If, let's say, I got a 'friend' to craft their avatar to look like a famous person or even just another avatar from SL .. and then we had pixel sex .. would that be OK?
To comply with the TOS, would I have to do it out of sight, or could I have a mature event where people can come and watch?
What do you think? Discuss!
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-24-2005 05:32
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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10-24-2005 05:34
im flattered blaze but I would TOS you if you tried getting funky with a clone of me.
although I have a feeling you are going to combine todays ex resident dijour with a donkey or something _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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10-24-2005 05:36
I think you should go for it. In fact, I'll help you with skins if you like. And I'll come support your first "Fuck a SLebrity" event.
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
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10-24-2005 06:11
Why bother with public opinion. Test the system out with a Philip clone, shouldn't be too hard to do. Do him any way you want to. Send him the pictures and videos as a courtesy prior to public distribution. Let us know, k?
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
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10-24-2005 06:12
Hang on, pixel sex is against ToS?
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Michal Milosz
Amateur Piercer
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10-24-2005 06:27
Hang on, pixel sex is against ToS? |
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
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10-24-2005 06:30
I'm so banned.
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
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10-24-2005 07:02
I guess some lawyer could argue that a celeb's appearance construes (eeech, big word) a (marketable) brand and as such is protected by intellectual propoerty laws ? I'd say as long as you do that in private or make sure no one can confuse the avatar with the actual person, it's OK.
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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10-24-2005 07:09
I guess some lawyer could argue that a celeb's appearance construes (eeech, big word) a (marketable) brand and as such is protected by intellectual propoerty laws ? I'd say as long as you do that in private or make sure no one can confuse the avatar with the actual person, it's OK. parody is protected and unless you were sending a celeb or thier kids videos of your act, I don't think it could be called anything but parody _____________________
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
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10-24-2005 07:29
parody is protected I can speak from very personal experience that it is NOT protected. To answer your TOS question, blaze, I can tell you with near certainty that you are NOT violating TOS by doing so, but if there is a perception that you are (and cat-calls/abuse reports from an ill-informed mob), you will be punished by an over-worked, paper-pushing system which doesn't have the time/desire to actually research charges against you. |
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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10-24-2005 07:30
I can speak from very personal experience that it is NOT protected. are you referring to US law or SL "law?" _____________________
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
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10-24-2005 07:34
are you referring to US law or SL "law?" The latter, of course. US law gets REALLY weird. |
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
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10-24-2005 07:44
IIRC Weird Al has to request written permission to parody songs. In one case he got in legal trouble, even.
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-24-2005 12:15
I can speak from very personal experience that it is NOT protected. To answer your TOS question, blaze, I can tell you with near certainty that you are NOT violating TOS by doing so, but if there is a perception that you are (and cat-calls/abuse reports from an ill-informed mob), you will be punished by an over-worked, paper-pushing system which doesn't have the time/desire to actually research charges against you. Maybe I'll just start out with making an Aimee Weber avatar do chicken dances |
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Sitearm Madonna
Registered User
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10-24-2005 12:17
um... wouldn't this get the avatar likeness's pixels all um... wet?
If, let's say, I got a 'friend' to craft their avatar to look like a famous person or even just another avatar from SL .. and then we had pixel sex .. would that be OK? To comply with the TOS, would I have to do it out of sight, or could I have a mature event where people can come and watch? What do you think? Discuss! _____________________
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
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10-24-2005 12:29
IIRC Weird Al has to request written permission to parody songs. In one case he got in legal trouble, even. He does so because it is easier, not because he has to. Parody and Fair Use has to be determined on a case-by-case basis and, without prior approval, can result in a lengthy court case. In order to remain topical and to avoid wasting his own time, WA simply asks first.  _____________________
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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10-24-2005 12:53
Maybe I'll just start out with making an Aimee Weber avatar do chicken dances Why use a Faux Aimee for that? The REAL Aimee hardly ever STOPS chicken dancing. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-24-2005 13:00
Well, that'll be a prep stage for my next trick which will be to use your likeness in advertisements for my many products
I bet a likeness riding one of my nuclear missiles could really move the L$ |
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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10-24-2005 13:04
Well, that'll be a prep stage for my next trick which will be to use your likeness in advertisements for my many products I bet a likeness riding one of my nuclear missiles could really move the L$ OH! Well that clears it up. Will it be Dr. Strangelove style or Air's Surfing on a Rocket style? _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-24-2005 13:09
thinking about it, I guess it could only be done in some kind of obvious parody or it'd just be simple case of copyright infringement.
oh well.. let's see, what would adbusters do with *PREEN*... |
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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10-24-2005 13:13
thinking about it, I guess it could only be done in some kind of obvious parody or it'd just be simple case of copyright infringement. oh well.. let's see, what would adbusters do with *PREEN*... This is a very Aimee day for you. I heard Cubey say in IRC that you didn't have the brass ones to parody HIS stuff. Eh? EH? (the previous Cubey quote may or may not have been fabricated) _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
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10-24-2005 13:16
Looks like someone here is having trouble getting laid
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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10-24-2005 13:17
Looks like someone here is having trouble getting laid Awweee Eggy, all you had to do was ask! _____________________
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Cubey Terra
Aircraft Builder
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10-24-2005 13:18
This is a very Aimee day for you. I heard Cubey say in IRC that you didn't have the brass ones to parody HIS stuff. Eh? EH? (the previous Cubey quote may or may not have been fabricated) Aimee told me in IRC that she wants you to not only make her likeness but sell it in a package with sex balls! (this quote very much fabricated) _____________________
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Iumi Cline
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Two Birds with one Missile
10-24-2005 13:18
This is a very Aimee day for you. I heard Cubey say in IRC that you didn't have the brass ones to parody HIS stuff. Eh? EH? (the previous Cubey quote may or may not have been fabricated) The scary part here Aimee-chan is that he might slap a Cubey logo on the missile and have you riding on it. Eeeeeps. |
