Lack of common sense
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
Join date: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,601
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06-14-2006 06:33
From: Jack Harker Hey, how about this for an idea? How about assuming that someone who is in the middle of cybering probably doesn't want to talk to you? Is that *really* such a stretch?. How about having some accountability for what you do instead of handing over the responsibility to strangers? If you want privacy find a private spot. A private spot isn't a public park on the grid.
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Julia Banshee
Perplexed Pixie
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 97
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06-14-2006 07:20
From: Jack Harker Hey, how about this for an idea? How about assuming that someone who is in the middle of cybering probably doesn't want to talk to you? Is that *really* such a stretch? From: Ingrid Ingersoll How about having some accountability for what you do instead of handing over the responsibility to strangers? If you want privacy find a private spot. A private spot isn't a public park on the grid. You're both right...
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Kokiri Saarinen
Quoted for truth
Join date: 7 Jan 2006
Posts: 44
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06-14-2006 07:26
A friend of mine took his girlfriend to a field that is usually un-occupied, went behind some thick foilage, and the next thing you know the police are there charging him with "in-decent exposure."
In other words, same thing happens with sex in public places in RL, most likely because sex is an extremely hyped up thing in our society. Of course it's not limited to SL.
-Kokiri
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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06-14-2006 08:59
This is one thing that always puzzled me about SL since i first came to it in 2004. Most residents lack common sense about privacy. Even if you have a skybox at maximum height with security scripts all over it, someone is going to try and force their way in. Privacy is impossible unless you buy your own sim and close it off..., And thats just too damn expensive. If you ask for privacy tools all the lindens will tel you is "were working on it".
Nothing has been done about it since i joined. If SL is suposed to be a place where you can live out your fantasy you should be able to hide it from others. Some of them NEED to be hidden. XD Some people just don't take a hint. This is a problem i never had until i came to SL. IRL if someone was on my property peeping in on me i would call the cops and have them put in jail. But in SL it seems like free game to do this, And some people seem to think its funny. :/
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Ricardo Harris
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Join date: 1 Apr 2006
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Lack of decency
06-14-2006 10:52
I totally agree with Jack Harker. You have to really be clueless or a complete idiot not to realize two people together by themselves don't want to be disturbed, especially in a place thats referred to as a "Romantic" place.
Jikil Kamenev stated: The op didn't mention what this intruder asked. And that the op should of told this person intruding, he and his partner desired privacy. First of all, whatever the question was, I'm positive it didn't matter to the op or to anyone who finds themselves in the same situation as the op. Second, why should the op have to stop what he's doing to tell this person he dosen't want to be bothered? Isn't it obvious? Again look at what Jack Harker wrote.
Someone else wrote if the op wanted privacy he should of went indoors. Now why is that? This park and other sites like this (Romantic sites) are there for the purpose the op had going on. Should the op or anyone doing the same have to go hide because of imbeciles who don't know any better? I think not.
Having decency and common sense isn't really that difficult to have, even in a game. But apparently it is to some people here in sl as in rl.
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Jikil Kamenev
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Join date: 12 May 2006
Posts: 14
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06-14-2006 13:00
<<QUOTE from=Ricardo Harris>> Second, why should the op have to stop what he's doing to tell this person he dosen't want to be bothered? Isn't it obvious? Again look at what Jack Harker wrote.<<QUOTE>>
Then the 'intruder' sees no problem unless told otherwise. Maybe they think it is ok to talk to someone engaging in 'cyber love'. (it normally isn't,but not everyone is the same...)
It isn't much a problem to say "Please leave us alone,thank you," then carry on the 'cyber love'. Yes,Jack Harker is right and people deserve privacy. But it's not hard to say a few words to the uncommon sense person trying to talk to you then resume your action. Unless they are a griefer,they are likely to be embarassed at intruding/talking to you and leave pronto. Unless you are too lazy to say a few polite words?
If they are a griefer,THEN it is a problem.
And I say again,DO NOT BE SURPRISED IN A PLACE anyone can get too to EXPECT PEOPLE to see people 'drop in' and maybe ask for a chat. A quick word and mostly off they go if you desire privacy.
