Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

Frustrated with the term 'hater'

Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 06:04
Is it just me or does it, like chatspeak, make you look like an ignorant uneducated jackass?
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Puck Goodliffe
Your humble Foole
Join date: 22 Dec 2005
Posts: 200
06-02-2006 06:09
From: Jonas Pierterson
Is it just me or does it, like chatspeak, make you look like an ignorant uneducated jackass?


In the eternal words of Fred Durst, "drink yo' hatorade!"
Wendel Gascoigne
Registered User
Join date: 19 May 2005
Posts: 226
06-02-2006 06:11
1. Why do we always need threads to generate useless copycat threads?
2. How does that belong in the SL forum?
3. Is it just me or does posting that kind of thread make the original poster seem like a person with a severe lack of imagination and interesting things to say?

*sigh*

Wendel
Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
06-02-2006 06:16
Why you hatin' on the Haters ?

-Ghoti
_____________________
"Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 06:44
From: Wendel Gascoigne
1. Why do we always need threads to generate useless copycat threads?
2. How does that belong in the SL forum?
3. Is it just me or does posting that kind of thread make the original poster seem like a person with a severe lack of imagination and interesting things to say?

*sigh*

Wendel


This has nothing to do with any thread. It is about a in game conversation, where a freebie reseller was calling everyone 'haters' every other word.

Don't assume based on things you don't know..
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
06-02-2006 06:48
From: Jonas Pierterson
This has nothing to do with any thread. It is about a in game conversation, where a freebie reseller was calling everyone 'haters' every other word.

Don't assume based on things you don't know..


Not an unreasonable assumption Jonas, considering two threads down or so there's a thread entitiled 'Frustrated with haters'.
_____________________
Wendel Gascoigne
Registered User
Join date: 19 May 2005
Posts: 226
06-02-2006 06:51
From: Jonas Pierterson
Don't assume based on things you don't know..


OK. It's not one of the countless copycat threads. I very much maintain my opinion of those though.

But, again, how does your original post belong in the SL forum? Did you give it an SL context?

Wendel
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 07:05
From: Wendel Gascoigne
OK. It's not one of the countless copycat threads. I very much maintain my opinion of those though.

But, again, how does your original post belong in the SL forum? Did you give it an SL context?

Wendel


Ok heres the context: Yesterday during a chat conference a person who happens to sell freebies was called on it. He proceded to call everyone 'haters' just because of them calling him on the freebies, and use chatspeak. Heres a paraphrase:

P1: u all just haters
P1: u betta not come 2 me
P1: i blast u haters!

Now..this doesnt look like a decent person, now doe sit? It looks like a ignorant uneducated jackass.
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Derrick Cannoli
Just Somebody
Join date: 4 Sep 2005
Posts: 81
06-02-2006 07:32
From: Jonas Pierterson
Ok heres the context: Yesterday during a chat conference a person who happens to sell freebies was called on it. He proceded to call everyone 'haters' just because of them calling him on the freebies, and use chatspeak. Heres a paraphrase:

P1: u all just haters
P1: u betta not come 2 me
P1: i blast u haters!

Now..this doesnt look like a decent person, now doe sit? It looks like a ignorant uneducated jackass.



For possibly the first time ever......I have to agree with Jonas
Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
Join date: 15 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,906
06-02-2006 08:16
From: Jonas Pierterson
Is it just me or does it, like chatspeak, make you look like an ignorant uneducated jackass?


Thank the PC movement. Relatively popular new terms like 'Hate crimes' and 'Hate speech' have promoted the usage of the word "hate" in ways that are less personal/subjective/specific as it had been in the past. ie: "I HATE brusselsprouts!"

Now that it's tied more to a category or class of 'crime' or 'speech' it's only natural to drop the clarification and just refer to people that hate as 'haters'. Yes, I know it's associated with hip-hop faux-"hood" culture, but if a word has become relevant and precise for the desired purpose, why not use it?

Of course... if it makes you feel better, why not submit it to the
Banished Words List for 2007?

http://www.lssu.edu/banished/complete_list.php

--
Don't get me started on the the word "terror". Grumble.
_____________________
* The Particle Laboratory * - One of SecondLife's Oldest Learning Resources.
Free particle, control and targetting scripts. Numerous in-depth visual demonstrations, and multiple sandbox areas.
-
Stop by and try out Jopsy's new "Porgan 1800" an advanced steampunk styled 'particle organ' and the new particle texture store!
Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
Join date: 8 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,771
06-02-2006 08:54
Do not hate the haters.
Participate in the 2 minute hate every day.
It is your patriotic duty as a citizen of Oceania.
Anyone who considers the haters as being ungood will be made into unpersons.
Think of the boys on the Malabar Front.
_____________________
I have no signature,
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
06-02-2006 09:17
From: Jonas Pierterson
Ok heres the context: Yesterday during a chat conference a person who happens to sell freebies was called on it. He proceded to call everyone 'haters' just because of them calling him on the freebies, and use chatspeak. Heres a paraphrase:

P1: u all just haters
P1: u betta not come 2 me
P1: i blast u haters!

Now..this doesnt look like a decent person, now doe sit? It looks like a ignorant uneducated jackass.


