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Uma Bauhaus
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09-05-2006 22:12
We're all moving from SL forums to competing third-party forums. What I want to know is when can we move to a competing third-party virtual world? I personally think LL would welcome the change if their user base migrated. :D

So what's out there now? What's coming soon? I heard there was a distributed 3D world shown at the convention. Does anyone know anything about it?
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Cottonteil Muromachi
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09-05-2006 22:42
I guess Habbo Hotel or Puzzle Pirates might suit your personality much better.
Lordfly Digeridoo
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09-05-2006 22:48
From: Uma Bauhaus

So what's out there now? What's coming soon? I heard there was a distributed 3D world shown at the convention. Does anyone know anything about it?


Uh, if you're referring to SLCC, the only "other" program shown was Lindenworld, circa 2001.

As far as competition, there's Activeworlds (ancient technology, abandoned), There (social world, economically a mess, no creative freedom), The Sims Online (a game without any fun parts, on life support), Habbo Hotel (for the kiddies), Sociolotron (if you like rape), Seducity (if you like sex), Furcadia (if you like isometric furries), and... that's about all i can think of right now.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-05-2006 23:11
From: Cottonteil Muromachi
I guess Habbo Hotel or Puzzle Pirates might suit your personality much better.
That's what your father said while he was scarfing down his Spaghettios with a toothbrush.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-05-2006 23:14
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
As far as competition, there's Activeworlds (ancient technology, abandoned), There (social world, economically a mess, no creative freedom), The Sims Online (a game without any fun parts, on life support), Habbo Hotel (for the kiddies), Sociolotron (if you like rape), Seducity (if you like sex), Furcadia (if you like isometric furries), and... that's about all i can think of right now.
That's what I thought. This kind of customer service and mistreatment of the community could only take place in the presence of a competition vacuum. I for one will welcome with open arms the next big thing and squeal with delight as the competitor's forum welcomes me into its warm embrace. :D
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Glory Takashi
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09-05-2006 23:24
Well the truth of the matter is there isn't a mmorpg or social game out there with good customer service. Never has been probably never will be. They can take our millions of dollars but damn if they will spend a few hundred thousand taking care of those people paying them millions. Or listen to their desires for that matter. We own it we will do as we please is always the motto.
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Bobby Troughton
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09-05-2006 23:41
There is or was Cybertown. Havent checked it out for ages but it is probably the closest you can get.
Yiffy Yaffle
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09-05-2006 23:48
From: Uma Bauhaus
We're all moving from SL forums to competing third-party forums. What I want to know is when can we move to a competing third-party virtual world? I personally think LL would welcome the change if their user base migrated. :D

So what's out there now? What's coming soon? I heard there was a distributed 3D world shown at the convention. Does anyone know anything about it?

Theres always furcadia... No WAIT!!... *gunshot*
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Flavian Molinari
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09-05-2006 23:49
From: Glory Takashi
Well the truth of the matter is there isn't a mmorpg or social game out there with good customer service. Never has been probably never will be. They can take our millions of dollars but damn if they will spend a few hundred thousand taking care of those people paying them millions. Or listen to their desires for that matter. We own it we will do as we please is always the motto.


It all boils down to the bottom line. Money talks and customer service and eventually customers walk.
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mcgeeb Gupte
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09-06-2006 00:04
From: Bobby Troughton
There is or was Cybertown. Havent checked it out for ages but it is probably the closest you can get.


I used to play Cybertown many, many years ago. Though it seemed as if no one was signed on to actually chat with. Maybe a max of 100 or so people in the entire world.
Glory Takashi
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09-06-2006 00:20
From: Flavian Molinari
It all boils down to the bottom line. Money talks and customer service and eventually customers walk.



True in a sense but really enough suck up to them or plain just ride with the flow and don't complain that there is no lube that these companys never have to care and they know it.
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Damanios Thetan
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09-06-2006 00:34
Although, i i'm against the original OP's motivation for posting. Here's another:

Blaxxun

More like Activeworldsl; uses user based content, but with approval, separate servers/shards and allows teens.
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Selador Cellardoor
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09-06-2006 00:38
From: Uma Bauhaus
We're all moving from SL forums to competing third-party forums. What I want to know is when can we move to a competing third-party virtual world? I personally think LL would welcome the change if their user base migrated. :D

So what's out there now? What's coming soon? I heard there was a distributed 3D world shown at the convention. Does anyone know anything about it?


