Stolen content on the teen grid?

Looking at these pictures, it seems to me the entire idea of a teen grid is a REALLY BAD ONE.

why have it at all?

They are not only stealing stuff, but some of those "kids" on the teen grid are not even teens they are ten or twelve years old from what I hear. How is it a good thing to be responsible for providing a service where ten year olds can dress up slutty and have mock sex with other ten year olds?

I know there are different opinions on mores and morals and such, but would you buy into a company that had as one of its features that it allowed this kind of thing? What about the liability? How long before some little girl gets enticed into some RL bad situation by someone on the teen grid and the parent sues the pants off of LL?

I would not personally agree with any child of mine participating in this kind of environment unsupervised, but whether you would or not, it's just bad business. What compelling reason is there for the existence of the TG given the huge possible liability? what kind of company plan envisions getting involved in something that has little to no upside and a huge possible downside?

Just to balance it all a bit.
Happy teengrid stories about youth being taught to be community leaders and responsible adults. http://www.holymeatballs.org/

Its the way technology works. No matter how nice the creators visions for something, it will always be twisted into something nobody ever expected. Look at the amount of pr0n on the internet today? Bet they wouldn't have thought of THAT in the early 90's...

It seems that the problem of keeping things 'appropriate' for the teen rating of Sims Online was what prevented EA from following through on Will Wright's dream of custom content for TSO.

Yet LL seem quite happy with the concept on Second Life on the teen grid.

The question is... which is the wiser option?

Unfortunately, if there is a major incident and SL is forced to close down because of a massive class action lawsuit, the teen grid players probably won't care because they still have their X-Box's and Playstations to play with - it's the adult grid that will suffer much more.

We pay to play - no doubt most on the teen grid are just on mummy or daddy's credit card.

The more I think about it, the more I think the teen grid is a bad idea.

Lewis

Has any one every considered that .. part of this may be a result of the online shop

http://slboutique.com/

i think this also has to be considered if there it options for teens to get this on there side too .... ? they could as easliy go there and buy there stuff ... Which i think is a down side beacuse of all the adult content on that page ... i think this also needs to be adressed as well ... For the Designers and for parents too ... i beleieve if there is acess .. it should be stopped .. and a teen option of this web page be made ..... As well as slexchange as well there should be blocking styems there too ..

What is your thoughts on this .... ???

VV

this is for the protection of every body too

Venus, transfered teens where able to buy from those sites in the first month but i believe that has been closed off now. New teens on teengrid are not able to signup to those sites, because you need to go to a inworld terminal to link your account to your avatar.

i didnt know ... thanks ... Fran

This is totally possible as a source for the stuff. The trouble is though it's not a matter of how it's done, this is just one of many ways. Linden Lab has several times allowed a teen to move to the teen grid with all their adult content intact. There are also spies and infiltrators, unscrupulous main grid sellers with alts, and scads and scads of idiot parents who merely give their kids the adult stuff anyway.

There are so many ways for adult material to slip onto the teen grid and so many ways for other material to be stolen and resold on the teen grid that it's not worth investigating the "how" at all.

If one was to be jaded, (who me?) you could look at the recent allowing of teens to come back onto the main grid as a sort of solution for their "teen grid problem." The one's causing the illegal and "adult" problems on the teen grid will obviously much prefer to be on the main grid. Now they can be.

This will make the teen grid the repository of responsible teens and parent who are responsible to their teens only. All the sex maniacs and griefers will come over to the main grid.

End result:

- LL looks good because it seems like they are not allowing minors on the main grid.
- The teen grid becomes all squeaky clean and positive for that next magazine article.

The main grid will once again become rife with minors, but you won't be able to prove it. They will just have a nudge-nudge wink-wink "' ask don't tell" policy about it and thus the problem will be out of their hair.

It's quite interesting that so many adults seem to know about whats going on in the teen grid and at the same time cry about the crossover. Keeping the teens and adults apart in circumstances where they all live under one roof and maybe even share a computer is a laugh.

If I had kids I would worry more about the adult presence in kiddieland rather than cry over whether I was paid the few cents for an item of clothing that shows up in the teen grid.

My question is, how do all of you know whats actually going on and being sold in the teen grid? Perhaps the pics posted on snapzilla were actually taken in the adult grid, or were screenshots from mommy's computer. I think the adults need to get out of the teen grid totally no matter how curious you are or worried about losing a few cents in sales.

I wonder how many parents are having their "kids" signed up as teen members and are really selling in the teen grid under that pretense.

I for one have a teen on the teen grid. She's been there a long time and I monitor her activities by walking by her computer, sitting down beside her, talking to her.

Teens know what is being sold at slboutique and slexchange even tho they can't buy from either site. They see what is being offered by other teens for sale and some recognize main grid content. Teens can d/l pictures they take to their computer and upload them to snapzilla and other places to show off the SL world.

They are a savvy group of kids and unfortunately, if they aren't taught that there are consequences for stealing other peoples textures now, what will they be like when they do turn 18 and bring their goods here? Wait, they WILL turn 18 one day and perhaps they can face the people they ripped off and be held accountable then.

Our children are growing up so well

Uhm, i don't know exactly how Snapzilla determines what pics comes from the teengrid, probably a different hostname or something. Because pics that are from the teengrid are classified as such on snapzilla, you can even sort them on only teengrid pictures.
http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/snapshots.aspx?type=teen

There seems no longer a point to the teen grid at all. Robin posted the very odd answer that they are more concerned about adults on the teen grid than about teens getting on the adult grid, but it is the same damn thing. With no age verification on either side (yes, there is no age verification to get on the teen grid either, just your word and the hopes that adults will be outed by teens), it really doesn't matter anymore. Removing any sort of age check whatsoever is one of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen LL make.

The teen grid residents send their images to a different address. I also have a list of teen grid sims which I try to keep as current, and periodically run a batch process to catch any pictures that came through other addresses. I actually never checked if the teen grid images have something in their host name that would help - I highly doubt it though, since ultimately it is the same grid so most likely the exact same postcard server.

LMAO @ Cristiano. You wins teh Intarnets!!1! Announcing IP theft of the the teen grid like it's news. LOL!

Robert Scoble beat you to the scoop. (I've known about it since, uh, Blue Linden, I think, showed me pictures, but I guess I never said anything. *kicks search*)

Those d@mn kids and their Interweb pirating. Master P.'s son needs a French Polynesian island, and this isn't helping him!