Get the damn teens off the grid!!!
_____________________
I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Sally Rosebud
the girl next door
Join date: 3 May 2005
Posts: 2,505
06-02-2006 09:29
So how can you tell how decent a person is by their speech? Just because somebody is uneducated does not mean they are not decent. Did you ever think that perhaps you and whoever else backed that person in a corner and he was just lashing out in defense of himself?

I'm thinking the person lacking decency might be the person making the accusations.
_____________________
"I love sleep. My life has the tendency to fall apart when I'm awake, you know?"

~Ernest Hemingway
Groucho Mandelbrot
is no more
Join date: 26 Apr 2006
Posts: 296
06-02-2006 10:45
From: Sally Rosebud
So how can you tell how decent a person is by their speech?...

Well said, Sally.
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 10:51
From: Sally Rosebud
So how can you tell how decent a person is by their speech? Just because somebody is uneducated does not mean they are not decent. Did you ever think that perhaps you and whoever else backed that person in a corner and he was just lashing out in defense of himself?

I'm thinking the person lacking decency might be the person making the accusations.


He was doing it the moment he entered the conference. What corner? What backing him into it?

The only corner he was in was the one he mad ehimself.
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Alex Fitzsimmons
Resu Deretsiger
Join date: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,605
06-02-2006 10:58
What a silly post. While the basic, "correct" manner of speech changes more slowly, language in general and slang especially has, throughout recorded history, constantly changed. Complaining about a particular slang word as though it occupied some unique place among the countless others, past and present, is a colossal waste of time.

Don't hate. :cool:
Derrick Cannoli
Just Somebody
Join date: 4 Sep 2005
Posts: 81
06-02-2006 11:05
From: Sally Rosebud
So how can you tell how decent a person is by their speech? Just because somebody is uneducated does not mean they are not decent. Did you ever think that perhaps you and whoever else backed that person in a corner and he was just lashing out in defense of himself?

I'm thinking the person lacking decency might be the person making the accusations.


You can say whatever you like and support the "dumbing down" of the english language. I can tell you by those three lines of his that its not a person I would consider as decent. That doesnt mean that you have to make the same assumptions that I do. I myself prefer not to subject my ears to that, while your ears may be alot more tolerant.
Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
Posts: 2,734
06-02-2006 11:15
I have ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS hated the word "haters"

OR

AS THE CORRECT SPELLING WOULD BE

"HATERZ"

It's a completely nonsensical word. It has no affect on anyone 'cept morons. On me, you'll just get a rather endearing expression of bewilderment.
_____________________
http://churchofluxe.com/Luster :o
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 12:03
I don't 'hate.' :)

I just discriminate against those who prove that they have no desire to educate themselves, and have locked themselve sin a s'moron.' Grammar helps you look intelligent. Use it. Am I the only person under 30 who appreciates decent grammar in todays students and adults?
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
Join date: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 4,219
06-02-2006 12:32
From: Jonas Pierterson
have locked themselve sin a s'moron.' Grammar helps you look intelligent


:D
_____________________
go to Nocturnal Threads :mad:
Alex Fitzsimmons
Resu Deretsiger
Join date: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,605
06-02-2006 12:41
From: Gabe Lippmann
:D


I know. I was amused at the irony myself. :p

Somewhat less obvious was the poor usage in the sentence, "Grammar helps you look intelligent." That's not entirely correct; that is, not just any grammar does that. Good grammar does. Poor grammar, however, does not.

If you want to play the grammar Nazi game over this foolish obsession with a particular slang word, we can definitely do that. ;)
Alex Fitzsimmons
Resu Deretsiger
Join date: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,605
06-02-2006 12:48
I don't know. Perhaps it would drive my point home more clearly if I started some similar threads, such as:

Frustrated with the term "groovy"

Frustrated with the term "cool"

Frustrated with the term "yo" (albiet not the Spanish word "yo," which is perfectly correct)

Frustrated with the term "grats"

Frustrated with the term "lame"

Frustrated with the term "gay"

Frustrated with the term "whack"

I mean, this list could go on forever, and I haven't even gone back farther than 20th century lingo yet. :D
Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,940
06-02-2006 12:52
I *do* hate the term "haters," especially in the forums.

I see that in a thread title, and I think, "Oh boy! Drahma ahead!" But no, it's just some whinging about SL features

*sigh*

Don't put "Haters" in your thread title unless you deliver, plzkktnxbi
_____________________
============
Broadly offensive.
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
06-02-2006 13:30
At least I try, and part of my spelling issues is my dyslexia.

How abotu we just try to sound like (however poorly) educated people and try to get people weened off chatspeak and bad slang?
_____________________
Good freebies here and here

I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
Sally Rosebud
the girl next door
Join date: 3 May 2005
Posts: 2,505
06-02-2006 13:39
From: Jonas Pierterson

Now..this doesnt look like a decent person, now doe sit? It looks like a ignorant uneducated jackass.


This was the quote I was referring to.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about what he was doing, but you started with..."we were having a conference call..." and calling him on something he was doing. Let me think, that would make me a bit defensive.

I appreciate people being able to spell, and make coherent sentences. Just because somebody can't, doesn't make them not decent, or un-educated.

There are several people with good grammar that I consider "ignorant, uneducated jackasses."
_____________________
"I love sleep. My life has the tendency to fall apart when I'm awake, you know?"

~Ernest Hemingway
1 2