Telehub Land Value Maintenance

LL has suggested that Telehub Land Owners might be due some sort of compensation after the 1.8 release. It would seem a simple matter to increase the prim allowance for land nearest the Hub. This would help maintain some of that value for the long term.

What about those of us who just sold our Telehub land at a loss, before the release of 1.8?

What about those of us who lost something due to some action LL took, or some mistake they made?

Telemalls profited at the expense of usability for everyone in SL who doesn't have a god flag. I am not sympathetic.

Excellent point indeed, but we should have a different thread for each one.

Sorry you lost money but these things happen. My American friends father had worthless railroad bonds and held on to them in spite of a offer of little money. The goverment bought these railroads and he recieved a normal price for them. The railroads became Conrail. Dont thing the Lindens should be responsible for your business decision.

No.

I really don't understand people's sense of entitlement for having artifically high-priced telehub land. Yes, it was valuable before. It isn't now. Get over it. Please?

You do not have a God-given right to have high land values.

Furthermore, increasing prim limits would require a proportionate amount of land being seized by LL and being kept open. To wit, look at the city sims: There's around 15,000 prims on those sims still, just concentrated to around 32,000 square meters rather than 65k. The reason being, your client would choke and die with 30,000 prims rendered.

Allgedly with Havok2, we'll get prims increased. Eventually. But that'll be across the board, not on an arbitrary telehub-proximity scheme.

I tried to sell at a loss and the land sat there because who wants land near the crap lag fest that hubs have become. The land was not worth the tier I was paying, so I accepted that I was screwed and released it all. Its a relief to not have to worry about being screwed by this LL decision, and even though I have accepted I was screwed, I feel quite bitter about it.

I lost a lot of money. This was very poorly handled since there is no reason whatsoever that telehubs had to be eliminated. Telehubs could have coexisted with P2P quite nicely and that would have been a nice compromise.

So accept you are screwed and you that lost money after relying upon the system LL set in place for so long. The boilerplate in the TOS makes it clear that LL can make changes anytime without prior notice and so they have.

It hurts to be told "get lost" when you try to express a concern, when you try to talk it out because you care. but LL is here to make money, and liek all those entities whose concern for money supercedes compassion, it has no qualms about callously heartlessly coldly telling those who are loyal..too bad..."get lost." Ouch.

Serves us right for expecting more. Once you accept you were screwed by a heartless callous unfeeling uncaring cold as ice fuck you decision you can try to move on as I wll try to do. Oh that goes for hubs too.

I demand compensation for my city sim land.

We were promised it would be a gigantic, vibrant city when we originally bought into the place.

Alas, it did not. It's still 4 sims, relegated west of the newbie areas, mostly vacant.

I am requesting $L1,000,000 to make up for all the lost value as a result.

I'm also within peeing distance of a telehub. I demand another $L1,000,000.

Also, one time I crashed. That's another $L100,000 easy.

WHERE IS OUR JUSTICE

Yeah, I want my Mule!

Wow! I was just looking for a couple extra prims.

How many more of these fucking threads do we need?

Can't there be one "I bought telehub land and now I can't make filthy lucre from it" whinging thread?

It is sad you lost money. That you wish did not come true. The Lindens did not know what would happen. The experiment is still in progess.

Why not make people want to come to your area? Get toughter with your fellow land owners to draw customers. TP can be a pain and if there is a nice area to shop people will come to you. Also the rz problem will be less without the transit people.

The Lindens can not make a "city", it is up to the residents to do so.

I think LF is taking the piss.

I've never heard this phrase before. Is it synonymous with "being a sarcastic ass?"

If so, yes.

Reimbursing telehub landowners would be the dumbest move ever. Residents raised the price of telehub land to unrealistic prices. Many people profited greatly from the sale of over inflated telehub land. The land isn't being devalued, it was already devalued because as most of us who have been around a while know, telehubs are a failure. Having a store near a telehub does not always equal increased sales. A good product equals increased sales as people will travel to the remotest of location if an item they want is for sale there.


If telehub landowners (myself included) are compensated for maingrid land adjustment then will all memebers be compensated for every decision that has cost any group of players money? I think not.


Everyone should welcome P2P as it will make travel easier, increase retention by leaps and bounds (at least that is my opinion on why it is coming so soon), and make all locations equally as valuable.

Are you saying that land barons sold hub land at artificially high prices using the false claim that it provided a benefit that wasn't really there? I simply can't believe that. It isn't true. They would not take advantage of anyone in that way. If it turned out that the hub didn't provide instant mall riches, I'm sure they would compensate the new land owners sufficiently.

Did I mention that after the p2p info came out, I was looking for hub land in a new sim, thinking it would be reasonably priced now, but a land baron (who I will not name was selling it for $L50/sq m? That land baron can be seen decrying LL for auctioning at high prices when they knew that hubs were going away.

LL should not compensate the hub land owners (because I don't have any) but they should compensate me for whatever they do that impacts me.

Bwahahaha. Those exact words had gone thru my head.

And we don't need any more damned threads on the subject either.

When shopping, I go to the stores that have the best products and pricing. I never went shopping near the telehubs for convience.

The Lindens had the theory (incorrect) that these hubs would draw customers. Well, people who play SL are very spirited and refuse to be herded like sheep. Oh, you should of know this from your sales reciepts! P2P will not make a real difference. In order to be compansated, you would have to show a big loss of customers. Land specalation is at the whim of the residents.

Wait until after P2P, maybe you sales will increase due to the improved rz. Remember it is up to you to be a sucess and stop crying!

The whole compensation issue was introduced by Linden:

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And their compensation is the InfoHubs. So why are they still crying? Because InfoHubs won't trap people and force them through crowded lag-malls to get out & they're not being compensated with L$. Thats pretty much it in a nutshell.

Does anyone even read those? I figure they just come here to the forums.

I can only imagine how bad it would be if scripters demanded recompense for having their work broken. Repeatedly.

I demand compensation for every idiot wannabe landbaron who thinks they can cruise into PG Snow sims, buy it up, and sell it like it was Mature Waterfront or something. And sticks ugly "FOR SALE" signs in the meantime.

Shit happens. Wear a helmet.

Telehub land owners got screwed.

coco

Perhaps p2p will be so much nicer people will go more places and while the relative value of telehub land versus non telehub land will drop the absolute value of the whole place will increase.