Musings on 1.8
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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12-12-2005 09:09
I don't know about better but definitely funnier. 
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,316
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12-12-2005 09:12
From: Piccadilly Metropolitan For fuck's sake, will the lot of you horrible little scrotes put your bleedin' handbags away and get back to discussing the topic? I'm sick of every thread on here being derailed by snide, bitchy little comments posted up by people with an overinflated sense of their own intelligence / moral superiority / technical knowledge / whatever.
</ersatz Jeska> It isn't over-inflated, you're just insecure. 
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Doc Nielsen
Fallen...
Join date: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 1,059
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12-12-2005 09:15
From: Piccadilly Metropolitan For fuck's sake, will the lot of you horrible little scrotes put your bleedin' handbags away and get back to discussing the topic? I'm sick of every thread on here being derailed by snide, bitchy little comments posted up by people with an overinflated sense of their own intelligence / moral superiority / technical knowledge / whatever.
</ersatz Jeska> Don't worry - she'll be along in due course. Another day - another thread closed...
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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
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Khamon Fate
fategardens.net
Join date: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 4,177
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12-12-2005 09:54
It just takes a little time to realize that posting in these forums is a waste of your time if you plan to accomplish anything more than troll petting. You'll get used to it Piccadilly. Or you'll move on to something constructive.
It takes longer to settle for the fact that SL is a failing spaghetti toy strung together by a crew of people having such a damn good time of it all, they can't imagine wanting to work anywhere else. You just have to give that one time too. Or move on to something constructive.
I'm addicted to the forums and waste too much time here; but it's at least as entertaining as watching TV. I stay in SL because I like playing with the toy and it pays for itself. When it no longer generates it's own income, or just fails to work altogether (how close are we to that now?), I'll find something else to play with. Poor Khamon won't have his SL anymore.
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,316
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12-12-2005 09:56
From: Khamon Fate It just takes a little time to realize that posting in these forums is a waste of your time if you plan to accomplish anything more than troll petting. You'll get used to it Piccadilly. Or you'll move on to something constructive.
It takes longer to settle for the fact that SL is a failing spaghetti toy strung together by a crew of people having such a damn good time of it all, they can't imagine wanting to work anywhere else. You just have to give that one time too. Or move on to something constructive. True on both counts and well said.
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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12-12-2005 11:00
From: Issarlk Chatnoir Most things load fast enough, gray boxes are all gone after one minute I'd say (except in places full of textures, like a mall, in all case texture loading doesn't seem to stall). Ok - one more question: Was it always like this for you? (Minus the new outlines on the boxes, of course.) Did you always have to wait, say, up to a minute for everything to show up? Or did it used to be faster for you? coco |
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Issarlk Chatnoir
Cross L. apologist.
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
Posts: 424
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12-12-2005 14:54
From: Cocoanut Koala Ok - one more question: Was it always like this for you? (Minus the new outlines on the boxes, of course.) Did you always have to wait, say, up to a minute for everything to show up? Or did it used to be faster for you?
1.6 you mean? I think it was a little bit faster, I don't remember well though.
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Les White
sombish
Join date: 7 Oct 2004
Posts: 163
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1.8
12-12-2005 14:57
Well, call it 1.8. Change almost nothen. Then point to it as an example of a successful point release. Sell. Run like hell.
I'm only half kidding.
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Ravi Zuma
Я Вас не помню
Join date: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 148
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12-12-2005 19:45
From: Cienna Samiam It continues to amaze me that this company actually can conceive of there being something more important and pressing to their continued revenue stream outside the basic 'top five' that is fairly sancrosanct to any gaming or software development house:
1) Stability of the platform/performance
2) Error reduction/elimination
3) Bug Fixes
4) Enhancements to existing functionality
5) New functionality
The very idea that 'ripply water' took precedence over the list of outstanding bugs is so far beyond astonishing that I really cannot convey it. That telehub 'repurposing' is more important than continuing issues with building tools is equally laughable. That, overall, Linden Labs is purely reactive and completely out of control of their own development cycle is just fucking sad.
But, to the point, when faced with Linden Labs continuing and increasingly spastic behavior, and having paid them in good faith for access for longer than I should have, my choices are few -- stay and beat them with a hammer until my subscription runs out, or write it all off and leave.
