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I am ready to give up on events.

Susie Boffin
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Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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12-19-2005 20:41
I had an event today that all of 4 people showed up for and I can tell you why. I don't offer camping chairs or naked schoolgirls squirming on dance poles. It was a nice PG type dancing event and 2 of my old friends showed up much to their credit but many of my old friends did not show up despite me attending many of their events. They won't be seeing me at their events any more. :)

Is everyone so concerned with profit in SL that they can't even come to a plain old fun event?
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Susie, Hang on tight
12-19-2005 21:10
's gonna be a wacky SL world for a bit. I'd bet ya that we see the end of money chairs as a significant draw with the end of dwell. In 3 months time you may be having those same friends bored out of their skulls pestering you to put on an event.

If you feel like paying the teir to support other people's entertainment, maybe you'll even do it. :-)
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Zapoteth Zaius
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12-19-2005 21:14
I know what you mean.. Sooner or later theres gonna have to be an Events Linden as far as I'm concerned.. Or someone whose job it is to police the events calender..

And they need more catagories..
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Susie Boffin
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12-19-2005 21:42
Thank you guys for your support. I needed that. In the meantime I think I will join the crowd and post a non-event in events!
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Zapoteth Zaius
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12-19-2005 21:43
New Event: Come help me talk about how crap events are.. While I'm not there.. At my store.. Which sells shoes.. Which has a 20% off sale! And makes the bestest most comfortable shoes ever!
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Susie Boffin
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12-19-2005 21:49
Please see my event for 12/20 at high noon:)
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Gabe Lippmann
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12-19-2005 22:27
From: Zapoteth Zaius
New Event: Come help me talk about how crap events are.. While I'm not there.. At my store.. Which sells shoes.. Which has a 20% off sale! And makes the bestest most comfortable shoes ever!


At what rate do the chairs pay out? I have a previous engagement, but could be persuaded to make an adjustment to my plans. I don't wear shoes and my Master doesn't allow me to talk inworld, but it sounds like it might be the event for me.
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Charissa Metropolitan
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Join date: 14 Dec 2005
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12-20-2005 06:05
Every time I look for events or try ones, it's 'how naked can you get' or 'whose got the most nakedness' or 'dance until you get naked' or something stupid like 'vote for the next king and queen of our club.... when naked!'.

Why can't people plan events that would actually be fun? It isn't like it is hard to do. If I had the money to afford land and a club, you can bet your bippy I'd be tossing some different and exciting fun on it.

Maybe the problem is that people don't really care if they are giving visitors good service, they just want the bonus of having people on their land.

I have yet to see a club or event where the people running it were organized enough to either greet people by name when they arrived or had someone there to do it. Worse yet are the people who manage to greet you by name then clam up and ignore you because you're not throwing money into their laps.

Let alone plan for more than 'let's play music, click the board/ball to dance, don'tforgettovisitourmallandspendyourmoney'.

I never tried a money chair. I haven't visited money trees. I am not here to make mad cash. I just want to see interesting things (which I do), meet interesting people (which I do), and on occasion, visit a club that has more going on than how fast you can get your pixels off (entendre as you like) or 'dance in silence, because the people who know each other are chatting privately'.

I didn't think that was a lot to ask. Apparently, I was wrong. :(
Surreal Farber
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12-20-2005 06:15
The end of the Developers Incentive will probably impact the dwell type events, hopefully leaving more room for interesting things. What kind of event did you have Susie?

I know we stopped doing events not because people didn't show up, but because they were so time demanding. The Tiny Critter Expo (the last event we did in Chaos) lagged the sim to jello for 4 days, attracted a couple of griefers, was a big headache handling vendor logistics. And that doesn't include advertising the event, or dropping everything else for 4 days to oversee it.

None of that counts the difficulty in getting word of your event out to SL as a whole.
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Sara Steinbeck
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12-20-2005 07:12
Virtual worlds can get boring unless you are hooked on chatting...which I am not in RL so it's pretty much the way I am in SL life too which leaves me little to do in SL. I like to converse or discuss things...not chit chat so to speak. so I fail to develope any lasting online friendships like one can in RL.

I visited an exclusive club called "The Edge" the other night. All the dance pads said $6/10min for "edge dancers only". So I asked them about that and they said that I am welcome to use the dance pad but I don't get paid to use it unless I am an "edge dancer"....oh yea! That sounds like tons of fun to me....right! Now even if I were a chatter...they seemed very clickish and in their own little world. Not easy to fit into it unless you are one of them. I don't have the time to spend trying to worm my way into something like this....so I left. I have walked away from many sites such as this for the same reasons....no incentive to stick around.

