Musings on 1.8

Sorry but this doesn't fly anymore. I may not be able to make a mmorpg, but I've beta tested a bunch. Also I've been on lots of dev teams in RL. SL has some serious performance and reliability problems and it's developing customer confidence problems.

I can't design or build a car. But I can tell you that it's not running properly. The customer base for the most part doesn't care why it's not working, they want it to work.

*still cranky from dealing with the aftermath of the disappearing inventory*

Kid, go away, ya bother me.

This is hilarious if you think about it.

Something the users have wanted for ages, that appears to only take a week to implement, yet we dont get it. Now we *are* getting it, but only because the asset server is so borked that they *have* to do it to keep people from leaving.

I'd be laughing (if my gestures worked) and yet mad enough to punch my pillow (if I could move at all).

i understand. The statement wasn't directed at you, per se, but at the vultures that seem to have permeated these boards (hi malachi, hi doc, hi cienna, hi kazuo), that don't seem to do much except expound great literary works on why SL sucks, why it is failing, and why they don't like it anymore, and where LLab is doing wrong, why it will be out of buisness in 3 weeks, and why this concept is doomed. And especially why the Lindens are evil, corrupt capitalists intent on raping your children and taking your wallet.

And yet, SL continues stumbling along, much like it has since 1.0, making occasional progress, occasional regress, but generally moving forward, discarding the detrius that gets fed up with it.

I paid my lifetime dues back in 2003, and pay my tier, so I still have faith in the little world that could. It's still growing.

I will start to panic with the rest of the chicken littles when the following three things happen:

1) The Lindens cease communicating with the population in any meaningful manner (that means no forum posts, no IRC discussions, no town halls, and nothing but automated responses from email)

2) Releases happen less than once a month, if at all.

3) The economy destabalizes and careens out of control with no intervention.

Those three things happened to Motor City Online prior to its demise. I was there, I saw it. I knew it was going to tank. And it did.

One final thing to consider: The people in the forums, contrary to what others may pretend to believe, are not a reliable cross-section of the SL population. When 1.7 was released, with people complaining of crashing problems and the like, the numbers listed on the SL.com website seemed to be consistent with other days; that is, there weren't an extensive number of people crashing or otherwise not playing due to the bugs.

Isn't that odd? Surely if 1.7 was a fuckfest then no one would be able to use it properly.

Or are the vast, unwashed masses too stupid to know the difference? Do we need Real Forum Champions to let LLab know what the proles think?

Yes, SL has problems. Yes, LLab probably has internal problems. I, frankly, don't care; I've been putting up with it since 1.0, and SL has been the only game to continually hold my attention for more than a year. Ever. That surely says something, even given all the stupid bugs, instability, and evil linden oligarchy ficomgwtfbbq.

Sorry, I'll stop derailing this thread.

Backup options for prims, please, kthx.

Amen. If our prims had gone south, I'd be drinking, not reconstructing.

Microsoft, it'll only run on the XBox or Windows Vista Extreme DRM Edition, and it'll use .NET and render HTML on surfaces using IE, and the first "SL Worm" will let phishers suck money right out of your bank accounts through the Microbucks/US$ exchange.

Yay as a Microsoft developer, I will get a cut of that. Woohoo!

Reminds me of Palm, actually. Anyone else wish Jeff Hawkins had stuck with Handspring and Sony had bought Palm as they were rumored to be planning... instead of dropping out of the handheld market altogether?

What, you mean the design flaws in IE are *deliberate*?

Detritus? Thanks for the compliment.

Guess that makes you an expert in failure then, eh?

Define "properly". I geared up and purchased network services to run a musical performance in game a week prior to 1.7. I still can't successfully gather the audience because SL don't work. That's a "fuckfest" in my parlance.

How long you been asking for that? Aren't they so accomodating to simple requests? They send your client full specifications of the prims every time you look at 'em, they've just made you unable to read it because they don't like you and they own your creations. Even the traditional LL apologists are jumping ship. Don't you hate being late to the party?

I... guess? I didn't know my name was "MotorCityOnline Digeridoo".



I've been to several high-av venues since 1.7, and they're no worse or better since, like, 1.5. Fuckfest, indeed.



They probably don't like me because I'm a forum troll, just like you.

Have you talked to a Linden since, like, 1.1? They're very nice people. And dare I say it, capable of running a company, maybe even better than you! I know, I know, hard to digest. Give it a minute or two.

Here's another theory: Maybe they haven't opened up the prim attributes because it would a) allow for massive permissions hacking, and b) allow SL-made resident creations to be sent to their competition (OSMP, There, fuck, let's even pretend TSO), thus not letting them be the sole metaverse provider. They don't want that yet.

I fully intend to be here when they turn the lights off for the last time. I suspect you will be too, only skulking in the shadows like a 10 year old, thumbing his nose at everyone saying "I told you so, nyaa nyaa nyaa".

*perches hungrily on the nearest tree, eyeing Lordfly speculatively*
Sooner or later he'll stop moving...

As opposed to *edited* like yourself who, despite numerous, continuing, and consistent instances demonstrating just how little LL 'gets it', will continue to pretend everything is just ducky and any ol' day now, that sun, he's just gonna break through all the clouds and we'll all sing 'Zippity-Doo-Dah', life will be beautiful, and the massive clusterfuck that LL has made of Second Life will just be a bad memory.

What-EVER.



Reality check, fool, stumbling is not success.



Panic? Hardly. I no longer have any investment or desire to invest. But it is amusing how ivory tower snobs like yourself are always the last ones to see the oncoming train. I understand why it is you are so supportive of LL. They're thin-air breathers just like you.



Indeed. Most people when faced with a pure mess like this will simply leave and never say a word. I'm here for the show. It's always fun for me to watch the fanbois cheering in great, gulping gurgles as the ship goes down.



Yes. It does. It says you have very low expectations and are easily entertained.



Well, actually, now that you mention it, that's the OTHER reason I know shit when I see it.

*edited*

You know where to find it.

How can you muse about something that hasn't happened yet?

Aww, diddums gettums feewins hurt?

Look, bucko, I know as well as anyone how much of your self-image is derived from the belief that being here matters, your 'celebrity' or 'fame' here is *meaningful* and that LL is something other than a corporation out to make a buck, preferrably off of you.

If you can't handle the truth, I suggest you do yourself a favor and put me on ignore. Then, go build yourself a nice model of something and soothe yourself by chanting your little litany about how it all matters and means something until that nasty ol reality fades from mind.

editeditedit: no point in clogging up the thread with childish ad hominems

*clicks ignore, goes back to term paper*

this nastiness is really not necessary. If you're going to have ugly, hate-filled discussions, do it about something significant.

Champ, if that were the criteria, there would be no discussion here. You see, games rarely are significant, despite the insistence of some otherwise.

Sigh, another thread derailed by pettiness.

Oooh... OOOH! I didn't know we were playing "childish moronic exaggerations!" I wanna play too!

"The statement wasn't directed at you, per se, but at the trolls that seem to have permeated these boards (hi lordfly), that don't seem to do much except expound great literary works on why SL rocks, why it is succeeding, and why they still like it, and where LLab is doing right, why it will be a multi-billion dollar corporation in thirty seconds, and why this concept is destined to become the basis for a new religion. And especially why the Lindens are messengers of the divine, floating down from heaven on wings of gold."

You expected something different?

I enjoy it when this sort of thing happens. It makes it much easier to tell identify is too immature to bother wasting my time reading.