Read it. (It's http://secondslog.blogspot.com/2005/11/lets-have-party.html over here)
I'm not so much specifically commenting on Aimee's thought exactly (although sticking Prok and Ulrika in the same category is, in this case, a pretty good call - they're both ideologues in the extreme, the difference is which ideology) but the general organization of the SL population. I don't totally agree with it (since I kinda float around in every direction but the "gamer" one, though I'm somewhat biased in the "country" direction...) but it's a good start, and funny to boot.
And yeah, I get the point that Aimee thinks "Platform" is right. Hell, so do I. But I certainly believe that areas of nigh-total freedom, areas devoted to games, and, yes, areas with government can fit into that platform.
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11-07-2005 17:37
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-07-2005 18:01
blah blah blah
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-07-2005 18:03
If you want to do a group blog, check out Terra Nova.
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Logan Bauer
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11-07-2005 18:03
blah blah blah Some people can only express opinions in a herd. Anyone who buys into these 'group' blogs reminds me of those teenagers who stand around in groups and think what they're saying has any more validity because they're in a group saying it. It's truly truly sad. Damnit blaze, I was just getting ready to ask you to contribute to my blog too. Guess you're not interested then? _____________________
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Logan Bauer
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11-07-2005 18:07
Anyone who buys into these 'group' blogs reminds me of those teenagers who stand around in groups and think what they're saying has any more validity because they're in a group saying it. If you want to do a group blog, check out Terra Nova. That's appeal to expert, which is not a falacy. I'm sorry blaze, I had to. I wouldn't have, but if my own mother was here and posted those two thoughts right next to eachother within a span of what, 2 minutes? I would have called her on it. _____________________
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Krazzora Zaftig
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11-07-2005 18:07
Read it. (It's http://secondslog.blogspot.com/2005/11/lets-have-party.html over here) I'm not so much specifically commenting on Aimee's thought exactly (although sticking Prok and Ulrika in the same category is, in this case, a pretty good call - they're both ideologues in the extreme, the difference is which ideology) but the general organization of the SL population. I don't totally agree with it (since I kinda float around in every direction but the "gamer" one, though I'm somewhat biased in the "country" direction...) but it's a good start, and funny to boot. And yeah, I get the point that Aimee thinks "Platform" is right. Hell, so do I. But I certainly believe that areas of nigh-total freedom, areas devoted to games, and, yes, areas with government can fit into that platform. Ok shameless poke for a friend here but such an idea is being worked on where government and game mix together. A heavy economy like system with government system and some PvP and PvM to keep the masses happy (For people like me with ADH...what were we talking about?). |
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Newfie Pendragon
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11-07-2005 18:18
Ummm...wouldn't it make more sense to respond to her comment on her site, where in context it makes sense, rather than crossposting?
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Krazzora Zaftig
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11-07-2005 18:24
Ummm...wouldn't it make more sense to respond to her comment on her site, where in context it makes sense, rather than crossposting? - Newfie Newfile....sense? What were you thinking man! YOU WANT SENSE! THE WORLD WILL UNRAVEL WORSE THEN WEEK OLD CHEESE!....what are we going to do tonight Brain? |
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Sensual Casanova
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11-07-2005 18:29
blah.... blah blah blah.. blah
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Enabran Templar
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11-07-2005 18:32
blah blah blah Some people can only express opinions in a herd. Anyone who buys into these 'group' blogs reminds me of those teenagers who stand around in groups and think what they're saying has any more validity because they're in a group saying it. It's truly truly sad. Aww. Someone is feeling left out. *hugs* One day, champ, when you're old enough, maybe you'll be invited too! _____________________
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Aimee Weber
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11-07-2005 18:38
Ummm...wouldn't it make more sense to respond to her comment on her site, where in context it makes sense, rather than crossposting? SLOG is a collection of articles, essays, and comics but doesn't have a public comment section. We decided there are numerous other venues to host contributions like "blaa blaa blaa" so we didn't feel the need to create yet another. We invite any commentary and critique via e-mail. _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-07-2005 18:50
