Scambusting

So even when the "resell/giveaway" right is checked (note the RESELL) its still not fair?

Jeffrey, obviously the OP wasn't interested in fairness or she would have done that. Instead, I am the one who contacted Yadni and mentioned this to him, because I happen to know that he is a generous, fair, honest man.

I am foresquare against ripping off other people's work, but there is a point when witch hunts like this turn into vigilantism and innocent people get hurt. Or in the case of the Junkyard, good things in SL become endangered. Yadni's was one of the very first places I went to as a raw newbie, and I have taken scores of other newbies there to get them started.

If the OP has specific items she can prove were not intended as freebies (and not purchased for $1L and then sold for $200 elsewhere), I hope she will send the list to Yadni and apologize publicly for casting aspersions on his character. It would be the right thing to do. Meanwhile, Yadni and his junkyard are part of what makes Second Life a Good Thing (tm).

It's more complex than that though: the box you clicked says "Next buyer may... copy/resell". Clicking it could be taken as a statement from you granting permission. The fact you're doing it for purely functional reasons doesn't eliminate that fact.

For example, if you find a piece of software that has a TOS you don't agree with and you want to try to negotiate better terms, so you click "accept" just so the software will let you in and you can click "help-about" to see the maker's contact details... then you screwed up. By clicking the button you accepted the agreement.. it doesn't matter why you did it.

As I mentioned above, a change in the wording of the UI would rectify this...

It would be easier to decipher your post if you used the quote button.

Frankly, your argument is crap. Personal in this case means non-profit. You have the right to give it away, but not the right to sell it. Someone who takes my work and sells it is not trying to help other people, they are helping themselves.

If you want to let people sell your freebies, do it. You have that right. That you think it's OK doesn't matter at all to the rest of use because you don't own the IP rights to our work. This is not about popular opinion, this is about the law.

Thieves (i before e, except after c...) are people who steal. If you take my work and sell it without my permission, then you have stolen my rights from me, and stolen the $L from the person you scammed.

It is attitudes like yours that force content creators to set permissions on freebies in such a way that they can not be taken advantage of --- and are much less useful to the recipient.

How about a "FREE" button that does not allow adding a price to the object?

It is not my intent to have items that I specifically designate as freebies resold.

Additionally, the "Junkyard" RULES! YadNi's character is beyond reproach. He has done more FREE development for the advancement of our SL's than 1000's put together.

If he werent so fugly I would kiss him

From your keyboard to the Linden's ears. How long have content creators been asking for this? Two years that I know of.

"If you take my work and sell it without my permission"

Your saying that the Resell/giveaway permission is not a permission granted by you???

Yes, I'm saying that the Linden's permission system does not trump U.S. law.

And if you don't fundamentally understand that taking another person's work, intended to help the community and new people, and selling it is immoral then *throws hands up in the air and walks away.*

If I put copy, mod, transfer on an item and give it to someone.. I am not telling them they can sell it. I am in fact saying "You can copy, mod, and transfer it. Nothing more."
Don't put words in peoples mouths.

Where is the "resell" checkbox that I am clicking? I don't see one.
It's really that simple.

Incidentally, no court in the world recognizes the above situation as 'theft'. The appropriate term is 'copyright infringement' which has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with theft. The fact that this is so widely misunderstood is perhaps a side-effect of the RIAA's viral marketting ads. Even people who oppose them seem to have this idea that it is regarded as theft when in fact it falls under copyright law.

The transfer checkbox reads "resell/give away".

It would be much nicer if these were seperate boxes..

OH yeah!.. so it does. I thought that was a smudge on my screen.
Seriously it would be nice to have that separated.
Why would those options be placed together in the first place?
Strange.

Check the permissions check boxes again.

The "Resell/Give Away" checkbox is right there next to the "Copy" checkbox. That is the problem here. Resell is explicitly stated as permitted when checked. To insist that people should somehow understand that "Resell" doesn't really mean "Resell" is terribly niave.

Yeah I see it now. I never really looked at it until just now.
Where is the Foot in the Mouth smily face?

As a total newb this early quote captures my perspective in a nutshell:



I guess I don't see why someone would create an object and put both copy and transfer on it if the object has any SL value. It seems not only pointless and naive, but in some ways counter to the spirit of SL, as I see it.

Is the point to help newbies? Then why not just sell the object in your shop at little or no cost and make it no copy and no transfer? Or give out a limited number of no copy items that can be passed around?

If you choose to make your creation copy/transfer and others take on the job of distributing your creation to newbies then perhaps they are entitled to a small fee for their service (including organizing, advertising, providing a location, etc.).

But I question the whole idea of indiscriminately giving out such "free" items. While you are worried about people "stealing" your creations or otherwise profiting from your hard work aren't you undercutting the market by flooding it with free merchandise?

Having a "free" checkbox is useless, IMO. You can already put "FREE" or "NOT FOR SALE" or some other request in the description, which effectively is the same thing.