Sell Modifiable Flex Prims.....why?

It's been a week or two since flex prims came into being. Thank you LL for another option in prim manipulations. The beef that I have is with designers that create flex prim skirts, ribbons, hair, that is no modify. I have gotten the reason for no mod in a variety of excuses. The one that irratates me the most is "a customer will muck it up" and I'll have unwanted IMs to fix their scew ups. Is this the message you want to give your customer? They don't know enough about flex prims that they will mess up your terrific most special design? Get off your high horse and listen to your customer base. I don't buy a flex prim skirt because I can't make one, I like yours enough to buy it. I buy it because of it's texture or it's design. Designers, I don't know what your customer base will say about your product, I do know what this customer says about the products I want to buy. I want it modifiable!

On this rant will also be attached another part to this program. The fear of being ripped off. Welcome to the SL world and for that matter the real world. There are people out here that will rip off your product and your texture and sell it as their own. That is one more facet you as a business owner has to face. Along with that facet is that a customer's satisfaction must also be met. I'm not wanting to modify a simple silk skirt to "rip it off". I want to make it short on some days, long on another. I want it really flippy to make it look like I'm in a wind store or very calm and still for a special event where the bride is the center of attention, not my too flippy silk skirt.

Listen to your customers with some skepticism but don't fear the "ripped off" factor and let it ruin your business in every customer that asks for something. Ulcers have been caused by less worrying I assure you. I can't wait for the day when flex prims are a thing of the past and we all own one or two with extras in storage somewhere. They are a block of prim wood textured that has a slider bar that makes them flex more or less. Nothing more AND nothing less.

You can modify my flexiprim anytime you would like.

Hear hear! There's also absolutely no reason for something to be no mod if its not copyable, but that's a topic for another rant.

Thats what policies such as:
This item CAN be modified, but i am not responsible and cannot help you if you break it!

Let the modder beware

Fine I'm gonna make all mine no mod no copy and no transfer and no resell and then sell to myself so nobody else can have one - you want one make it yourself - so there!!!
If there weren't so many thieves in SL and/or LL actually did something about it people might not be so paranoind, so in response to your comment it is a fact of life get over it - people are going to sell no mod items - it's a fact of life - get over it

Elvawin, relax these are your customers talking. Businesses set their permissions how they see fit. If the customer base doesn't like it, they won't buy it. If your customer base doesn't seem to mind, then they will continue buying it. I for one am saying, if the business manager has decided that the main reason for not setting modify on flex prims is unwanted IMs, then you need to know that may affect many other customers besides me.

News flash folks, this level of thievery doesn't stem from SL, it stems from human nature. In a perfect world, there would be no need for SL to do a thing to protect from thievery, because people overall would be morally upright and upstanding.

But guess what?

This isn't a utopian world. There has been and always will be scumballs who will try to take the easy route, the lazy route, the quick-buck route.

Here's a little observation though. Luckily, as often as we all hear or experience these incidents of theft, it is a vast minority compared to the sheer volume of sales transactions that go on in this world - both in SL and in R/L. If you're going to justify that you're selling objects as no-mod/no-copy/no-transfer is to protect from theft, then remember you're not just foiling the thieves, you're screwing over your customers as a side effect. And there's a whole bunch more honest people out there than there are thieves.

Now what's your more important goal...protect your creations, or satisfy your customer? You dont get both equally, what you gain in one will be at the expense of the other.


Personally, I dont deal with sellers who presume all customers are potential thieves. I have better uses of my time and money, and it's not going to promote paranoia and suspicion.


- Newfie

I agree - to those who make prim clothing items, flexi-prim or not, it is ridiculous to sell them no-mod. Not every avatar in SL has the exact same Barbie doll shape. Either make it mod or at least provide the same item in multiple sizes - otherwise, it is simply rude. You aren't preventing people who really want to steal your design from doing so, there are all kinds of ways around it. All you are doing is punishing honest customers who are paying you money (or hopefully avoiding buying the item because it is no-mod).

What's the point of no Mod? All my skirts and flex are modify and no issues. I'm not going to make 10 different sizes no mod either. That's crazy!

sorry not going to chill I was ripped off twice today by people that can afford islands for their stores and I'm unemployed and handicapped and manage to make enough money to cover my tier if I'm lucky so I'm not a happy camper - sorry if I came across harsh but its the mood I'm in

After going on a mad cap silk hunt, i found that many of those i bought ended up looking like i could fit another few girls in there with me. i have to admit i got pretty frustrated. i didn't want to have to edit the shape i worked so hard to get...i'm just not into Expando-Butt.

i have since pretty much narrowed down which sellers i will buy from. Some due to the mod nature, others because for some reason they just happen to fit my avi-shape. And others because.....I happen to just love what they make. (and they fit)

Having learned more of late, i tend to watch pretty carefully when buying to see if they are mod-able since i burned up so many $L not even realizing they would never fit.

I stopped buying no-mod items ages ago, the flexi-prim thing only adds to it. I wouldn't buy a car or computer that I couldn't take apart, fix, improve, etc., I sure as hell wouldn't get one in SL that's that way.

Ok make a prim skirt copy/mod no transfer then I can make a copy, fart around w/ it and still have the original if I DO muck it up. I have hair I can do that with. But then people will say, but then I can't sell it or give it away, true, I guess we can't have it all the ways we want.

And I KNOW there are far far more honest folk in SL than there are thieves. Even if it wasn't a moral issue w/ me, I just don't have the time to try to rip off someone else's work.

Not true. If you have scripts in the items, there can be very good reasons to make it no-mod.

Make the prim modifiable, make the script no mod.

Nope. Doesn't do squat for what I'm talking about.

There are not a lot of prim skirts with scripts in them, it really is not an issue at all in this circumstance.

I make prim skirts and silks, and I awlays make them MODIFYABLE, I know my shape is about average, but there are always those a little bit taller, smaller, shorter or wider than me and I want them to be able to enjoy it as well! If they so happen to mess it up beyond repair, no biggie.. send me the remains and I send a new one lol

Sounds like an untapped market then

Really though, I was adressing the person who said there was never a reason to sell anything no-mod.

Translated: Sensual's avatar has some junk in the trunk!

You say that, like it's a bad thing!

Oh I say it with great respect. I can't stand all the flat assed, chicken legged twig avatars running around SL.

lmfao... Cris have you been drinking? LOL you are hilarious tonight!

No offense, but why oh why do people, and you I guess, determine a persons worth by what kind of avatar they decide to have?

What if my avatar has huge tits, a tiny waist and I saunter around in heels all day, why does that bother you SO much?

You really really assume way to much...I don't judge a person by his or her AV.....but I get the impression you look down on anyone who wants to look 'nice' or 'hawt' per their definition, in SL.

While your comment pushed a button, this is NOT only addressed to you Cristiano, I have seen, many times since I got here, how folks in the forums belittle others for their choice of shape, style and dress of their AV and it pisses me off.

If I want to be a 'Barbie Doll' as so many here put it, then why not let me be one? But it has now become a derogatory label.

*sigh* this really could be a whole nother topic and I kinda hijacked this thread

Holy moly, someone needs to take a blood pressure pill!

Do you have a point or a succinct response?

Or are you attempting to make me feel small for posting my response?

Or are you trying to be funny?

Please do tell, because then I will know how to respond