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Chip Midnight
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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09-11-2006 07:58
From: Luth Brodie I bet every single one of you purchased some photo sourced skins and or clothes with little change to the origional. Which I doubt were asked for permission to be used within a commercial setting. I wasn't going to post to this thread again but since it just got bumped I want to address this comment. The three skinners involved in this story (Lost, Starley, and myself) all license images from the same source that shoots nudes specifically for use by 3d texture artists. The photographs are fully paid for, licensed, and used in accordance with the license agreement. Please don't spread misinformation when you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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Join date: 26 Jan 2006
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09-11-2006 08:11
From: Lordfly Digeridoo A house is not a house; you apparently haven't done custom work for very long. People are EXTREMELY particular about what they want in their homes. A custom job for somebody isn't going to fly with someone else, and they'r ejust hacking away with a program/script (which already exists, btw), they don't have the patience nor gumption to do it themselves anyway. The ability to copy your work, bit for bit, exists already. It's existed for over a year and a half. I've come to terms with that fact. I mean - a house is a house, in that a person may want to take one of the houses you have built, whether or not you built it for someone specific. (Unless you're telling me that no one else could possibly want it!!!!!) Yes, I know that program already exists, and I assumed you did, too, but I was being purposely somewhat vague about it, so as not to encourage its proliferation. I saw the damn thing in action. I, too, have "come to terms" with that fact. The moment I saw it, as a matter of fact. But that hack - and this other one - is why we should discourage the use of these outside programs to obtain things that wouldn't ordinarily be rightfully obtainable within the actual structure of SL. coco
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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Join date: 21 Jul 2003
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09-11-2006 09:13
From: Cocoanut Cookie I mean - a house is a house, in that a person may want to take one of the houses you have built, whether or not you built it for someone specific. (Unless you're telling me that no one else could possibly want it!!!!!)
Yes, I know that program already exists, and I assumed you did, too, but I was being purposely somewhat vague about it, so as not to encourage its proliferation. I saw the damn thing in action. I, too, have "come to terms" with that fact. The moment I saw it, as a matter of fact.
But that hack - and this other one - is why we should discourage the use of these outside programs to obtain things that wouldn't ordinarily be rightfully obtainable within the actual structure of SL.
coco Buryng your head in the sand and trying to pretend it doesn't exist is not a good survival strategy. People need to know a) it exists, and b) it's not exactly kosher to use. Otherwise the bad guys will have access to it, while innocent content creators get reamed over and over again. Knowledge is power and all that.
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Luth Brodie
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Join date: 31 May 2004
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09-11-2006 09:37
From: Chip Midnight I wasn't going to post to this thread again but since it just got bumped I want to address this comment. The three skinners involved in this story (Lost, Starley, and myself) all license images from the same source that shoots nudes specifically for use by 3d texture artists. The photographs are fully paid for, licensed, and used in accordance with the license agreement. Please don't spread misinformation when you don't know what you're talking about. Thanks. If I was doing what you are attacking me for doing I would have said such and such does this. I never once said that. Reading into comments like that makes you look like the idiot you are insinuating that I am. What I said was that most of you own at least one item that had been ripped from somewhere else. This is because a lot of people do it. Not everyone maybe not even most, but a lot do and the majority of SL just don't care. My point was that you cannot bitch and moan and complain about copyright while happily dancing away on an animation that was downloaded, hardly changed, and uploaded into SL. I specifically did not say or even reference the content creators involved as doing the actions I had commented on. If that was unclear, then I am sorry as it was 4am when I posted that. Maybe instead of looking for attacks in people's comments you could say 'I'm proud to inform everyone that these people do abide by license agreements' then pat yourself on the back for actually being a minority around here. This kind of negative knee jerk response is the reason why some of these people are going through this drama. (The last comment references the horrible verbal attacks against the people in this public display of drama)
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Tya Fallingbridge
Proud Prim Whore
Join date: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 790
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09-11-2006 09:45
I just want to know why this is even in the forums? It only causes DRAMA and miss communiction by all parties. Its an opening to have people publically bashed.
This is a perfect example why LL is closing the forums.
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Joannah Cramer
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Join date: 12 Apr 2006
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09-11-2006 10:11
From: Luth Brodie My point was that you cannot bitch and moan and complain about copyright while happily dancing away on an animation that was downloaded, hardly changed, and uploaded into SL. Well, since i have generally no idea where the animations i use come from, i give the supposed authors benefit of doubt and presume they were obtained and produced by legitimate means. Same for the other content. Presuming otherwise would be/is exactly what some people took offense at in this thread -- that if a content creator doesn't want the buyer access original base files, it's because they treat their buyers as would-be thieves. And well, to turn it around and claim it's okay to go against wish of the content maker 'because they are no doubt stealing content themselves' ... it isn't really good way to go about coming to any sort of compromise, is it? :<
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Torley Linden
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09-11-2006 10:24
Thread closed. From our Guidelines: /invalid_link.htmlPrivate discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
So much... pain. :*(
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