People need motivation to attend an event. Let's face it, I don't need to see anymore stores with skimpy underware ads...they are everywhere you turn around and it's getting old. I can see that the "sexual sites" do very well...but I guess you have to be one to get off on "cyber sex" to find that a motivation... I don't. I may sound like I must be a boring person so that is why I get bored here...but in actuality, in RL I am far from it. I have tons of hobbies and friends and things to do. I thought I'd ad SL to my hobby list and at first it was fun. But, unless there are lots of games to play and some ways to make some money I lose interest. I'd like to regain that interest but I am not very "computer creative" so I am not able to bring anything to the SL table of entertainment. I am counting on the "intelligent residents" who know their stuff to keep me interested in comming back here.

If you have events that are unique and fun I will always give it try...I may stay 1 minute or I may stay the duration. It all depends on what the event has to offer, just like in RL.
luminye Onizuka
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Join date: 28 Mar 2004
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granted: some things will change
12-20-2005 07:31
I know dwell will change considerable for some people with high incentive after its gone. SL is just not about money and there are some events that go on taht are fun to have that seem to be overlooked because of the camping chairs, dancing pads, and even slingo. Anything that pays money. I realize that alot of people have certain wages or no wages. I suggest that maybe have some events where you pay to see or host auctions for some people to make honest money. I have taken in consideration of all the changes and i have decided why not hire a person to help me in my shop and greet people. There is also a way to make money to make up for what you give out. Noone ever uses it, but you can charge for certain events. Like boxing, horse racing, fashion shows... and of course have events that are not all about money but something that will attract people. How many show and tells do you see anymore? Or meet and greet events? I also have decided to do these events every two weeks. See how it goes...
Molly Montale
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Join date: 3 Nov 2005
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12-20-2005 07:59
I arrived at the posted start time for a PG Cristmasy event last night. There was no one there. I walked around for 30 minutes and finally left. The host never even showed up.
I still had some time to kill and ended up at one of the dance pad places.
Ilianexsi Sojourner
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12-20-2005 08:22
From: Charissa Metropolitan

I have yet to see a club or event where the people running it were organized enough to either greet people by name when they arrived or had someone there to do it. Worse yet are the people who manage to greet you by name then clam up and ignore you because you're not throwing money into their laps.


Every time I've been at Shelter, I've seen people greeted by name... the place is geared toward making newbies feel welcome, but it's also just a cool place to hang out. They don't have dance pads or camping chairs, no strippers or 'naked' events, the people are generally friendly and willing to talk to you... plus, they have other events there, trivia things and Payment Podium.
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Garnet Psaltery
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12-20-2005 09:04
We try hard to make people feel welcome at our Sunday dances on Cosy Home island, and they don't cost anything. We did have a raffle ball for the formal dance as a special event but no-one was asked to pay for it.

I hope to get some interesting things happening in the little cafe there as well - so much depends on the time of day though. Euro evenings are generally the best for me so drop me an IM, anyone, if you can come along then. Ideas welcome :)
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Sansarya Caligari
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12-20-2005 09:35
I have a little bar based on one I was in last year in Indianapolis. It's small, intimate, has a good jazz music stream, and some tables and a piano. I designed it as a sort of retreat from the insanity of Christmas shopping and stress.

So far I've met four new friends there, two who want to host events. I didn't really design it for events. There is no money ball. There are no dance machines or raffles or contests. You can't earn money from being there, and it doesn't gather much dwell at all, but we have fun just talking, dancing a little, sitting around, and, yes, discussing our first, second, and third lives (WoW, heh).

I guess the point is, if you build the places you would like to go and host one or two small events, maybe you'll not gather HUGE amounts of people there, but you will find some like-minded people who show up and hang around and become good friends. :)
Barbarra Blair
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12-20-2005 09:37
I've tried, but it is hard work to plan a fun event. I mean, how much more fun can you get than roach stomping for cash?

But seriously, I've just run out of prims and time.

But don't get discouraged if attendence is lousy right now, everyone is busy with holiday stuff.
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12-20-2005 09:48
From: Charissa Metropolitan
I have yet to see a club or event where the people running it were organized enough to either greet people by name when they arrived or had someone there to do it. Worse yet are the people who manage to greet you by name then clam up and ignore you because you're not throwing money into their laps.


Well run clubs are out there. The Shelter is great, fun trivia, friendly people. Club Akasha at Akasha Village also has friendly people who will greet everyone that comes through the door and are not concerned with people "throwing money into their laps", not to mention a killer look right now.


From: someone
Why can't people plan events that would actually be fun? It isn't like it is hard to do. If I had the money to afford land and a club, you can bet your bippy I'd be tossing some different and exciting fun on it.


