Events Filter - commercial vs social.

Hmmm lets see,

This is a Commercial Event - by attending this event it will cost you $L to participate or you will be asked to spend $L at this location.

This is a Social Event - attending this event will be free to participants & no monetary outlay will be required (Charity events excepted)

So therefore.........

Sexiest Avatar at Club Wiggle
$250 best female
$250 best male

would be listed as...............MATURE/SOCIAL

Avent Garde Art Presents....
An evening of poetry and song

would be listed as.................SOCIAL

Bingo at the Shed
$25 per game with pots of up to $500

would be listed as................COMMERCIAL

Grand Opening of Bondage for ALL
Come see our new range of leather/fetish wear

would be listed as.............MATURE/COMMERCIAL

Toys for Tots at Club Tringo Addicts
Come play a few games in aid of charity for kids

would be listed as.............SOCIAL

See? it's just common sense.All you need are 3 filters & you net the lot.It's just a matter of recognising an events PRIMARY function.

I disagree with you putting Tringo in the commercial box and like others have said, we need a wider choice of categories. No-one is forced to put money in the tringo pot although most do, so how can you call this commercial?

Primtionary is a great game. A person who guesses a word gets 25L from Freya and the majority of people put money in her pot. Again, not commercial.

I honestly think if you had a separate category for, example, poetry and arts, very few people would hold such events and even fewer would attend.

That doesn't mean that I am not sick of seeing the same thing posted every hour of the day and I have to look really hard in the events list to find somthing of interest to me.

Alexa

I didnt say Tringo was Commercial, but the fact remains if people dont put money in you cant play unless the hosts foots the bill which they dont do.



You are splitting hairs here ..................
This is a Social Event - attending this event will be free to participants & no monetary outlay will be required (Charity events excepted)

see? No monetary outlay is REQUIRED. So if you go to Primtionary and volunteer money to the pot then its not a requirment is it.




If you read my posts again A I never said Arts need a seprate category and B as I've said over and over again it will be left to Linden Labs to decide what content is allowed where - all we have to do is come up with viable categories.

Sounds Awesome, Sox. I would like the added category arts and culture tho. Right now, general fun works as I think arts are general fun, but it is ... well... general. right?

As for folks not attending arts and culture events, I think this is largely not true. I have heard from others holding poetry nights that they were well attended (and two of my own have been). As well, we've had very well attended art gatherings at Gato House and the Spa. Every Scener's competition (improv acting through avatars) has netted a bare minimum of 15 attendees. So I am completely convinced that there would be interest.

If we simply went commercial / non-commercial in this way i think it would make sense though: can people win money from it? If they can win money it is commercial. The intent of the attendee is to win money. Money will exchange hands in one direction or the other.

If the event involves no money exchange in either direction, it is non-profit.

All this said, Timmy's idea about generating funds for education and non-profit events through charging for postings for commercial events is fine IF we can find an agreeable committee or entity to disperse the funds with integrity and transparency. For me, this is a much less elegant way of solving the problem than simply asking for some kind of events incentives from the Lindens, perhaps coupled with an increase in the amount for dwell.

3D content makers get to manufacture relatively without cost (I know those texture downloads add up, but a chair, once made, never has to be remade for sale). They also get lottery awards of free space to sell their goods and free venues for advertising them on the forums. Why should events hosts have access to so little in terms of incentives? Game makers get them, club owners get them (though not enough to pay for costs), 3D content makers get them. Why should events hosts be expected to work for free and without any recognition? THIS is the problem we need to solve if we want to keep arts and culture and community building alive in SL.

I would prefer a listing based on what it is, educational, clubs, games, discussions etc rather than based on whether is costs anything. Most events are free in SL and all events are social in some way if you interact at all. I think of the events calander as a yellow pages, I would look under games for tringo,... educational for a class or mentored event.... or clubs for dances/contests held in a club. Stores might list an event in games to get more people to visit their land, it may be free but the store owner is doing it for commercial reasons. I would contend the game is still a game even if it's for commercial reasons. The store owner will side step the commercial listing by making the game free, but it's still a commercial venture. If we divide by commercial/non-commercial it seems any land where people get dwell or sell anything would be commercial. If an event brings people to the land where dwell is earned the owner is gaining $L. Also, Land renters gain by having higher numbers on the visitor numbers, pushing up these numbers means rents are higher, because renters want to sell items in a popular place. Rent a space in a popular mall/club and see what I mean. Low dwell numbers mean lower commercial rent for the owner.

I prefer listings based on the topic rather than if money is made.

Ok I'm on with that, something like

Gaming
Cultural
Dance Club
SL Education
Promotion

But these options must be placed so that the event poster can tick the box and then the attendee can tick the SAME box on the calendar to filter - yes?

I love the idea of separate categories like that. I would just suggest that cultural be made arts and culture (brings up the image of bodypainting with yogurt for me and I find that all yummy). hehe