slingo
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oliver Prototype
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07-31-2005 10:18
i recently just started secondlife again after 6 months of not playing and i noticed the whole of the events board is litteredwith tringo/slingo events. i tried hosting a water feature class today and 2 people came instead of the 25 or so i used to have before slingo/tringo.
slingo/tringo = trash
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Branduff Kojima
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07-31-2005 10:46
From: oliver Prototype i recently just started secondlife again after 6 months of not playing and i noticed the whole of the events board is litteredwith tringo/slingo events. i tried hosting a water feature class today and 2 people came instead of the 25 or so i used to have before slingo/tringo.
slingo/tringo = trash I wholeheartedly agree with you on that last part, but it's crazy to think of banning something because it's gotten completely out of control. Even if it is spreading like wildfire, and ruining the entire metaverse. I think, instead of banning slingo/tringo/whatever we should encourage other events. Rewards for educational events, things like that. Also, it would be a good idea for people to continue to watch the event's board, even if it is all the same, occasionally something will come up that is worthwhile, and just attending this event encourages the host to host more often. It's hopeless right now, I know, but we have to persevere. Maybe Slingo, Tringo, Bingo, and all of those will stay popular, but that doesn't mean we have to just give up on everyone else, does it? I think from now on I am going to make an added effort to watch out for original events, and attend them, I also think it would be great if other people did the same... (BTW has anyone told the creators of SLINGO that they're game is being ripped off completely, and is being sold in secondlife? That would also help the state of the events board 
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Branduff Kojima
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07-31-2005 11:23
Also, someone suggested flash mobs. We could have huge amounts of people storm tringo events, lagging the events to hell. But that's kind of... bad.
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Blueman Steele
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How would that work?
07-31-2005 12:54
How would banning tringo/slingo help that?
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oliver Prototype
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08-01-2005 07:47
banning tringo/slingo would allow other events to be seen easily and there would be more people to go to proper events
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Nyx Divine
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08-01-2005 08:09
I can't believe I'm reading this. Am I biased...yes. Banning an activity 'cuz YOU don't like it? Not gonna happen. And I know or HOPE the flash mob idea is a bad joke, if not enjoy the 3 day suspension.
Haven't we done this to death? If you don't like it DON'T GO!!! If it wasn't successful you wouldn't see it BEING so successful.
Oh and please define a 'proper event' *giggles*
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Gravecat Martov
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08-01-2005 08:36
I'm inclined to agree. While I've been known to enjoy a game of Tringo on occasion, it's just ridiculous when 90% or more of the events are just "COME AND PLAY SLINGO HERE!1111" and whatnot. I'm not sure whether the original poster meant to ban Slingo/Tringo entirely, or just ban them from being listed as events -- the former seems silly, but the latter seems quite reasonable to me. It's not exactly hard to find a place to play, if you really want to, so do the rest of us really have to have the events list spammed to hell by greedy casino owners wanting more traffic for their *ingo games?
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Mewcenary Bernstein
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08-01-2005 08:52
I think a ban on events WHICH ADVERTISE THEMSELVES IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS would be a good start to making it easier to parse the events list.
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Pratyeka Muromachi
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08-01-2005 08:58
Ridiculous! "learning" events are by definition devoid of "mass appeal". *ingo events need not much effort from the participant, unlike educational events.
The only way to make learning events popular is to give instant gratification to participant. I.E.: door prizes, free stuff, maybe a competition, and most importantly; an interesting, enjoyable and captivating lecture or activity.
But still, eve with the best format ever, only a minority of people will attend any type of class/course, just because they are in SL to have fun... and their kind of fun has nothing to do with learning.
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Pol Tabla
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08-01-2005 09:05
I think this is an excellent suggestion. LL should ban anything that becomes too popular. Except, what will you have as a scapegoat the next time you host an event that doesn't draw an audience?
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Tiger Crossing
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08-01-2005 09:12
Hmmm.... "Lets ban the most popular class of events" doesn't seem like a platform that's going to be well supported by the majority. (Who are all out playing *ingo.)
The complaint here is, I think, that the rash of *ingo games are downing out the other events in the listing. The goal is to give those other events more visiblity. My first suggestion would be to make the events listing more compartmentalized so that people looking for something to do have to pick a category instead of getting everything at once.
But I'd be happy with Google-like search modifiers. A find for "-slingo -bingo -tringo" would be one I would use often. (The minus sign before the word means "results that DON'T have this word.)
Banning a generality is a form of arbitrary rule. Arbitrary rules cause inequality (people with a Tringo event become second-class citizens on the event board, in this example). Inequality leads to conflict and anger. And, as Yoda would say, we end up with "suf-fer-ing!"