Hey, let's get those ideas out in the open then. People who want to do something different are having trouble figuring out what that is. Help them out!
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Cherry Took
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12-20-2005 11:47
We typically not only greet people, we often chat newcomers up, and sometimes end
up hiring them! :-) There are lots of things to do here, from skee ball to dancing, to other kinds of events entirely. I run a group bedtime story telling event each wednesday night at 9 and that's pretty fun.

Each person adds 3 lines to the story, making it up as we go and then there is an alternate endings contest where the winner wins the chance to name the story and a prize (usually something donated by the spa plaza or the naughty fun store). Then the stories the group makes are archived in our library. I promise, you won't be ignored or treated rudely at the spa. Most of the time, the people who come to visit us are actually asked to participate in the event at hand by making it happen. If you like that kind of thing, come check us out at the Phoenix Spa Resort in Sylvina.
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JackBurton Faulkland
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12-20-2005 12:09
I am a club part owner I do the scripting and building in our club. My partner who is great with people, does the events and planning. She wanted to do money chairs because we couldnt compete with the other clubs that are doing so. I had to put my foot down even though it would of brought us in dwell. I explained that we don't want people coming to our club just for the money, we want them to come so they can enjoy themselves and have fun, these are the people we want because they will come because they want to not because of greed. Slowly but surely we are building a good base of exceptional people and with the end of the dwell incentive I feel it will get only better. We started off as an adult club because it was so simple to make but we are transitioning into a more friendly more interactive club that we hope can attract all kinds of people.
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Surreal Farber
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12-20-2005 12:24
I seem to be side noting alot to day, but I can tell you why I don't hang out in SL clubs, and I doubt I would pay to go to one.

In RL I go to a club to dance (the way it makes my body feel can't be matched by an Av); drink, and pick up congenial (and one prays skilled) company for some erotic exercise.

I don't socialize in clubs.

I suppose I could dance in the living room while interacting in SL, drink at my elbow... and if they get the "chicken petting suit" done, well....

IMO SL clubs don't serve the purposes of RL clubs...not even smoky
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12-20-2005 12:36
From: Surreal Farber
I suppose I could dance in the living room while interacting in SL, drink at my elbow... and if they get the "chicken petting suit" done, well....


Hey! That's me. Except for the dancing, interacting in SL and the chicken suit.

Maybe I should get out more... :(
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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12-20-2005 12:55
I gave up on events way back around July-September sometime...

Got tired of 2 pages of 24/7 Tringo adverts and stopped using the event listings entirely.

I'll stick with the new system Flip and co got going in SLB. :>
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William Withnail
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12-20-2005 14:06
Withnail Academy hosts many serious and not-so-serious discussions.

Friday evenings are Tall Tales, where we recount our greatest adventures to an admiring audience.

Monday evenings are for serious discussions. We discuss topics of import, topics related to work, topics related to Education, philosophical matters, ethical mattes, matters of ecomony.

We are in no way connected to the exclusive group "RL work in SL". However, we do discuss topics related to RL work in SL. Additionally, we invite their members to share in the open discussion. If you're on any of the following groups, you might expect to receive an invitation: Thinkers, SL University, Withnail Academy, RL work in SL.

You're welcome to come anytime, hang about, and listen to the fine opera stream from Swiss Radio.

We have transcripts of previous discussions and tall tales in the library.


Susie, I feel your pain. It's hard to get people to sit down for a discussion if the chair isn't paying them for their time.
Tya Fallingbridge
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12-20-2005 16:18
I personally think the word "Event" is thrown around to much. What most "Events" are in SL are gatherings. To me , an Event is something that is large scale, not shopping, sales, clubs, hirings, tringo, slingo, bingo blah blah etc.

My club and djs host "gatherings" I am proud of my djs and staff for not using the sexual part, but rather they are creative. I have a club on my sim, because I enjoyed building and creating a club like atmosphere for visitors. Dont get me wrong we are adults and if its late late at night, there has been an occasion where things have gotten adult, but its kept in the club and not for public viewing. We have from 10 - 40 people who show up for our gatherings and as I have said before, if one person walks away happy, it was a success.

I think LL needs to rethink the word Event.

Event = large scale ie, festivals, expos etc...projects people have come together to work on to bring value and entertainment.
Gathering = this is done on the fly, like parties in clubs, contest,
Games= Tringo and the rest.
Education= scripting, building, land

Just my two cents :)


~Tya
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Aliasi Stonebender
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12-20-2005 16:30
I find if you unclick the "show mature" box in the event calendar, the only event thus far I've possibly missed that is interesting is the occasional "Mature Captions" one thrown by Trimming Hedges.

Sure, there's still a lot of bleh, but you at least avoid having "best naked pixel" events take up valuable screen space while you search.
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