Something important, with no punchline or genital humor

This is from a third-party website, and I felt a sense of pride in reading it.

LL, you are turning a "virtual world" into "a version of Blender 3D that kind of works and is distributed over IP", and destroying the pathos that you once engendered and fostered from SL's innovators and early adopters.

And now the quote that made me stop thinking about genital punchlines:

Certainly with the emphasis around sex, gambling and commercial activity, SL does appear to be stagnating.

It's very difficult to find anything 'different' to do in SL these days, although I have had the pleasure of running a few activities where people have been delighted to do something out of the ordinary.

I still maintain that we need proper, diversive advertising of the potential of SL, instead of simply parading Anshe Chung in front of the cameras time and time again.

Lewis

Ulrika is quite correct and I couldn't agree more.

Well. Every time I try to make things more interesting, and actually voice those plans, a Linden grabs me by the ear and explains why the idea might not be so benficial to resident-kind.

Specifically, the part where I'd get banned. So I don't bother so much anymore.

panda, you have certainly earned my respect for this (not sure you want it though)

laboratary, pretty boy philip, and the rest of you corporate ass kissers would be wise to heed this ominous warning

all hail Ulrika

PS its such a shame Torley is as much a sell out as the rest...

i hate this place. such a shell of what brought me here in the first place

which reminds me of another quote I heard recently on some un named message board

Freedom of expression versus running a business. Ultimately LL doesn't really have a choice do they? When a lot of the "expression" is trolling and flaming, they need to clamp down on it.

On the other hand, I'm seeing some genuinely thought provoking (if controversial) threads being locked or deleted. The forums are a community full of characters that I've known for almost 2 years. It would be a shame to see this place become an environment where only easily digestible, pablum-like topics are allowed to be discussed.

Out of respect for Panda and his one and only serious thread ever, I'll refrain from posting this really great picture I have of a kid scarffing down pablum.

Freedom of expression my butt. What happened to Ulricka is the result of malicious and childish actions on the part of someone who never should have been put into a position of power over Ulricka, or, actually, any of us. This has nothing to do with freedom of expression and everything to do with powerplays, deception and favoritism.

All I have to say is I have personally been belittled and insulted by Ulrika and I didn't even know her. And I'm hardly alone.

I do not view her as a wise and contibuting memeber....I view her as an abrasive arrogant egotistical bully.

Thus she, IMO, feels she has license to say and do what she wishes to whom she wishes, and is shocked when people take action to stop that kind of harassment.

I do realize she apparently has made and contributed some great things to SL before my arrival and thats super....but I do not believe this gives ANYONE carte blanche to treat other individuals like dog shit, no matter HOW intelligent they view themselves.

Not to say that SL doesn't have fundamental problems, such as inflexibility of environment and a tragic focus on the land trade, but come on. Behave like a petulant child and you'll be treated like one.

So people can ageplay, own slaves, fur it up, etc., but one cannot act like a petulant child?

Oh noes, caustic wit must be destroyed for the sake of the metaverse!

What's the point of being smart if you can't wave it around like a flag?

I'M KIDDING

I do not like everything LL does. I've recently seen some baffling behavior from a Linden who I used to think was the COOLEST LINDEN EVER. (Blatant favoritism and wasting valuable public resources when it was made extremely obvious that the community didn't care to have those resources wasted, to be more specific.)

But... these things will happen unchecked in any large organization. Human brains are wired to prefer the easiest solution, you know? Anyway, I think LL has enough discipline, talent, and motivation to stay on the right course. I think they're generally on it now. Balance is a bit off from what I'd personally like to see, but they don't have infinite money.

I say if you get treated like child, you probably act like one.

I know longtime residents that aren't worth the power ot display thier avatars on my screen, and newbies that I respect greatly. How we carry ourselves and how we interact with others is as much on how we are precieved as how much we ahve done for the community and for how long we have been here.

I personally do no feel as a child by LL, nor by my piers in-world. Those that may think of me as such are also those that I couldn't care less about, so their opinion matters not.

As for nothing in SL aside from sex, gambling, and running buinsesses; you can find more if you look for more. You find what you search for. I don't run a buisness and don't care to gamble and am not going to pay for internet sex. I find fun with friends every day. I've had my ribs hurting from laughing so hard, and have enjoyed activities so much I've looked at the clock and said "Holy!! I need to sleep!!" for losing track of time due to the fun.

If anyone can not find fun in SL, or if they think SL is limiting, then I suggest learning to look better. The only limitations are to respect your fellow resident's right to express thier own imagination. To understand this, pick up and read the book "All I Ever Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarden."

*steps off soapbox*

Have a wonderful, fun-filled day! =^.^=
~Jessy

When did the forums become the entirety of SL?

I loved SL when I started because I can make whatever I want. I can still do that. The forums have dick to do with it - they're forums, and pretty much exactly like any other forum board out there.

This is a genital punchline-free thread. Please edit your post.