The only one I know of close to Second Life is Cybertown, the Blaxxun virtual world, although I don't know whether it's still going.

However, when I was there (over three years ago) it was a nightmare fascist state. Second Life seems to be heading in that direction, so if you want to see how things could be, give Cybertown a try.

You might find it interesting, because it has resident-run government and security forces, and is the reason I have always opposed self-government in Cybertown.
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Alazarin Mondrian
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09-06-2006 01:23
Dunno about Blaxxun. The avatars look a bit naff. However I like this idea: http://tinyurl.com/m8k8y

And this type of idea for offline building: http://tinyurl.com/qtqbv

How about LL taking this kind of approach for 3-rd party hosted sims?: http://tinyurl.com/qrw6x

Yep, comeptition *IS* good. It keeps people on their toes and helps products get developed in response to customer needs and such like. The only downside is that they seem to hit you up for cash at every turn. US$30 just to upload your own avatar? Hmmm... even if alot of people in SL spend that amount or more on their own av it's done after they get in the door.
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Siggy Romulus
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09-06-2006 02:13
From: Cottonteil Muromachi
I guess Habbo Hotel or Puzzle Pirates might suit your personality much better.


Ok - now THAT was funny :P
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Samia Perun
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09-06-2006 02:18
Why dont you perhaps make your own?

Imagine the fun you could have Uma! Competitions to see who could throw their toys out of the pram fastest, maybe events like Flaming Thread Destruction Derby.

All fun and games.
Pie Psaltery
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09-06-2006 05:56
There is also Moove which is allllllmost good.
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Brucas Bardeen
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09-06-2006 07:00
I don't know any other good SL alternatives where you are not always limited to a human(can also be a robot, alien, whatever) but I guess this opensource metaverse project I ran across may be a good one for me but it's not quite active and might become vaporware.

However, feature wise especially for avatar, nothing really beats secondlife because you don't always have to be a human avatar.
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09-06-2006 07:07
The Croquet Project is available to anyone, is open source, and you can host it yourself. I'm unaware of any current "worlds" though.
Norman Desmoulins
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09-06-2006 07:08
Croquet sounds deeply interesting to me... unfortunately it wasn't quite as cool to actually run. Promising though.
Norman Desmoulins
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09-06-2006 07:08
From: Csven Concord
The Croquet Project is available to anyone, is open source, and you can host it yourself. I'm unaware of any current "worlds" though.


Hehe :)
Cindy Claveau
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09-06-2006 07:10
From: Uma Bauhaus
That's what I thought. This kind of customer service and mistreatment of the community could only take place in the presence of a competition vacuum. I for one will welcome with open arms the next big thing and squeal with delight as the competitor's forum welcomes me into its warm embrace.

I will too, but I also know from experience that a year into it, we will be facing the exact same issues with corporate management vs customer service. I haven't had an online experience yet that didn't go through it.
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Uma Bauhaus
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09-06-2006 07:12
From: Cindy Claveau
I will too, but I also know from experience that a year into it, we will be facing the exact same issues with corporate management vs customer service. I haven't had an online experience yet that didn't go through it.
Fascinating. What is it about these games that leads to such poor customer service?
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Lupus Delacroix
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09-06-2006 07:31
From: Uma Bauhaus
Fascinating. What is it about these games that leads to such poor customer service?


They do not think of themselves as customer service organizations, they think of themselves as developers/game makers.

Therin lies the rub.
Luciftias Neurocam
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09-06-2006 07:50
From: Uma Bauhaus
That's what I thought. This kind of customer service and mistreatment of the community could only take place in the presence of a competition vacuum. I for one will welcome with open arms the next big thing and squeal with delight as the competitor's forum welcomes me into its warm embrace so I can troll there with impunity :D



hmmm....
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