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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-27-2006 00:45
From: Jesse Malthus bonus points for making me laugh a little, but you could really use to chill out on your posting... yeah i know, but since everyone is taking the hard left i feel the need to take the hard right to find balance in teh universe  ps.. its happened, im going to bed, red bull has taken its flight at last.. bought frigging time.. 
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Jesse Malthus
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08-27-2006 00:47
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu yeah i know, but since everyone is taking the hard left i feel the need to take the hard right to find balance in teh universe  ps.. its happened, im going to bed, red bull has taken its flight at last.. bought frigging time..  THANK YOU. PLEASE CHILL. K BAI.
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Thorne Kaiser
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08-27-2006 00:49
From: Adriana Caligari I run reading classes if you need them. The OP's post was about someone calling her a name on another site - my reply highlighted the fact that she had also done this in the past on her own site. Maybe you should take some reading COMPREHENSION classes. A THIEF is someone who takes something that does not belong to them without paying. If you hacked into a JEVN server and payed L$1 for an item that you do not own when it costs much more...you are a THIEF. That's not name calling. It's telling it like it is. I read how you claimed that you were doing something good for the community or whatever by allegedly reporting the hack. Crapolla. Why didnt you hack into your own server? Are you a JEVN user? If not I'm sure you know where to find them. If you obtained what you wanted by using a KNOWN hack, you are a thief my friend. That is stealing. BTW, Why haven't you been banned for your actions?
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Jesse Malthus
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08-27-2006 01:05
From: Thorne Kaiser Maybe you should take some reading COMPREHENSION classes. A THIEF is someone who takes something that does not belong to them without paying. If you hacked into a JEVN server and payed L$1 for an item that you do not own when it costs much more...you are a THIEF. That's not name calling. It's telling it like it is. I read how you claimed that you were doing something good for the community or whatever by allegedly reporting the hack. Crapolla. Why didnt you hack into your own server? Are you a JEVN user? If not I'm sure you know where to find them. You obtained what you wanted to obtain by using a KNOWN hack. That is stealing. BTW, Why haven't you been banned for your actions? Why, because she verified and notified that an exploit worked on this vendor, and not only had the courtesy to notify but also to pay the diffrence. MadamG seems to have a history of filing frivolous DMCA takedown notices.
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Thorne Kaiser
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08-27-2006 01:07
From: Jesse Malthus Why, because she verified and notified that an exploit worked on this vendor, and not only had the courtesy to notify but also to pay the diffrence. MadamG seems to have a history of filing frivolous DMCA takedown notices. Really? Do you have proof of this? If not you shouldn't make statements about others like that. Then again..how would you know what DMCA complinats were filed? Did she file them against you?
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Jesse Malthus
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08-27-2006 01:10
From: Thorne Kaiser Really? Do you have proof of this? If not you shouldn't make statements about others like that. Then again..how would you know what DMCA complinats were filed? Did she file them against you? Yeah, because I'm a total texture/model theiving Gorean primbaby greifer</sarcasm> And I'm making INFRENCES, which is a function of critical thinking. Meh, it's threads like these that makes me want to spur work on GetObjects...
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Over Sleeper
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Join date: 12 Jan 2006
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08-27-2006 01:11
From: Jesse Malthus Why, because she verified and notified that an exploit worked on this vendor, and not only had the courtesy to notify but also to pay the diffrence. MadamG seems to have a history of filing frivolous DMCA takedown notices. Where does it say she paid the difference? How would you know that? If I got caught stealing, I'd surely be quick to pay the difference too...doesn't make it right. Still a thief in my book. Why use a hack to buy something for L$1 when it cost L$7000 or whatever the price was? If you think that's ok...then you should seek help and oh... The teen grid is That way >>>
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Over Sleeper
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08-27-2006 01:11
<<<<< No sorry. That way.
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Thorne Kaiser
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08-27-2006 01:12
From: Jesse Malthus Yeah, because I'm a total texture/model theiving Gorean primbaby greifer</sarcasm> And I'm making INFRENCES, which is a function of critical thinking. Meh, it's threads like these that makes me want to spur work on GetObjects... er uh...you said it not me. Good call though.
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Jesse Malthus
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08-27-2006 01:15
From: Over Sleeper Where does it say she paid the difference? How would you know that? If I got caught stealing, I'd surely be quick to pay the difference too...doesn't make it right. Still a thief in my book. Why use a hack to buy something for L$ when it cost L$000 or whatever the price was? If you think that's ok...then you should seek help and oh... The teen grid is That way >>> Um no, I don't condone stealing, but what's past has passed, and there's no sense in dragging back grudges into the open. <aphorism>If you can't say anything nice...</aphorism> (PS: seriously, ad hominem attacks? lame.)
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Adriana Caligari
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08-27-2006 01:19
From: Thorne Kaiser A THIEF is someone who takes something that does not belong to them without paying. When confirmed by a judge and or jury correct . Until confirmed by a judge ( and or jury ) the correct term is still Sir or Madam - else it is called another word. Now if you will excuse me I have things to do in RL.
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Addison White
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Join date: 18 Jan 2005
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08-27-2006 01:21
Hmm....here's my take on this..