I asked Jarod what he thought after reading Ulrika's post, an act for which I may never forgive myself as I'm not entirely sure what all he means. But here it is:My own thought is that the feeling Ulrika is describing has been shared by me for a long time. I'm not sure it's based in a desire to be profitable though. LL have to understand that the grid, as constructed, will never be financially profitable; the software will. They won't sell it per se as Jarod states, but license it's use monthly or annually including updates, support et al.

But it will solve the problem. We'll be building a myraid of worlds to jump through until we either find one focused on seriously supporting our interests or build our own. Many of these will be interconnected with each other as well as external (non-asset) databases, forums, mailing lists, video & RSS feeds, and web pages. In other words, 3D space will be another Internet service with worlds growing around existing communities and interests, completely different from the mis-guided attempt to accomodate all people in a single gridded world which necessitates us being treated like children.

This service, like the Internet, and other technological innovations, must eventually be used to make the world a better place. It boggles the mind that LL are trying to use it to create a "better" world by imposing on it the same problems that we have in the real world, rather than using it to help solve some of those problems.

Since 1969. Duh



Really though, it is the sanctioned vehicle for discourse. That is until LL seriously brings such a vehicle into SL...

Dammit, the ONE time its off-limits.....

I'm combining Jarod's (via Khamon's) response and yours in the same post. + 5 Post Count Brevity.

Fixed.

Okay, I can't take it anymore. Genital humor reinstated.

Let's go on a field trip!!!!!

When you get an inworld time out for a forum thread pointing out ridiculous resmoderation.

Thank You. I edit the post to add my own comments after meaning to preview Jarod's quote.

GodDAMMIT you had to go and edit your post and be serious again.

OK, two answers, or points, or questions, or something....

I read Ulrika's quote. One thing I don't understand about it is she decries the loss of freedom in the metaverse but all her examples are entirely forum-related. While one may be the official vehicle for discourse (as you put it), one does not equal the other. If she's still actively in SL, she can do the exact same things she did previously inworld as she could when she first started. (Not talking about lag, or bugs, or nitpicking stuff like that - I'm talking freedom to do what she wants to do, say what she wants to say.)


The other is a sampling through idle curiosity. I went back through the following forums and took this count:


General - last 10 pages, 8 threads locked. The reasons:
- "God I hate furries THEY SUCK you're all pervs"
- "You suck? No YOU SUCK"
- "Don't buy anything from Anshe because she buys all the land"
- Locked at the request of the OP
- "I was banned but I made an alt and eeep I'm back"
- Jesustime spam
- Jesustime spam
- Jesustime spam

OK, jesustime probably threw that off a little. Let's try The Sandbox, which honestly is the big place I see Ulrika post. (which is for off-SL topics, btw, if we're talking official discourse.)

Sandbox: last 10 pages, 4 threads locked. The reasons:
- "Which resmod do you think sucks and why?" (This went on for 6 pages, and considering the whole thing is talking shit about other residents, I'm actually suprised it went on that long.)
- "Strife is a NAMBLA member and look I'm comparing him to Hitler too"
- "The Jesustime guy is a gimp"
- "J-Wu is a NAMBLA member and look I'm comparing him to Hitler"

So what, is she saying she's pissed that because she can't call people NAMBLA members in off-topic anymore its equivilant to the loss of freedom in the metaverse? I'm not seeing it.



Are you speaking about Ulrika or someone else? Because the former has 3 locked threads in the last 10 pages, 1 of which says a resident is a NAMBLA member and the other is open season on all resmods, with names, and a poll.

This one is worth the dial-up fee just to respond to
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The trouble with this is this post is made by the two people who act more childishly and with more pride in their childish behavior than probably any other avatars I have ever met.

Pandastrongs single claim to fame (other than his "sucess wid de ladies"), is an unending string of poo-poo na-na jokes in the forum, and absolutely no one has "spoiled brat" covered better than Ulrika.

If you notice here, in her own post she decries being treated like a child in her anonymity and in the same paraghraph does the exact same thing to the Lindens in assuming they are "children" just because they are anonymous??? Could they not also be the same "professionals" that she wants us to believe she is?

Is this the logic of an adult?

To me this is the real beauty of Second Life.

You get treated as you "really" are, not as you would based on the trappings of money and power that you have managed to gather around yourself in RL or the number of people you are able to intimidate into doing your bidding. SL is a great leveler of fame and fortune and like any mask reveals more about the real person inside than it conceals. If you get treated like a child in SecondLife, maybe you are in fact a child.

Also for Ulrika, who is a known "favorite" of LL, that get's clean away with multiple TOS violations on a weekly basis (the long personal attack thread on the resmods being only the most recent), to cry "unfair treatment" is a laugh and a half.

boo-hoo to you.

1. My success wid de ladies is nothing other than a result of having an extremely small penis, which is seen as a sign of weakness and sensitivity. Also, my jingoism is displayed in a striking jawline worthy of the Democratic Forces of The United States of America.

2. You need to do your research on my other claims to fame

1. I am responsible for the inception of the first LSL wiki
   

1. I coded the first DHCP request routing response with load-balancing into the API of the SL client.
   

1. I coined the term "prim".
   

1. I coined the term "coined".
   

I would go on, but I have to go bang some ladies now.