Laws/rules that control only sub-portions of populations are almost never good ideas... "Only people with [specific physical description] have human rights." "People with [lack or presence of Y chromosome] can't vote." "Game event organizers of [game event type] can't list their events."
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Travis Lambert
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08-01-2005 12:18
I think I'm one of the few people left in SL who has never played --Ingo, never been to a --Ingo event, and really am not too interested in it.
That said, restricting something just because we don't like it goes against everything I beleve in.
A better interface with filters can solve this problem. That would accomodate everyone from the casual Tringo player to the intellectual looking for an interesting discussion.
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Charlton Cline
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08-01-2005 15:19
What I got out of the OP was "Ban the events that are popular because I can't get players to come to mine!"
.... Umm...okay...
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Stormy Twilight
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08-01-2005 15:29
I think that puts us in the same class Travis, as I've never been to one either. Having no interest to even find out what it is, I can sympathize with the original poster that it is very frustrating trying to browse events and thats all you can see. However, I do agree that banning a particular type of event because of its popularity is a very bad idea that will go nowhere. I do think that the ability to filter events is a good one. A check box system could work, 'to include' or 'do not include', for example. In fact this is something I would definately spend my SL Votes on, if someone were to do a proposal for it. *hint-hint* 
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Learning not fun?
08-16-2005 08:02
From: Pratyeka Muromachi But still, eve with the best format ever, only a minority of people will attend any type of class/course, just because they are in SL to have fun... and their kind of fun has nothing to do with learning.
Learning is not fun? Residents are only here for gambling and gratuitous AV sex? Come on. Give us all a little credit. I came searching for a "game" like SL. I have been a resident for one week and I have so far attended a poetry reading, gone to a club, gotten a modeling job, attended a building tutorial, and more. I hope that more learned residents host events that are about more than just gambling, because if that's all I was looking for I could do that for free on msn! Bring on the book discussions, Tai Chi classes, and anything else we can think of that can enhance this SL experience, not just reduce it to chat rooms with graphics or gambling addiction enablement.
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Usagi Musashi
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08-16-2005 09:30
Have you noticed the explosition of new games? Gaming is fun, but too much is not healthy for this game. Some say sex should be taken out of the game.Well If this is true then take out gambling as well as these are mind screwing games as well. What worse Gambling or Sex? Well..........Think about it. Tringo is just another way of gambling WHICH IS ADDITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCALE IT BACK!
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a lost user
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08-16-2005 09:34
meh..
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Gleeb Gupte
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08-16-2005 09:55
I would propose that all gambling events be listed as 'mature', there by allowing an easy way of filtering out the *ingo events. That single change has the potential to restore the events listing to something useful Infact, I just proposed it... http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=556
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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08-16-2005 10:00
I suggest adding a "!keyword" search option. ! = Do not include. Thus you can search events for: !tringo !slingo !xxx and you will get all events except ones with that word/words.  Heck, make it persistant, like the Mute List. So you can permanently exclude words of your choice. Just my .02L$
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Liv Karuna
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click here for an ingo free environment.
08-16-2005 11:30
Although I applaud their game success, I remain committed to holding an "ingo" free (no Slingo, Bingo or Tringo) environment at Club Belle Feu Nouveau no matter how many Lindens those games bring in.
So for an ingo free environment and an excellent club experience check out the live musicians showcasing their talent at Club Belle Feu Nouveu. To gain advance notice of live events at the club, IM Liv Karuna for your invitation to the Group. It will entitle you to our cleverly worded club spam as well as invitations and notices about LIVE events.
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Snakeye Plisskin
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08-16-2005 13:46
Hey Travis, your not alone. I've never played 'ingo either. No inclination to ever start.
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Queenie Extraordinaire
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08-16-2005 16:11
From: Snakeye Plisskin Hey Travis, your not alone. I've never played 'ingo either. No inclination to ever start. Ditto here..... And as such, my club shall also remain *ingo-free. To each their own! 
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EmeraldEver Cline
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08-16-2005 18:40
Personally, I want more Quintzee. I read the event board wrong today and ended up at a raffle. Didn't win a dang thing...
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Usagi Musashi
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08-16-2005 21:06
Why don`t they post gambing as non pg? Muture sim it should be in not PG. Strange then again I see some club in PG and post escort rooms etc in this fashion. Ok behind close door is the rule here but come on. Then again this is same club post " WE HAVE experience mentors for understanding second life"  there are only one set of mentors you can trust they are LL mentors). Strange how people say one thing and do another breaking the rules or fooling the public just to get dwelling. I never trusted that club from the start.
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Byron McHenry
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08-16-2005 21:41
if they didnt ban the clubs and casinos when they were the only events up then they wont ban tringo
but realy just creat a tab for reapeat event and remove the clutter or a section for board games.
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