For the moment, the hammer is the more enjoyable of the two, but only because Linden Labs really deserves to be beaten with a hammer for failing to adequately manage customer expectation, their own business, and the potential of this product.
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Eloise Pasteur
Curious Individual
Join date: 14 Jul 2004
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12-13-2005 05:11
From: Cocoanut Koala Ok - one more question: Was it always like this for you? (Minus the new outlines on the boxes, of course.) Did you always have to wait, say, up to a minute for everything to show up? Or did it used to be faster for you?
coco I've been here longer than some, less long than others. Under 1.7 my recorded fps have increased in the sims I frequent and so know my typical numbers for on average, but not in all. In fact in some it's hugely lowered. Texture loading is WAY slower however - grey boxes, then coloured boxes, then a slowly appearing blurry image, then finally what I know it should look like. This is things like, for example, home, so I know pretty damn well what it should look like! FPS is not the be all and end all - I've seen good FPS with lousy TD for example, and I'd rather have 5 FPS and a TD around 0.99+ than 15FPS and a TD of 0.33, I can take moving somewhat clumsily over moving through treacle. (I used to run a very bottom for SL machine and typcially got 1.5fps so maybe I'm more accustomed to it than others.) I also noticed there's a post in announcements that they've got one of the texture loading issues sorted, and will be working on the other one, so hopefully 1.8 will let us see some improvement there too, and a later patch a full improvement. Someone ages ago in this thread commented that new features are more fun to write. I agree. But you don't have to be a hitler to get bug fixing done. If the smaller, light on their feet dev teams did one new feature then one bug they'd still have fun, and we'd get some sign of progress with the bug fixing. If the support teams actually gave better feedback I for one would be happier. I'm not asking for a personal email for each bug I report, but something that, once the bug reporter has looked at is says: "We've looked and we've fixed it", "We've looked and we're working on it", "We've looked and the next patch should have a fix" or "we've looked and we can't recreate it, please report it again if you continue to get it" could be done automatically as the tracking system for bugs is updated. I'm not the world's greatest expert on customer support, but please, thank you, and little (even automatically generated) progress reports like that would, I suspect, make many of us more prone to report and feel we were being noticed and things were getting better. It's odd really. Most of us will accept that SL is going to have bugs, it's whether those bugs will destroy our willingness to go in that makes the difference. LL is quite good at advertising itself and at talking to us about some things but really very bad at telling us existing people about some of the things it does to make SL better for us. There's plenty of "Ooh, new shiny" which is good but some "Ooh, look old glitch shot" would make us happy too (or happier, unless we're trolls). |
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Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
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12-13-2005 06:06
From: Issarlk Chatnoir Am I living in a parallele universe where SecondLife runs acceptably well? Me too. I don't get what some of these people are wailing about. I guess if one has a five-year-old pile of shit for a computer it is LL's fault that SL will not run on it. -Ghoti
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Hiro Queso
503less
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
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12-13-2005 06:12
From: Ghoti Nyak Me too. I don't get what some of these people are wailing about.
I guess if one has a five-year-old pile of shit for a computer it is LL's fault that SL will not run on it.
-Ghoti *coughs* I have a more than decent enough spec, and SL has only run at a fraction of the performance I had in 1.6  |
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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12-13-2005 07:07
From: Khamon Fate It just takes a little time to realize that posting in these forums is a waste of your time if you plan to accomplish anything more than troll petting. You'll get used to it Piccadilly. Or you'll move on to something constructive.
It takes longer to settle for the fact that SL is a failing spaghetti toy strung together by a crew of people having such a damn good time of it all, they can't imagine wanting to work anywhere else. You just have to give that one time too. Or move on to something constructive.
I'm addicted to the forums and waste too much time here; but it's at least as entertaining as watching TV. I stay in SL because I like playing with the toy and it pays for itself. When it no longer generates it's own income, or just fails to work altogether (how close are we to that now?), I'll find something else to play with. Poor Khamon won't have his SL anymore. How close? damn close for me I went from investing 6k into sl down to a mere 25 bucks a month. Yup money talks don't it Mar |