If you want to do a group blog, check out Terra Nova. Those people have real credentials, from universities and industry and is the equivalent of a peer reviewed journal. That's appeal to expert, which is not a falacy. Appeal to popularity is, or worse, appeal to clique - is. The good thing about Terra Nova is you can comment on it. I've commented there before. I tried to comment on SLOG, but I couldn't. (I wanted to tell Pol Tabla his piece was cute.) Aimee has explained it thusly: "Our contributors were selected because they shared certain views and maintained a certain tone, not because they were perceived to be 'elite' or otherwise better than other people. After all, physicists are not asked to write about sports, but nobody is saying they are inferior to sportscasters. You (or anybody else) shouldn’t consider it a slight if not invited." coco _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-07-2005 19:00
Damnit blaze, I was just getting ready to ask you to contribute to my blog too. Guess you're not interested then? I'm sure one of Blaze's mains would be more interesting. With Blaze himself, you can never really tell if they are speaking their true mind.  _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
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11-07-2005 19:15
for the record, I wasn't blah'ing your SLOG, I didn't even read it... I was blahing the Blaze attacks and battles that seem to go on in every thread =/
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-07-2005 19:50
I'm sure one of Blaze's mains would be more interesting. With Blaze himself, you can never really tell if they are speaking their true mind. Yeah, I should speak with conviction, like George Bush or Al Qaeda. |
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Enabran Templar
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11-07-2005 20:09
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Jamie Bergman
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11-07-2005 20:48
blah blah blah Some people can only express opinions in a herd. Anyone who buys into these 'group' blogs reminds me of those teenagers who stand around in groups and think what they're saying has any more validity because they're in a group saying it. It's truly truly sad. No offense, but you were a dork in High School, weren't you Blaze? |
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Jamie Bergman
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11-07-2005 20:51
SLOG is a collection of articles, essays, and comics but doesn't have a public comment section. We decided there are numerous other venues to host contributions like "blaa blaa blaa" so we didn't feel the need to create yet another. We invite any commentary and critique via e-mail. Aimee, I feel you left out a segment of the population that sees SL only as a machine to generate RL $. While these people would have many characteristics of the Platformers, they really dont care what the policies of LL are so long as they are consistent and conductive to business. Additionally, they want to see LL take a strong stand as far as currency valuation, economic welfare, and money supply are concerned. Probably namely that LL needs to end all welfare as we know it. |
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-07-2005 21:04
Aimee, I feel you left out a segment of the population that sees SL only as a machine to generate RL $. The people who do that generally make 50 L$ guns that look pretty sad. They generally don't get anywhere and quickly leave LL. You have to 'get' SL in order to succeed in it. You can't simply come in and make money |
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Hiro Pendragon
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11-07-2005 21:38
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Jamie Bergman
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11-07-2005 21:43
This thread needs to be closed. Que Pasa, hombre? |
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Aimee Weber
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11-07-2005 21:55
Aimee, I feel you left out a segment of the population that sees SL only as a machine to generate RL $. While these people would have many characteristics of the Platformers, they really dont care what the policies of LL are so long as they are consistent and conductive to business. Additionally, they want to see LL take a strong stand as far as currency valuation, economic welfare, and money supply are concerned. Probably namely that LL needs to end all welfare as we know it. I see what you're saying. I DO feel that the Platform party had this covered actually. They see SL as a company with whom they can do business. On spectrum of linden intervention, they fall somewhere in the middle. They want Lindens to keep tight reigns on the order of things (punishing griefing, slander against their corporate images, etc) but also want the Lindens to back off, especially when it comes to the free market economy (don't produce free money etc). Second Life political parties are difficult to nail down, and I went through numerous revisions before I wrote the article. I am sure it will go through plenty more revisions before anything becomes a generally accepted. Thanks for your input! _____________________
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Forseti Svarog
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11-07-2005 23:13
lol, you tell 'em blaze
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Eggy Lippmann
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11-07-2005 23:33
Who here read that as Aimee's guide to SL political PANTIES?
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Enabran Templar
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11-08-2005 05:41
Second Life political parties are difficult to nail down, and I went through numerous revisions before I wrote the article. I am sure it will go through plenty more revisions before anything becomes a generally accepted. Thanks for your input! Just like real life political parties. There are oodles of things that make me unlike most Republicans, and oodles more that firmly establish me in that camp. The labels are always pretty clear-cut, but the people rarely are. _____________________
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