About a million other SL forum sites are going to pop up...and if you spend every wakeing moment to check and see if your name is on them, my first piece of advice is to walk away..have a stiff drink, slap yourself on the face, and remember that your RL name..is not MadamG..and it's a name for an SL game....my RL name, *gasps*, is not Addison! (feels so much better about getting that off my chest.)
Now, about the slander...people take alot of things in this game with a grain of salt. They either will believe it, or choose not too. But as for threatining a law suit anytime someone enters your name on a website for a game..is just going a little bit over the line. That's like you standing next to an open window near my house with a tape recorder..waiting for me to one day say something about you.
It falls under a little thing called, Freedom of Speech and since they are the one's paying for the site, they can pretty much whatever they want with it. Sorry if this is harsh, but it's life...welcome to it.
-Addi
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Over Sleeper
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08-27-2006 01:22
From: Jesse Malthus Um no, I don't condone stealing, but what's past has passed, and there's no sense in dragging back grudges into the open. <aphorism>If you can't say anything nice...</aphorism> (PS: seriously, ad hominem attacks? lame.) Adriana brought it up...so I assume that she must want to bring up those passed grudges...I'm just following the converstation as it comes. And you have openly condoned thievery in your post above by supporting these actions. So in my book...you do condone it, unless you care to retract your statment. You also accused madamg of filing frivelous dmca's against people. How would you know...did she file one against you or something?
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Over Sleeper
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08-27-2006 01:24
From: Adriana Caligari When confirmed by a judge and or jury correct . Until confirmed by a judge ( and or jury ) the correct term is still Sir or Madam - else it is called another word. Now if you will excuse me I have things to do in RL. No. You come into my RL or SL shop and take something that you have not paid for. You are a theif whether you get caught or not. The fact that you would even imply that stealing does not make you a thief shows true lack of morals. RL stuff to do? I'd hate to ask.
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Deuteronomy Chase
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Join date: 12 Jul 2006
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08-27-2006 01:29
From: Addison White Hmm....here's my take on this.. About a million other SL forum sites are going to pop up...and if you spend every wakeing moment to check and see if your name is on them, my first piece of advice is to walk away..have a stiff drink, slap yourself on the face, and remember that your RL name..is not MadamG..and it's a name for an SL game....my RL name, *gasps*, is not Addison! (feels so much better about getting that off my chest.) Now, about the slander...people take alot of things in this game with a grain of salt. They either will believe it, or choose not too. But as for threatining a law suit anytime someone enters your name on a website for a game..is just going a little bit over the line. That's like you standing next to an open window near my house with a tape recorder..waiting for me to one day say something about you. It falls under a little thing called, Freedom of Speech and since they are the one's paying for the site, they can pretty much whatever they want with it. Sorry if this is harsh, but it's life...welcome to it. -Addi Addison, I just read over madamg's post again and I don't see anywhere that a lawsuit was threatened. Are you trolling? Or are you just not a good reader? Secondly, let's take an example...A.C. has a lot of business in SL but it;s not her real name. However she uses that name to do business... Business that generates real money. If I go slander her name, I mught as well be talking about her RL name...eve nworse to talk about her SL name because no one knows her RL name anyways. So it is damaging to do this. These new forums are not a good thing in my opinion. They seem to be doing more harm than good. I just visited 2 others where the same thing seems to be happening to other people.
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Macphisto Angelus
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08-27-2006 01:38
From: Deuteronomy Chase These new forums are not a good thing in my opinion. They seem to be doing more harm than good. I just visited 2 others where the same thing seems to be happening to other people.
*nods* Though I think it is good to have independent forums out there I am afraid that any of them will have this stuff come up from time to time, if not most of the time. I value the forum here. I know moderation duties are harsh on some but it truly is needed. Without the safety net of the official board, many people will be afraid to post elsewhere. This is yet another point as to why LL needs to re-evaluatate changing the present forum structure. OK, maybe nix the Sandbox.. but leave the rest in tact. 
