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Abuse Report Favoritism

Silly Enzyme
Registered User
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 9
08-22-2006 23:06
From: SuezanneC Baskerville

It is possible that volunteer produced abuse reports get a higher percentage of results because the SL volunteers know how to write a better abuse report as a result of reading the instructions and practice, and because they know what not to file an abuse report about.


Also, if the above is the case, a few points:

a) Obviously, people should be given courses in writing abuse reports if writing one "better" produces results within two minutes. Frankly, if there is a way to reliably get results within 10 minutes I imagine one could charge real money for such a course.

b) The transgression I committed against said Mentor/volunteer/whatever was no different than every other transgression I've pulled in the last few months -- I dropped a push bomb. There was no question of knowing "what not to file an abuse report about." Abuse was clear.
Talon Brown
Slacker Punk
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 352
08-22-2006 23:47
I'm another one who was griefed by you Silly, just a few nights ago. You were floating around my apt in a Ravenglass building while my gf and I were...doing whatever it is we do in the apt at that time of night. You ended up coming inside and sexually harrassing her via the Xcite stuff she had until we finally called in some friends to remove you. Dunno if they succeeded or if you just left. All I know is the gf was in tears over it and I didn't even think to AR you because I was too busy trying to calm her down. I did get you banned from that sim though, after being scolded by the...landlord for even calling in friends to help remove you since apparently, according to him, we are supposed to just log off or leave the area entirely when dealing with griefers.
cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
08-23-2006 00:43
[QUOTEIt is possible that volunteer produced abuse reports get a higher percentage of results because the SL volunteers know how to write a better abuse report as a result of reading the instructions and practice, and because they know what not to file an abuse report about.[/QUOTE]

Oh ya that must be it..i feel so stoopid now
cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
08-23-2006 00:45
From: SuezanneC Baskerville


It is possible that volunteer produced abuse reports get a higher percentage of results because the SL volunteers know how to write a better abuse report as a result of reading the instructions and practice, and because they know what not to file an abuse report about.


oooo ya that must be it, i feel so stoopid
cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
08-23-2006 00:49
From: Talon Brown
I'm another one who was griefed by you Silly, just a few nights ago. You were floating around my apt in a Ravenglass building while my gf and I were...doing whatever it is we do in the apt at that time of night. You ended up coming inside and sexually harrassing her via the Xcite stuff



dayem Silly is nothing sacred to you??
Jack Harker
Registered User
Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 552
08-23-2006 01:34
From: Allana Dion
Wow, I can honestly say thats the first time I've ever heard a griefer out themselves intentionally.

You're right, your ass should have been kicked out of here a long time ago it sounds like.

Oh and btw I don't believe you. We'll need some evidence. How about you make a nice accurate list of all of your assanine behavior...err I mean accomplishments of course... and post it here for us. Names and dates please.


Actually, I believe her completely.

The fact is, that SL *needs* some inworld policing. Where people gather together, conflict will occure. Some people don't *want* to play nice with others.

It seems pretty clear to me though, that LL doesn't want to believe this. They're of the "Can't we all just get along?" school of thought. As such, I can completely agree that they are pretty much simply ignoring abuse reports, particularly since there have been so many of them lately, with the unverified accounts coming in. (Hint: ARing people when you bump into a security orb does on help get AR's to get taken seriously.)

The fact of the matter is, that LL refused to take the ide of griefing seriously at *all*, including the blatant and extreme misuse of "push" until it reached crisis proportions. Only then, despite people having complained to them about the misuse of "push" for the previous year, did they *finally* do someting about it.

So, I don't think that this person is trolling. Not every griefer is also an illiterate. They don't automaticly pass out morals and consideration with brains. Some of the most annoying twerps I've come across have been quite inteligent, if totally clueless.

What we're seeing here is the truth, and something I've suspected all along. LL tosses our the vast majority of out AR's in the bit bucket. There's no other reason I can see for people (Who I won't name in the forums.) who I know have carried out concerted, long term attacks on people I know, which have been repeatedly ARed by multiple people, but are still running around loose.

Face it, LL doesn't really *care* if the average user gets griefed.
Jack Harker
Registered User
Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 552
08-23-2006 01:39
From: Silly Enzyme
Heh. If I had known how little anyone would care about this I would never have even brought it up. I'm actually slightly embarassed, heh. Carry on! :)


No, I'm quite glad you did bring this up, too many people have their heads burried in the sand when it comes to LL's attitude toward a lot of things.

As I've said before, when you're head is in the sand, your ass becoemes a target.
Albion DeVaux
DeVoid of DeVotion
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 173
08-23-2006 01:45
If any action that LL take is detailed in the Police Blotter then it is true that AR reports are pointless. There are no records of griefers being dealt with for shooting and pushing residents and hasn't been since I first looked ten days ago after my first experience of it. And yet there have been numerous complaints on here about such behaviour. Or are unofficial warnings given out that don't get recorded on the blotter?

Albion
Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
08-23-2006 01:58
From: Jack Harker
Actually, I believe her completely.
My first post was mean to come off sarcastic, I should have made that more clear. My meaning was, since the person has outed themselves already why not go ahead and give all the evidence in detail and see if that gets em banned. Clearly its all coming out anyway.

To the OP I would point out that while you're running around being annoying you are also impacting other people. You're one of those low class idiots who goes around environments like SL treating other people like NPCs. Everything around you is your own personal game and the impact you have on other people means nothing to you.

You're not here trying to point out injustice or get the Lindens to make changes. The only reason you're here is that you're not getting enough attention from bothering people, the fun in it is gone. So you come here thinking you can stir people up and get them all upset and feel like a big man.

What is actually going to happen is that this thread will die down, you'll continue to grow more and more bored with your sad little attempts to disrupt SL and you'll eventually just stop bothering to log in. You'll go back to playing with your little xbox or chasing down gold in some online game and no one here will ever remember you existed because your sad childish antics won't have been worth remembering.
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
08-23-2006 02:13
This thread has been a facinating read. My thought is you might have hit some magic number of AR's. I recommend using your writing skills to make you money.

I don't think we have ever closed a thread because someone was asking why they weren't banned sooner but the rule that covers not posting about why one was banned definitely applies to this thread. I think the thread is bad for the community as it will likely encourage others to break the rules. On the flip side the discussion is well constructed, civil, and people seem to be interested in it.

I'm sending this to Linden Review and lock it. I haven't a clue as to what LR will do.


Torley Linden:
I've closed this because of a personal dispute.
Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
http://forums.secondlife.com/faq.php?

I hope the parties involved in this will be able to continue to discuss this issue amicably in private.

If you have clear evidence improper disciplinary action was taken, please email [email]abuse-manager@secondlife.com[/email]
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