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Kerrigan Moore
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Join date: 16 May 2006
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06-14-2006 13:05
.. but but but ... how can you type "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" with ONE HAND?! I mean .. what CAN you type with one hand? drawer, stewardess, warts, dear, jump, kill, you, tree .... the list could go on and on ... but ... NONE of the words in "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" are 1-handable 
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April Firefly
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Join date: 3 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,253
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06-14-2006 13:23
Thank you, you summed it up nicely. They were trying to enjoy the atmosphere. If I come upon a couple of people cybering, I go the other way. People are always complaiing about the red bars or privacy scripts and these two were being considerate and nto using them. Plus the fact that someone could come by lends to the fantasy, but don't interupt with silly conversations. Gosh! From: Jack Harker Hey, how about this for an idea? How about assuming that someone who is in the middle of cybering probably doesn't want to talk to you? Is that *really* such a stretch? That's what this thread is about., only you're going off on some sort of weird "There should be no privacy in SL!!!!" tangent which has very little to do with what this thread is about.
Seriously, for the people who think that it's cool to walk up to two people cybering and just start chatting...are you *really* that socially clueless or *that* lonely that you don't think that that's rude to do, and is almost certain to get a negative reaction?
There seems to be an attitude of, "I'm entitled to bother anybody at any time, regardless of what I'm doing, and it's totally unreasonable for anyone to be put out by it."
Really, I have to think that the people who are saying that sort of thing are saying it because of a total lack of real world social skills and the social experience that brings them. Because doing these sorts of things IRL would almost certainly result in pretty much everyone who isn't equally socially clueless avoiding them.
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
Join date: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,041
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06-14-2006 13:32
What if a couple's attachments start talking to me first? Am I then allowed to converse with the simulated fornicators? Or must I specifically address my comments to their scripted genitalia?
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Jikil Kamenev
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Join date: 12 May 2006
Posts: 14
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Dang,I've been corrected!
06-14-2006 14:40
From: Kerrigan Moore .. but but but ... how can you type "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" with ONE HAND?! I mean .. what CAN you type with one hand? drawer, stewardess, warts, dear, jump, kill, you, tree .... the list could go on and on ... but ... NONE of the words in "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" are 1-handable  I stand corrected Kerrigan. Sorry. 
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Jack Harker
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Join date: 4 May 2005
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06-15-2006 14:14
From: Pol Tabla What if a couple's attachments start talking to me first? Am I then allowed to converse with the simulated fornicators? Or must I specifically address my comments to their scripted genitalia? Wow, are you out of the loop. Everyone knows that only *your* scripted nipples are allowed to talk to *their* scripted nipples.
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DoctorEgon Spengler
Who you gonna call?
Join date: 7 Mar 2006
Posts: 92
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06-15-2006 15:23
From: Kerrigan Moore .. but but but ... how can you type "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" with ONE HAND?! I mean .. what CAN you type with one hand? drawer, stewardess, warts, dear, jump, kill, you, tree .... the list could go on and on ... but ... NONE of the words in "Please leave us alone, we'd like some privacy" are 1-handable  hahahahaha <3
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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06-15-2006 15:29
Type with your other apendages  no wait...
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
Join date: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,041
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06-15-2006 19:26
From: Jack Harker Wow, are you out of the loop. Everyone knows that only *your* scripted nipples are allowed to talk to *their* scripted nipples. *slaps forehead* Gawd I'm such a noob.
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Ryan00 Odets
just a stupid redneck!
Join date: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 289
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06-15-2006 22:16
From: Ava Cartier I'm with Egon. There is no privacy here. You can bypass "security systems" so why would you think you can cyber OUT LOUD, for cripes sake?
If you think even for a moment someone might be honing in on your conversation, start the damn thing in IM and don't take it public.
THERE'S your common sense. HMMMM you can bypass a tp home? I wanna learn this trick!!!! Because most people that use the security systems use TP home as the weapon of choice I know I do! As for the privacy thing, there really isnt any in SL jsut part of the game. Even people that have no common sense know that if you ask them to leave it means your having a private moment. And I actually did tp into a friends place to check on where she had bought some items and some of her roommates was "cybering", it was embarrassing to me but luckly I had landed several meters from the house and the only way I know what was going on was the shouting genitals! So I yelled "bust the nut allready!" and tped out and waited for my friend to get home to go back! A good laugh was brought by my comment and a good ole tounge lashing from the people involved.
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