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Addison White
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08-27-2006 01:45
First off, I'm not a forum troll and have never been...but in fact had JUST joined the sl-forums earlier today so I felt like after reading a few posts on there I could honestly post in this forum..having posted on topics like this in the past. She did not threaten law suit, but did threaten in general, and on several other SL sites, has brought up her "lawyer" and various other reason's for attacking people in RL for using her name to say negative things. If people take their buisness into RL then that is their choice, but the people that we are talking about on these sites are from the game Second Life...it's an mmorpg that MOST people use for fun..but do get hurt along the way if they are not careful. Have I stepped in before IN GAME to try and help a friend who had her name slandered..absolutely. But to go as far as saying that if ANY OUTSIDE website, not directly connected to Linden Labs and what-not, for her to say she'll contact the host, etc...you don't think that's taking it a BIT TO FAR? I can read perfectly fine...from my knowledge of the OP, she tends to scream law suit fairly often..guess I'll just have to be more specific on my next posts so everyone can understand every single word of my post  -Addi
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Thorne Kaiser
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08-27-2006 02:03
From: Addison White First off, I'm not a forum troll and have never been...but in fact had JUST joined the sl-forums earlier today so I felt like after reading a few posts on there I could honestly post in this forum..having posted on topics like this in the past. She did not threaten law suit, but did threaten in general, and on several other SL sites, has brought up her "lawyer" and various other reason's for attacking people in RL for using her name to say negative things. If people take their buisness into RL then that is their choice, but the people that we are talking about on these sites are from the game Second Life...it's an mmorpg that MOST people use for fun..but do get hurt along the way if they are not careful. Have I stepped in before IN GAME to try and help a friend who had her name slandered..absolutely. But to go as far as saying that if ANY OUTSIDE website, not directly connected to Linden Labs and what-not, for her to say she'll contact the host, etc...you don't think that's taking it a BIT TO FAR? I can read perfectly fine...from my knowledge of the OP, she tends to scream law suit fairly often..guess I'll just have to be more specific on my next posts so everyone can understand every single word of my post -Addi Where has this person screamed lawsuit? It seems like you are making things up as you go along. Putting words into someone else'd mouth is not cool AND is trolling. True, SL is a game. But just like when Linden Labs made it clear to us all that Copyright and Trademark issues are RL issues... such is slander and such. You cannot expect to remain anonymous for long if you are breaking real world laws. That includes you saying that madamg has threatened a lawsuit against someone when you still have yet to specify where she said it. I do not see it in this thread and have yet to see it in any other thread...and I read the forums quite a bit. You are no better than the person she said verbally attacked her.
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Deuteronomy Chase
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08-27-2006 02:06
From: Addison White I can read perfectly fine...from my knowledge of the OP, she tends to scream law suit fairly often..guess I'll just have to be more specific on my next posts so everyone can understand every single word of my post -Addi "She" I am guessing you mean MadamG? I read the forums also everyday and have never seen her or anyone else screaming lawsuit. Where are you getting your facts? If you have the scoop on her or anyone else threatning lawsuits...please do share the links with us!!! Redeem yourself. Right now it just looks like you are trolling.
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Deuteronomy Chase
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08-27-2006 02:07
From: Thorne Kaiser Where has this person screamed lawsuit? It seems like you are making things up as you go along. Putting words into someone else'd mouth is not cool AND is trolling. True, SL is a game. But just like when Linden Labs made it clear to us all that Copyright and Trademark issues are RL issues...such is slander and such. You cannot expect to remain anonymous for long if you are breaking real world laws. That includes you saying that madamg has threatened a lawsuit against someone when you still have yet to specify where she said it. I do not see it in this thread and have yet to see it in any other thread...and I read the forums quite a bit. You are no better than the person she said verbally attacked her. Didn't read that before I posted...perhaps at the same time... DITTO!
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aEoLuS Waves
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08-27-2006 02:08
Isnt it real life slander if you use the persons real life name?
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Deuteronomy Chase
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08-27-2006 02:11
From: aEoLuS Waves Isnt it real life slander if you use the persons real life name? If you are doing business in SL using an Avatar Name....it doesn't matter. You are receiving money in a real life PayPal account or by check right? It's nothing more than an alias.
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Addison White
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08-27-2006 02:17
The law suit in question I am reffering to was posted in the forums on sl exchange in ref. to a feud between the OP and adriana C. And not to mention a few "harrasment" law suits that had been brought up between the OP and S.C. (if you read forums or know the OP...you'll know who S.C. is).
Man.. I can see why these forums will be closed soon..someone can't post their own freaking thoughts without some SERIOUS backlash. I'm also not the first person to use the word law suit btw...
I think I'll go back to the "other" forums where people can actually have a thought of their own.
-Addi
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Deuteronomy Chase
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08-27-2006 02:29
From: Addison White The law suit in question I am reffering to was posted in the forums on sl exchange in ref. to a feud between the OP and adriana C. And not to mention a few "harrasment" law suits that had been brought up between the OP and S.C. (if you read forums or know the OP...you'll know who S.C. is). Man.. I can see why these forums will be closed soon..someone can't post their own freaking thoughts without some SERIOUS backlash. I'm also not the first person to use the word law suit btw... I think I'll go back to the "other" forums where people can actually have a thought of their own. -Addi Links please.  Now you have me intrigued. If someone did something illegal, then they should be sued shouldn't they? Give me a break. Why defend such people?
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Thorne Kaiser
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08-27-2006 02:36
From: Addison White The law suit in question I am reffering to was posted in the forums on sl exchange in ref. to a feud between the OP and adriana C. And not to mention a few "harrasment" law suits that had been brought up between the OP and S.C. (if you read forums or know the OP...you'll know who S.C. is). Man.. I can see why these forums will be closed soon..someone can't post their own freaking thoughts without some SERIOUS backlash. I'm also not the first person to use the word law suit btw... I think I'll go back to the "other" forums where people can actually have a thought of their own. -Addi I read those myself. First, if someone sends youthreatning email...legal action is not wrong. I would have done the same. 2nd, if someone steals something from someone, the same applies. Why is it that ppl get slammed for protecting themselves in here? Why do ppl like you defend the wrongdoers?
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