Cheats in SL...

from a theoretical point of view (not talking about this specific situation)... aren't a lot of scams intended to be short lived?

get in, get some money, get out fast ... move to the next alt...

the only things consumers have to protect themselves are vendor reputation and community outrage, but that's what short-term scams try to get around.

I don't think there is anything wrong with constructive criticism and I think what you said is spot on.

The presentation is everything. When you try to present every side of a uniquely-shaped product at once, people don't know what to look at, what the front is, what the back is, etc. I'm not sure what drives people to present it this way, but it's certainly not the first time I've seen it done in SL.

I'll use one of my own shots as an example. (This is an original, undoctered hi-rez snapshot. The bot is photographed in front of a white "light" material cyclorama. I later cut out the white and used this for packaging and other promo, but I like the "Gap" look anyway.)



That's hardly a familiar shape. Well, it is now to some robot afficianados, but still. I need to position the robot in a way that makes obvious to the buyer what the front of the bot is, how it is supposed to look when they approach it in the 3D, that kind of thing. For a symmetrical object like this, shooting from an isometric perspective gives you a great look at most of the robot while keeping the image interesting.

Remember that the brain is lazy and doesn't want to puzzle out the meanings of perspective and angle. Show your very best angle, show only that angle, and you will tantalize.

This has been very successful for me in situations where I can't use a holovendor-type setup. As long as you can still present just the right image to interested buyers, you'll be selling well.

My post is about the furniture, not the vehicle fyi.

Most people assumed it was a scam or very deceitful for the following reasons:
1) Original pre-edited thread claimed the pic was from in game
2) Thread also touched on about the shiney parts on the texture yet none was on final product
3) No display model
4) The final product and the pics in the thread were MILES apart in quality/looks

All of those combined makes it look very shady. Had only 1 or 2 of them been true then it wouldnt have seemed as bad. And it has nothing to do with the persons length of time in SL, all of us would have gotten that treatment. But I do also put a little responsibility on the consumer for not demanding a display model given the high price of the item.

LOL I love critiquing.

I didn't mean to turn this thread into a thing about a ship either. lol
I was trying to keep it on the subject of the scam. I just didn't want my advertisment to look like a scam. Which is why I brought it up in the first place.

Thats also why I did the multi-angle shots of the thing. I wanted people to see it from several directions so they know its not messed up on one side or another. But it does look confusing like that. And boring, no action in it.
In any case. I learned something. I never did much in the art of advertisment before. But SL is an awsome place to learn.
Thanks guys.

Do you mean I should stop using my GameShark cheat codes in Second life?

For anyone who still thinks this is a 'mistake', how do you explain the fact that the original post is still there, fake pics included, at this very moment? The original poster hasn't even added a disclaimer to the original post, nor any pics of the actual items taken in SL...

Although, on the flipside of this....

Seeing real life pics of skins would be kinda fun...

remember: it's not porn in SL if it's advertisement.....


(worth a shot)

Shouldn't we, though, assume innocence unless proven guilty? I mean, the post announcing the object sounded so proud and friendly. I hate to think this was just two people doing the best they knew how and getting the reaction they did.

coco

P.S. Kazuo, the store itself, they said, is gone - as are they. So the ad remaining there, they could just have forgotten or just think that's unimportant. Or they are leaving it there for posterity to show their friends in "There" why they shouldn't come "Here."

P.S. Annah, yeah, that is a lot of iffy stuff.

I admit it. I'm a dirty cheater. I spawncamp Telehubs.

Cocoanut, as said in the other thread by several ...the ORIGINAL UNEDITED post said the pics were taken in world and were untouched by photoshop or any other means. I did contact him in world and was very cordial in asking for a refund and was pretty much told to bad so sad.

Never once was I rude in-world or on the forums, nor do I think I was out of line to post pics of what they really looked like. I do believe they knew what they were doing and I believe the rudeness back from them stems from my posting the real pics on the forums.

If it was indeed an error, which I really have my doubts, then why not just make it right and refund the money (which they never have) instead of trying to play the poor picked on me syndrome.

A refund is absolutely in order.

I missed that part. And yes, I did agree that a refund was in order. However, I think the rest of the things - like what you mentioned above - are more indicative of a scam.

coco

I'm not one to post to often, but i saw this topic, it struck my interest, and now it really got me wondering the integrity of alot of designers, well this topic and one in new products today for some mens clothing. i was looking at these products and realised the dishonesty in some of the sellers, unfortunatly it led me wonder why two stores by two diff ppl have some of the excate same clothing, one a very popular store, one some one new. It was a pair of pants that tipped me off to it tho. Now i sit here wondering what site these people are photo sourcing there stuff from and why doesnt and cant ppl who claim to make things be least creative and design something orginal, or hell if not orginal, then at least on there own without photo sourcing it. People need a little bit of integrity in sl, it may not be rl, but still.

It really doesn't matter if a person has been here one day or a million years, common sense should tell people that you don't show a rl pic of something to sell an item that is nowhere near what the ad showed. Also, telling people you spent over a month and a half on an item that couldn't possibly have taken more than a few hours, even for a new person, when they havent even been here that long is deceptive in itself.

"Quite a number" was done to the people who gave kudos in the beginning and fell for the scam...