Do we need Push?

You can't get away with a stunt like that, Siobhan.
We'll find you

Then don't fly over that land. Problem solved. It's not like you are hurt by it. Slightly inconvenienced, maybe.



That's cool. I look at it kinda like combat / damage sims. You go there, you put yourself at risk of getting hit / "killed" (with NO penalty, except having to TP back home and come back). It's easy enough to avoid places which have damage/push turned on. Banning people is a hassle if you even remotely try to be fair about it.



*shrug* I think they have the right basic idea, though the system is rather simplistic at this point. If people want rules-enforced RP/combat areas, let 'em. If someone doesn't want to participate, that someone doesn't have to go to those areas.



*shrug* I was a newbie (hell, still am, really). I figured out how to thwart most of the silliness on my own. I think it is a matter of education. If newbies know how they are empowered to thwart it via a few minor actions, then I think they will have a much more enjoyable experience. But, like you said, that's just me. Lots off newbs come here hoping to have a good new player experience until Mr. Racist Griefer shows up spouting obscenities and slurs at everyone in the welcome area while the poor mentors look on in angst, powerless to do anything about it. One isn't necessarily any worse than the other, but in both cases, there are tools and tactics available to everyone to deal with it.



Aye, I wasn't arguing against your desire for the ability to do that, with the exception of leaving it up to the option of the landowner whether or not he/she could override it, just like with damage as it is now.

I agree this is hilarious. I dont care if SL gets overrun by crazy bastards scripting their brains out with malicious intent. Its all too damned funny to make me angry. Ok crashing a server make me want to kill puppies but other than that its like he says.. I got frikkin attacked with a cruise missile for absolutely no reason blew me 2-3 sims away and I COULD NOT STOP LAUGHING. get a sense of humor people. any programmer knows the funnest part of programming is when u tweak on variable for a few minutes and watch the poor computer do backflips while singing the star spangled banner.

I recently made my first truly understanded by myself script for moving my lil pet I call the "orb of doom" (a silly little sphere) well once I FINALLY figured out looping llMoveToTarget and could make it bounce back and forth at high speeds across a small pos.x = 5 to pos.x = 50 little strip on my land... i thought.. hey... i can take off phantom now... so i do... now its making clouds where it smacks the ground COOL!! LOL... now i decide to jump in front of it... WHOAA shot me across my neighbors land and into a swimming pool WHEEEe... ok now its like 3am and I've managed to editgrab the damn thing and alter the script a bit... made it a bit faster and reset it... turned my land to unsafe... sit on it..hehehe this is gonna rock.... touch it to set it off... bah... it wont kill me.... stood up ... WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE.... ok fun but i wanna see some blood... set my home to a few meters away safe distance... hrmm.. i editgrab it again.. wonder what happens when i wear it? ...AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH.... after dying about 50 times i manage to detach the orb of doom. I dont care who ya are.. THAT SHIT IS FUN!

To OP and ppl like him... I just got here.. please stop picking away at it or we will all be playing WoW again (BOooooorrring!!). I had hoped I had found a real virtual world without the painful limits the rest of the MMO worlds suffer from and so far it has been w/ a few limits.. I understand the need to preserve the paying customers experience... crashing servers is an assmunch thing to do... but witchhunting and ARing everyone who insults you or smacks you upside the head or floods ur land with 1000's of green zombie cubes (i love that story tell it again grampa) is not the answer.

Tolerance Purchases Freedom,
Neurosis

i just went to another post and had to come back to ask... I hear alot about you guys getting bullied around.. I fly all over the place... I talk to everyone i see... no one has ever made my game unenjoyable even the few times i had got smacked around... the question comes to this... what are you people doing to piss these guys off so badly?

I'm wondering the same. I've run into maybe 2 griefers, and when they pushed I pushed back harder.

Honestly I've never really been pushed that many times, in fact I've only been hit with push ONCE in a non combat area where I didn't say "Sure go ahead, test it", the grief item that gets me the most is snooping.

Watching the efforts of some guy in a darth vader costume try to peep into my house yesterday as I filled the entire area with very thick smoke was amusing however. Me and the girl have fairly powerful PC's, so I just kept dumping particle effects till he got the idea =) as his computer crawled to a halt.

Griefers don't bother me. I just AR 'em and move on. Or in one case, yank the seat out from under them, AR them and move on.. although it was kinda hard to type because I was laughing so hard. Never seen a greifer that was that confused by the turn of events.

Do I think push should be disabled? No. There are a lot of useful things that one can do with push.

My diving boards use push - so does the diving block - so do trampolines - so do a lot of other things you might not realize.

BRAVO! This is what I'm talking about.. People Fight their own fights and stop running crying to tell the admins. I mean ok if someone is totally destroying your game and you literally cannot play because of it.. thats understandable.. but annoyances, cmon... people annoy each other.... thats what we do. Its just like the guy said about scriptkiddies on the net... full disclosure helps everyone. When SL guns are outlawed... only SL outlaws will have SL guns.

as far as the posts about being able to set certain restrictions on your own land disabling push (or anything else for that matter) I'm all for it. Its your land you should be able to do anything you like with it. Hell disable gravity and time for all I care. Might be fun.

Neurosis

*thinks about the posibilities of a rubber push wall scripted room and no gravity....

ooooh fun!

You know, I've found that the people who complain the most about people "tattling" are usually the ones who are doing something anti-social that they shouldn't.

"people annoy each other.... thats what we do"

No, that's what spoiled children do. Adults leave each-other the hell alone. Not everybody wants to do the same things that you do. Not everyone wants to be shot or whatever, they just want to be left the hell *alone*. If people are too immature to leave other people the hell alone, then they *should* be suspended or banned.

In high school, if someone takes to walking up behind me and smacking me in the back of the head whenever they see me, I'm likely to get told to deal with it myself, and likely get told not to be a "tattle-tale".

Now frankly, I don't like being smacked in the back of the head by people I don't know for no reason. Fortunately though I'm an adult and no longer in highs chool, and as an adult I'm presumed to have the right not to be smacked in the back of the head. If I object to it as an adult, no one is going to say "don't tattle" or "deal with it yourself". In the real, adult world, smacking strangers in the back of the head is assault, and you can go to jail for it.

Thus as an *adult* I can go shopping, sit down to lunch, see a movie, go for a walk etc. without having to wory that some maladjusted prick is likely to smack me in the head just because they feel like it.

The moral to this story is, that you're in the *adult* world in SL, and some people don't want to play with you and if you persist in doing the virtual equivelent of smacking people in the head, you're going to continue to get AR'd and quite possible eventually banned and I think that this is a *good* thing.